Robert Novak dead at 78

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Harvey

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1

Isn't mange some kind of disease?

Yeah. I edited my post, but it looks like I needed to get my "a" in gear.

And, buh-bye Mr. Novak. You'll not be missed, but RIP anyway.

+1
 

TheSlamma

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: jacko49
to ZeGermans---was Joseph Goebbels a relative of yours? then i understand your comment:disgust:
Curious about the reference to goebbels.

He thinks he's cool cause he named someone else in the Nazi party besides Hitler.
 

Perknose

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
He was a good voice for the conservative movement.

I emphatically disagree, but I also see no reason to speak further ill of the dead. For better or worse, the man rose to a prominence in his chosen profession few of us here can ever hope to match.
 

Lemon law

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Regardless if you are saying ding dong the witch is dead or not, Robert Novak had somewhat of a track record of protecting his sources.
And without that track record, few journalistic careers stand any test of time.

And what ever was locked in the Novak memory banks is dead and unreadable, but whatever remains of paper records may enjoy a renaissance of public access. And maybe answer the question, was Robert Novak a journalists or a paid GOP shill? Or dare we hope, leave written records that show various figures perjured themselves in their denials about outing a CIA agent.

I always prefer to be an optimist about such opportunities to advance understanding regarding past history.
 

jacko49

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: jacko49
to ZeGermans---was Joseph Goebbels a relative of yours? then i understand your comment:disgust:
Curious about the reference to goebbels.

...

Goebbels used modern propaganda techniques to psychologically prepare the German people for aggressive war and the annihilation of civilian populations. Among other propaganda devices, he accused many of Germany's ethnic and national minorities (such as the Poles, the Jews, the French) of trying to destroy Germany, claiming that Germany's belligerent actions were taken in self-defense.

...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels

You're crediting ze with all that with that one-liner? Easily impressed?

It seems that you take considerable time between posts - why not this one?

ze called me your name-but his name is Koebel-so it rimes well with goebbles(for denying
the truth(in my opinion)so i don't have time to call on you,every time you say stupid stuff which isn't concern your brain.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
He was a good voice for the conservative movement.

I emphatically disagree, but I also see no reason to speak further ill of the dead. For better or worse, the man rose to a prominence in his chosen profession few of us here can ever hope to match.

Well put so I'll just say +1
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: jacko49
ze called me your name-but his name is Koebel-so it rimes well with goebbles(for denying
the truth(in my opinion)so i don't have time to call on you,every time you say stupid stuff which isn't concern your brain.

 

OCGuy

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The correct way to respond in a death thread when you disagree with someone politically:

Originally posted by: Harvey

And, buh-bye Mr. Novak. You'll not be missed, but RIP anyway.

+1

Originally posted by: Perknose

I emphatically disagree, but I also see no reason to speak further ill of the dead. For better or worse, the man rose to a prominence in his chosen profession few of us here can ever hope to match.


The trolling d-bag way:


Originally posted by: Imdoingmybesttogetbanned
later you piece of shit

 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: jacko49
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: jacko49
to ZeGermans---was Joseph Goebbels a relative of yours? then i understand your comment:disgust:
Curious about the reference to goebbels.

...

Goebbels used modern propaganda techniques to psychologically prepare the German people for aggressive war and the annihilation of civilian populations. Among other propaganda devices, he accused many of Germany's ethnic and national minorities (such as the Poles, the Jews, the French) of trying to destroy Germany, claiming that Germany's belligerent actions were taken in self-defense.

...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels

You're crediting ze with all that with that one-liner? Easily impressed?

It seems that you take considerable time between posts - why not this one?

ze called me your name-but his name is Koebel-so it rimes well with goebbles(for denying
the truth(in my opinion)so i don't have time to call on you,every time you say stupid stuff which isn't concern your brain.
This confounds both me and google translate. Looks like I stepped in it big time.

Never mind.
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: OCguy
The correct way to respond in a death thread when you disagree with someone politically:

Originally posted by: Harvey

And, buh-bye Mr. Novak. You'll not be missed, but RIP anyway.

+1

Originally posted by: Perknose

I emphatically disagree, but I also see no reason to speak further ill of the dead. For better or worse, the man rose to a prominence in his chosen profession few of us here can ever hope to match.


The trolling d-bag way:


Originally posted by: Imdoingmybesttogetbanned
later you piece of shit
:laugh::laugh::laugh: The ocguy book of manners and etiquette. The mother of all non sequiturs.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: ProfJohn

He was a good voice for the conservative movement.

In other words, a mouthpiece for war criminals and social tards.

What? No lifted macro?

No "macro" required, but "lifted" from what? My own previous posts? :roll:

And the best you can manage is a personal attack? You must be one of those to who spent years on these forums pimping for the war criminals and social tards. :shocked:

"lifted" from some other website. But that's severely off topic as was the comment by you I quoted.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
He was a good voice for the conservative movement.

I emphatically disagree, but I also see no reason to speak further ill of the dead. For better or worse, the man rose to a prominence in his chosen profession few of us here can ever hope to match.
Well said.


 

kage69

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Buckley was a good voice for the conservative movement, Novak was for the most part a shill who occasionally broke rank with the party faithful, but made a name for himself by being an abrasive arsehole. I hope he was a better friend and father than he was a journalist, as his involvement in the Plame affair for instance was hardly honorable or praiseworthy. I won't shed any tears over him, but I would offer my sympathy and condolences to his family.

Damn. I had no idea he was that old. He aged pretty well - must have been all that piss and vinegar.

