Robert Novak dead at 78

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Holy shit...I can't believe the hatred inside some 'people' here...the depravity of man has no bounds.

The only "hatred" and "depravity" I see is the disdain for the "conservative movement".

Excuse me while a take a shit in memory of one down and many more to go. :beer:

 

[Lemon law]

Well that is certainly a Robert Novak redeeming quality, no matter how much of a rascal he was, he was less of a rascal that a few others.

But not to be a partisan tool here, the same can be said about many of our dear departed. So why single out just Novak?

But should that be the measure of a public life, a public plebiscite on the RIP vs GDR question.

As some say rest in peace and some say good damn riddance.

 

[Druidx]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Awww.... couldn't stand the PM conversation so now you push your crap in this thread? Sorry - I'm not going to bite on your troll. Please try to keep this thread about Novak.

I was doing that until you called me out as having "lifted" material "from some other website."

Call me for plagarism, and I'll ask you to prove it... or you can just admit that I didn't, and we can get back to Robert Novak, dirtbag Bushwhacko mouthpiece that he was.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think he might be referring to this, taken from the
Franken + T. Boone Pickens = Fireworks topic

Originally posted by: Druidx

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Gee, once again Harvey derails a topic with his Bush macros. Can we get a moderator to clean this thread up like they do in other threads where people go blatently off-topic and disrupt the OP's topic?

*snip*
2. I doubt that you're intellectually capable of writing any such "Obama macro," including names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise.

It doesn't require any special intellect to copy an paste stuff from www.americanprogress.org
Gee... is it just me or does all those quotes look familiar?

Of course, you did take the time to change the order of the quotes. I can only assume that is your idea of making it your own.
Congratulations. Do you want a cookie?

If there is anything else I can help you with, please let me know.
No doubt in Harvery's eyes Mr. Novack was just another member of Bush's Criminal Cabal of Blah Blah Blah..... Yadda Yadda Yadda....
I'm sure most of you can recite it by heart after seeing it 100+ times. Harvey is so proud of his cut an paste work, he tries to spam it into every topic possible.
:roll:

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Druidx

Not in this thread please. I know harvey is trying to get someone to bite - don't give him that in this thread. It's about the passing of Novak - not harvey blustering about "plagiarism".

 

[dennilfloss]

He may have become a neocon parody of himself in recent years but Novak was fun to watch and came across as quite knowledgeable if somewhat opiniated on Crossfire during the mid80s facing Tom Braden.

RIP.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Holy shit...I can't believe the hatred inside some 'people' here...the depravity of man has no bounds.

The only "hatred" and "depravity" I see is the disdain for the "conservative movement".

Excuse me while a take a shit in memory of one down and many more to go. :beer:

Jeebus, man. I wish you'd quit being so obtuse about how you really feel...

It's not nice to still make fun of the cons when their movement is swirling around the bowl.

 

[spikespiegal]

He was a much better spokesperson than the likes of O'Reilly/Rush/Others, being quite reasonable in comparison, but was still mostly just a talking head and not an Intellectual.

+1,000

Not quite sure why anybody ever took Novak seriously. He was mostly a reactionary conservative who got nasty when cornered by smarter liberals and had little relevant to stay when the discussion strayed from Washington politics. Even Cal Thomas can branch away from politics and stay relevant -somewhat. IMHO, George Will is one of the few right wing columnists that strays the least from a logical discourse.

I know everybody hates Rush, but at least he layers his arguements better than most of the rest.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Holy shit...I can't believe the hatred inside some 'people' here...the depravity of man has no bounds.

Their hated will turn on them in the end, the blood they seek will be their own.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
And, buh-bye Mr. Novak. You'll not be missed, but RIP anyway.

This conveys my sentiment about the man, however I don't wish ill of the dead.

RIP

 

[sportage]

Naw... he's ok.
Just remove that bug up his ass, and the stake from his heart. Heart?
Hey Bob... hows the heat down there???

 

[fallout man]

Originally posted by: sportage

Hey Bob... hows the heat down there???

I really wonder if someone of Bob's caliber will pass the Lord's metric for entrance. What commandments did he break? There's always a way to slither by, and I'm sure that there's a sewer system leading out of heaven--just out of sight of the man at the pearly gates.

 

[Schadenfroh]

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Druidx

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Awww.... couldn't stand the PM conversation so now you push your crap in this thread? Sorry - I'm not going to bite on your troll. Please try to keep this thread about Novak.

I was doing that until you called me out as having "lifted" material "from some other website."

Call me for plagarism, and I'll ask you to prove it... or you can just admit that I didn't, and we can get back to Robert Novak, dirtbag Bushwhacko mouthpiece that he was.

Maybe I'm wrong but I think he might be referring to this, taken from the
Franken + T. Boone Pickens = Fireworks topic

Originally posted by: Druidx

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Gee, once again Harvey derails a topic with his Bush macros. Can we get a moderator to clean this thread up like they do in other threads where people go blatently off-topic and disrupt the OP's topic?

*snip*
2. I doubt that you're intellectually capable of writing any such "Obama macro," including names, dates, statutory citations and quotes from credible sources to prove whatever allegations you think you can raise.

