Rock Band 3 Official Thread

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Pheran

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Here's a great shot of a RB3 song stats page. FINALLY, star tracking for every instrument on every difficulty. Woohoo!

 

jdport

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I notice they show slides there... but if you have the mustang controller and not the squier , it seems like slides wouldn't work all that well... if one button popped up before the next one was down you'd lose the slide. Maybe not .. I guess that's something that will remain to be seen...
 

TheUnk

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So looks like the real guitar is gonna come out months after then game.. Kinda lame.
 

Pheran

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So looks like the real guitar is gonna come out months after then game.. Kinda lame.

This is unfortunately true, the Squier isn't going to make it out until 2011. You can sign up for updates if you want to get news about it.

It's not bothering me too much, I'll have plenty to do learning the keyboard and I need extra time to save up for the guitar anyway.
 

Pheran

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Two weeks! My keyboard bundle is on preorder.

Rumor has it that Rock Band 3 will be coming with some free Doors DLC, see the DLC thread for more info.
 

Pheran

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There was a TV special on Rock Band 3 last night where it was announced that the Rock Band 2 export would cost $10 and include the "vast majority" of the songs. No word yet on what will be excluded, though there have been rumors floating around about Red Hot Chili Peppers and Soundgarden not making the cut. We also don't know if "Battery" will make it since "Enter Sandman" didn't make the RB1 export.
 
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abaez

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Keyboard bundle is $100 at Dell right now. Not sure when it's shipping but you can just buy it at BB or wherever then return it when you get Dell shipment if you don't want to wait.
 

Pheran

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Keyboard bundle is $100 at Dell right now. Not sure when it's shipping but you can just buy it at BB or wherever then return it when you get Dell shipment if you don't want to wait.

Nice deal! However, anyone who purchases anything with the intent of returning it is a d-bag in my book.
 

gorcorps

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It's actually considered fraud and AT has a very strong stance against that. I'd edit your post abaez and I'd get rid of his quote Pheran. People get in trouble all the time for stuff like this.
 

abaez

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Huh? You are returning a brand new, unopened product - the one you get from Dell. You keep the one you bought from BB. Not sure how that is fraud?
 

gorcorps

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Ah, it sounded like you were gonna return the used one without it being broken or something. Reading comprehension fail
 

TheUnk

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I still can't believe they are releasing this game months before the pro guitars..
 

Pheran

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I still can't believe they are releasing this game months before the pro guitars..

The Mustang is only a few more weeks away - Amazon is claiming mid to late November depending on which platform you are on. You do have to wait longer for the Squier though. I'm sure that wasn't the original intention, but obviously it took a little longer to perfect the hardware than anticipated.

I'm not minding the Squier delay much, because I can't afford it right now anyway, but I can see how it would be irksome for many. There's no word on the actual price, but I'm expecting around $300. The Mustang is $150.
 

gorcorps

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I still can't believe they are releasing this game months before the pro guitars..


Why? Makes sense to release the game on time rather than delay the game for one accessory that not everybody will buy. Yes pro guitar is the biggest change in the game, but it's also something that I believe the majority of people won't bother with because of the added price and complexity. I mean the mad catz guitar is $150, and the real Squire guitar hasn't been priced yet but I'll assume $200-300 now that the mad catz one is so high. I expected both to be $50 cheaper.
 

Pheran

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The Mustang is only a few more weeks away - Amazon is claiming mid to late November depending on which platform you are on. You do have to wait longer for the Squier though. I'm sure that wasn't the original intention, but obviously it took a little longer to perfect the hardware than anticipated.

I'm not minding the Squier delay much, because I can't afford it right now anyway, but I can see how it would be irksome for many. There's no word on the actual price, but I'm expecting around $300. The Mustang is $150.

Also, I just found that Gameshark (Madcatz's own store) is showing the 360 version of the Mustang as available right now. No one is sure if this is accurate yet, but a few on the RB forums have ordered to see if they get it right away.
 

Pheran

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Why? Makes sense to release the game on time rather than delay the game for one accessory that not everybody will buy. Yes pro guitar is the biggest change in the game, but it's also something that I believe the majority of people won't bother with because of the added price and complexity. I mean the mad catz guitar is $150, and the real Squire guitar hasn't been priced yet but I'll assume $200-300 now that the mad catz one is so high. I expected both to be $50 cheaper.

One could argue that keyboard is the biggest change to the game, since it will be more accessible and affordable to a larger audience, but it's debatable. I agree that pro guitar will only be used by a relatively small percentage of players (but I'm among them!).
 

TheUnk

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The keytar just does not seem big enough to me to be a "pro" instrument for this game. At least not for all songs..
 

gorcorps

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One could argue that keyboard is the biggest change to the game, since it will be more accessible and affordable to a larger audience, but it's debatable. I agree that pro guitar will only be used by a relatively small percentage of players (but I'm among them!).

That's a good point, I forgot about the keyboard part but I'm sure plenty of folk care more about that then realistic guitar. Like you said it's cheaper to get a keyboard, and they have fairly affordable packs for it.

I think my only disappointment with this game is the "pro drums". So they now differentiate between the cymbals and pads which is a step in the right direction, but I was hoping they'd also integrate the high hat (which has another pedal) which is a MAJOR part of playing real drums. I suppose they still can but I don't think they will.

So as it stands right now as far as game to real instrument accuracy:
-singing still and always has been as accurate as it can be
-pro guitar/bass on expert is now incredibly close to real life (I don't think it can detect palm mutes or pinch harmonics)
-keyboards are accurate to the notes, but may be a little condensed to fit into a 2 octave keyboard
-drums add cymbals, but don't include hi-hats and I'm not sure if pro mode will include double bass pedal for fast songs

Even though I play guitar in real life, I like the drums the best in the game for some reason. That's probably why I'm a tad disappointed in them... it seems like they went from one of the most accurate to real life to one of the least and IMO it's one of the easier ones to make realistic.
 

Pheran

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That's a good point, I forgot about the keyboard part but I'm sure plenty of folk care more about that then realistic guitar. Like you said it's cheaper to get a keyboard, and they have fairly affordable packs for it.

I think my only disappointment with this game is the "pro drums". So they now differentiate between the cymbals and pads which is a step in the right direction, but I was hoping they'd also integrate the high hat (which has another pedal) which is a MAJOR part of playing real drums. I suppose they still can but I don't think they will.

So as it stands right now as far as game to real instrument accuracy:
-singing still and always has been as accurate as it can be
-pro guitar/bass on expert is now incredibly close to real life (I don't think it can detect palm mutes or pinch harmonics)
-keyboards are accurate to the notes, but may be a little condensed to fit into a 2 octave keyboard
-drums add cymbals, but don't include hi-hats and I'm not sure if pro mode will include double bass pedal for fast songs

Even though I play guitar in real life, I like the drums the best in the game for some reason. That's probably why I'm a tad disappointed in them... it seems like they went from one of the most accurate to real life to one of the least and IMO it's one of the easier ones to make realistic.

The other complaint you hear about keyboard is that it is right-hand only, but frankly I don't see how they could have done both hands and still fit the track on the screen with any other instruments. If I get into the RB3 keyboard I'm seriously thinking about getting a real keyboard and a Synthesia setup in my basement.

FYI, RB3 does support an additional pedal that can be used for hi-hat or double bass, but there is no special charting in either case. One of the three pro cymbals is supposed to be the hi-hat.
 
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