Heh, a neighbor of mine said the exact same thing earlier this afternoon. I'd have to agree.



 

Phokus

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I'll steal a quote from Christopher Hitchen's when he learned of Jerry Falwell's passing:

"If you gave Novak an enema, he could be buried in a matchbox"
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: Phokus
I'll steal a quote from Christopher Hitchen's when he learned of Jerry Falwell's passing:

"If you gave Novak an enema, he could be buried in a matchbox"
Ouch.

With falwell, there would have been a vacuum.
 

Phokus

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Phokus
I'll steal a quote from Christopher Hitchen's when he learned of Jerry Falwell's passing:

"If you gave Novak an enema, he could be buried in a matchbox"
Ouch.

With falwell, there would have been a vacuum.

Also, to underscore what an unrepentant and lying piece of shit robert novak was:

Q: Let's talk about the Valerie Plame affair, which caused you so much grief. If you had it to do over again, would you reveal who she was?

A: If you read my book, you find a certain ambivalence there. Journalistically, I thought it was an important story because it explained why the CIA would send Joe Wilson--a former Clinton White House aide with no track record in intelligence and no experience in Niger--on a fact-finding mission to Africa. From a personal point of view, I said in the book I probably should have ignored what I'd been told about Mrs. Wilson.

Now I'm much less ambivalent. I'd go full speed ahead because of the hateful and beastly way in which my left-wing critics in the press and Congress tried to make a political affair out of it and tried to ruin me. My response now is this: The hell with you. They didn't ruin me. I have my faith, my family, and a good life. A lot of people love me--or like me. So they failed. I would do the same thing over again because I don't think I hurt Valerie Plame whatsoever.

Joe Wilson's resume from 1976 to 1988:

Diplomatic postings and government positions:

* 1976?1978: General Services Officer, Niamey, Niger
* 1978?1979: Administrative Office, Lomé, Togo
* 1979?1981: Administrative Officer, U.S. State Department, Washington, D.C.
* 1981?1982: Administrative Officer, Pretoria, South Africa
* 1982?1985: Deputy Chief of Mission (DCM), Bujumbura, Burundi
* 1985?1986: Congressional Fellow, offices of Senator Al Gore and Representative Tom Foley
* 1986?1988: DCM, Brazzaville, Republic of the Congo

nearly 12 years working for the government in africa, 3 of which were in niger
 

marincounty

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My condolences to his family. I liked Bob Novak on Crossfire with Paul Begala and James Carville. He was one of the rare smart conservatives who could actually debate issues.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: ProfJohn

He was a good voice for the conservative movement.

In other words, a mouthpiece for war criminals and social tards.

What? No lifted macro?

No "macro" required, but "lifted" from what? My own previous posts? :roll:

And the best you can manage is a personal attack? You must be one of those to who spent years on these forums pimping for the war criminals and social tards. :shocked:

"lifted" from some other website. But that's severely off topic as was the comment by you I quoted.

My comment was about Robert Novak, who was an apologist tool for the Bushwhackos crimes against the American people and a participant in their treaon in outing Valerie Plame as a covert CIA operative.

I'll ask you to apologize for accusing me of "lifting" anything or prove it. If you can't do one or the other, you prove yourself to be just one more brainless, lying Bushwhacko sycophant. :frown:
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: ProfJohn

He was a good voice for the conservative movement.

In other words, a mouthpiece for war criminals and social tards.

What? No lifted macro?

No "macro" required, but "lifted" from what? My own previous posts? :roll:

And the best you can manage is a personal attack? You must be one of those to who spent years on these forums pimping for the war criminals and social tards. :shocked:

"lifted" from some other website. But that's severely off topic as was the comment by you I quoted.

My comment was about Robert Novak, who was an apologist tool for the Bushwhackos crimes against the American people and a participant in their treaon in outing Valerie Plame as a covert CIA operative.

I'll ask you to apologize for accusing me of "lifting" anything or prove it. If you can't do one or the other, you prove yourself to be just one more brainless, lying Bushwhacko sycophant. :frown:

Awww.... couldn't stand the PM conversation so now you push your crap in this thread? Sorry - I'm not going to bite on your troll. Please try to keep this thread about Novak.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Awww.... couldn't stand the PM conversation so now you push your crap in this thread? Sorry - I'm not going to bite on your troll. Please try to keep this thread about Novak.

I was doing that until you called me out as having "lifted" material "from some other website."

Call me for plagarism, and I'll ask you to prove it... or you can just admit that I didn't, and we can get back to Robert Novak, dirtbag Bushwhacko mouthpiece that he was.
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: sapiens74
RIP Bob


I'll never forget the Crossfire you lost your fake tooth, It may have been a bridge or something, it looked like it was on your tongue and you kept arguing with Begala

Funny stuff

lol.

RIP bob. I'll never forget that time you got mad and got up and left like a 5 year old. Good times.

RIP bob. I'll always remember the time when you stood up in the middle of a debate, whispered, "I am the night," then threw your cape over your head and changed into a bat and flew away..

/good times.....
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
He was a good voice for the conservative movement.

I emphatically disagree, but I also see no reason to speak further ill of the dead. For better or worse, the man rose to a prominence in his chosen profession few of us here can ever hope to match.

Pretty much. He was a much better spokesperson than the likes of O'Reilly/Rush/Others, being quite reasonable in comparison, but was still mostly just a talking head and not an Intellectual.

Always found him entertaining on Crossfire, where he generally asked good and reasonable questions without resorting to complete nonsense that pervades Fox News and the like. Certainly there were theatrics, but that was just part of what Crossfire was all about.
 
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