It doesn't require any special intellect to copy an paste stuff from www.americanprogress.org
Gee... is it just me or does all those quotes look familiar?

Of course, you did take the time to change the order of the quotes. I can only assume that is your idea of making it your own.
Congratulations. Do you want a cookie?

To let you know how really full of shit you are that I plagarized anything:

1. The cited page on americanprogress.org is a factual list of quotes. I did not copy any creative commentary about the facts on the page. Copyright laws do not apply to factual data anymore than patent laws apply to a natural element like copper.

2. You were in such a hurry to throw shit at me that you didn't do your homework and read the page on americanprogress.org to compare it to my list of quotes, or you would have noticed that my list contains some of the same quotes along with others not on their list, and in places, I include complete quotes where they only provide shortened versions of the same statements.

My list is compiled from many sources, and every one of them that quotes those statements accurately will say exactly the same thing. The only way I could be wrong would be to misquote them. None of them is plagarizing anyone else by reciting the same facts, and public statements by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of that criminal gang are not protected. They are in the public domain.

In the same thread, I also quoted an entire article WITH attribution and WITH a direct link to the source. I usually truncate articles, but this one was rich in info top to bottom. I posted it as news for public discussion, which is within the scope of "fair use."

I've got both patents and copyrights. I've got far more respect for the intellectual property of others than that, and you are dead ass wrong to refer to the same bogus charge in yet another thread.

No doubt in Harvery's eyes Mr. Novack was just another member of Bush's Criminal Cabal of Blah Blah Blah..... Yadda Yadda Yadda....

You must mean that Novak was somehow involved with your mercifully EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal gang of traitors, murderers, torturers and war criminals in committing TREASON.

George W. Bush told the American people that Saddam was trying to buy weapons grade uranium in Niger.

Ambassador Joseph Wilson, a man with decades of diplomatic experience in Niger, went there to track down the truth behind that statement. On his return, Ambassador Wilson published an article refuting the administration's big lie.

Robert Novak published a hit column attempting to discredit Wilson and revealing that it was involved with his wife, Valerie Plame's job with the CIA as a specialist in nuclear proliferation and who is also well known and accepted under her CIA cover.

Novak blew her cover. In doing so, he blew her usefulness to the defense interests of the United States of America and all of her years of experience and all the time, money and other resources poured into making her such an asset to the nation. He also risked blowing the covers of every person known to have associated with her in various countries.

The act of publishing the column was a direct assault on the defense interests of the United States of America.

United States Constitution, Article III Section 3 delineates treason as follows:
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Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

We have plenty of "giving them Aid and Comfort," and we have a whole lot more than two witnesses.

Why did Novak do this? At whose behest? We know that, too. What does that make those who commissioned Novak's hit column? :Q

Originally posted by: Druidx

I'm sure most of you can recite it by heart after seeing it 100+ times. Harvey is so proud of his cut an paste work, he tries to spam it into every topic possible.
:roll:

WOW! THANKS!!! That's the whole idea. Those "macros" list the Bushwhackos' crimes including credible links to names, dates, facts, legal citations and more. Why should I rewrite them? Facts don't change. People's awareness of them does.

I don't even have to post them that much, anymore. All I have to do is refer to them, and as you said, everyone already knows what they say, and they remember those facts.

I WIN! :laugh: :sun: :music:

As you may have figured out, I took the time to assemble this post, and I've included some new info. That means I've got a whole new text file to copy as it applies to the right wingnuts' endless repetition of the same lies.

Thanks again. :beer: :thumbsup:

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Druidx

Not in this thread please. I know harvey is trying to get someone to bite - don't give him that in this thread. It's about the passing of Novak - not harvey blustering about "plagiarism".

Too late. :laugh:

 

[ZeGermans]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Druidx

Not in this thread please. I know harvey is trying to get someone to bite - don't give him that in this thread. It's about the passing of Novak - not harvey blustering about "plagiarism".

He was an immeasurably worse person than the hundreds of people who died today because of various American policies so why should we talk about him.


Who here likes corndogs?

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

He was a good voice for the conservative movement.

In other words, a mouthpiece for war criminals and social tards.

No, Bill Moyers is still alive.

BTW 35,751 Americans died during Johnson's term that he won in the 1964 election. Moyers was one of the principle architects of Johnson's campaign that year. Which means that Moyers is responsible for 10 times the number of dead Americans as Bush or anyone who served with or under him.

Of course when Moyers dies everyone will ignore his role in helping Johnson get elected and expand the Vietnam War and instead talk about what a great guy he was etc etc

 

[Daaavo]

My favorite Crossfire.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: Daaavo
My favorite Crossfire.

thats awesome lol.

Heres my favorite. Sorry no Robert Novak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE

 

[Taejin]

who is robert novak?

/care

 

[Druidx]

Originally posted by: Daaavo
My favorite Crossfire.

I wonder if they were surprised by Zappa?

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Daaavo
My favorite Crossfire.

Thanks. So much material in that video. The republican use of intimidation and innuendo, of which mr. novak was a consummate practitioner, is still being used today and being refined even further.

Frank's predictions more or less are coming true.

 

[Druidx]

Originally posted by: Harvey
To let you know how really full of shit you are that I plagarized anything:

Dear Harvey the Rabbit, please show me where I ever said you plagiarized anything, those are your words not mine. You claimed your Criminal cabal post was your own work, while insulting someone else saying they were to stupid to write something similar.
I only pointed out one of the sites you copied "your so called work" from and how funny it was that you took the time to reverse the order of the quotes you copied.

BTW, while you pat yourself on the back because your post is so well known, just remember so are many of the video's on failblog.org. People don't remember your Bush Bot because of your writing style or the information in it. People remember it because you spam it into every possible topic you can regardless of how off topic it is. I can't decide which is worse, you for thinking it matters or that you're continually allowed to do it.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Druidx

Originally posted by: Daaavo
My favorite Crossfire.

I wonder if they were surprised by Zappa?

RIP Frank Zappa.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

He was a good voice for the conservative movement.

In other words, a mouthpiece for war criminals and social tards.

No, Bill Moyers is still alive.

BTW 35,751 Americans died during Johnson's term that he won in the 1964 election. Moyers was one of the principle architects of Johnson's campaign that year. Which means that Moyers is responsible for 10 times the number of dead Americans as Bush or anyone who served with or under him.

Thanks for the lies. That's what you always do, and you do it so often.

To put Moyers' work for the Johnson administration in perspective:

During the Kennedy Administration, Moyers was first appointed as associate director of public affairs for the newly created Peace Corps in 1961. He served as Deputy Director from 1962-63. When Lyndon B. Johnson took office after the Kennedy assassination, Moyers became a special assistant to Johnson, serving from 1963?1967. He played a key role in organizing and supervising the 1964 Great Society legislative task forces and was a principal architect of Johnson's 1964 presidential campaign. Moyers acted as the President's informal chief of staff from October 1964 until 1966. From July 1965 to February 1967, he also served as White House Press Secretary.

As you said, he was "an architect" of Johnson's campaign. Moyers' most significant work under Kennedy and Johnson, was with the Peace Corps and Johnson's "Great Society" legislation and later, as Press Secretary. However, that doesn't make him responsible for Johnson's actions as President regarding the war in Vietnam. Your attempt to link him to that was is yet another of your typical diversions, distractions and outright lies.

So is your lame attempt to justify the criminality of your thankfully EX-Traitor In Chief and his criminal cabal of traitors, murderers, tortureres, war criminals, war profiteers and general incompetents. If you start with the premise that American involvemet in Vietnam was wrong, immoral and/or illegal, it doesn't justify the Bushwhackos' later criminal acts. The death of any ONE person in an illegal action is murder. The number of dead beyond that is irrelevant regarding the evil of their crimes.

Of course when Moyers dies everyone will ignore his role in helping Johnson get elected and expand the Vietnam War and instead talk about what a great guy he was etc etc

Novak will be remembered as a turd because an act of TREASON was his last public act.

Originally posted by: Druidx

Dear Harvey the Rabbit, please show me where I ever said you plagiarized anything, those are your words not mine. You claimed your Criminal cabal post was your own work, while insulting someone else saying they were to stupid to write something similar.
I only pointed out one of the sites you copied "your so called work" from and how funny it was that you took the time to reverse the order of the quotes you copied.

You only pointed to this thread where you posted:

It doesn't require any special intellect to copy an paste stuff from www.americanprogress.org
Gee... is it just me or does all those quotes look familiar?

Of course, you did take the time to change the order of the quotes. I can only assume that is your idea of making it your own.
Congratulations. Do you want a cookie?

That was followed by Fear No Evil's lie:

Wow.. just wow. Its word for word. I guess Harvey is a plagarist as well as a liar. Unless of course this website is quoting his work.. :roll:

So, you point to a thread where you called me out for copying exact factual quotes by the Bushwhacko criminals and Fear No Evil directly labels me as "a plagarist." He was functionally illiterate enough that he couldn't see differences in the way those quotes were presented, and you dismiss the differences as meaningless.

The fact that you now say that's not a direct accusation that I plagarized the material on americanprogress.org makes you a freaking liar, and I already proved it isn't, but I know you're really thick and really stupid so I'll repeat this for you from my previous post...

My list is compiled from many sources, and every one of them that quotes those statements accurately will say exactly the same thing. The only way I could be wrong would be to misquote them. None of them is plagarizing anyone else by reciting the same facts, and public statements by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of that criminal gang are not protected. They are in the public domain.

Of course, when I include text, quotes and links from my "macros," I always connect them to the topic of the thread, but I suspect that you're also too reading challenged to understand that. :roll:

 

[Druidx]

You really are dense.
1) You implied you wrote it.
2) I showed where copied it from.
How can you get lost between point 1 and 2?

You keep crying about plagiarism. This from the previous topic.

"I never considered or called it plagiarism, a lot of what people write here is information from other sites. I considered this more like funny self ownage from Harvey since he claimed it as his own while insulting someone else by saying they were to stupid to write it even through it's mostly just a cut an paste job. "

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Taejin
who is robert novak?

/care

read the OP before posting?