Yea that OR Russia has perma-fucked itself.If you remember during the Cuban Missile crisis raildogg, our country almost got into a nuclear ear with the USSR because the Soviet Union attempted to set up missile silos not on the US’s borders, but in Cuba, a country with a body of water separating them. We even set up a naval blockade in Cuba.
But it’s totally fine when we set up secret CIA bases right on Russia’s border! No problem at all!
Then the resident stooges get outraged when Russia defends itself against NATO aggression.
If you poke the Russian bear enough, expect to get bitten back.
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I did mean that the governments don't care.I dont know about that.
I do. You do. A shit-ton of people actually cares about Ukraine.
It's the system we've build that doesnt care about Ukraine.
The way I see it, us, the peasants, through multiple confrontations with our betters have carved out these democracies for ourselves, rules of law, all the good stuff. Problem is that regular peasants dont want power. The same psychopaths that wanted power 200 years ago still want power though, they're just constrained within this framework we've managed to put together (in democratic countries of course), so it's still these psychos actually running things... And the framework doesnt reward them for putting Ukraine first.
The good hearted visionary idealistic leader is so far in between - it's not enough.
I'll say what I would like seen done. Ramp shit up to near infinity, because Russia is trying to do just that. And they are sitting on a whole lot of raw resources to distill into tangible shit that goes boom.True
In a tit for tat escalation Russia has thrown down the last card, we need to figure out if we want to play one ourselves.
The last card Russia has played is "We're willing to got to total-war" - the outcome is of existential importance to us.
So. Do we ramp up weaponry production to match Russia's output? Or do we fold? (and let Ukraine fall).
But the least we can do is try to get their skies unmolested, which they are very much at the moment, and give them some damn artillery. lol. That's the base minimum that needs done. And we need to ramp up production everywhere to parity of Russia and their allies at the absolute minimum. This needs done. Now. Or Ukraine is really fucked. The West is asleep at the wheel. I mean fuck, IMO, like Mahboi and I were going on about -- the dollar has had holes shot in it, letting Ukraine fall or get pieced out at this point is just extra salt in the wound. We shouldn't be fucking around and get serious about this, the damage has already been done. I'm willing for social services to take a back seat / run on life support to get defense industries rejuvenated to the point it gives aggressive nations extra contemplation of life choices.
I don't know, every country is different has has different "red lines." For China, its Taiwan. For Russia, its Ukraine and Georgia. For America, its Europe, the Western hemisphere, South China Sea, East Asia, Red Sea, Mediterranean Sea and many more which I will not mention. So it appears Russia's red lines are a lot less than America's. And China's are even less than that.
Zelly should call Biden up and be like, "Yo. This is Bibi, you know, Netanyahu. Say, how's fam? You get that new Corvette? Cool, I feel that. So look, our address has changed, send stuff to our new address. My secretary will fax over the details. Thanks, dawg."The thing that surprises me about the MAGA talking points about Ukrainian aid is that the majority is spent in the US going to US defense contractors. We already know that the Congress/President have been asleep at the wheel for production of munitions for several decades now. It doesn't matter how fancy or high-tech your weapon is you need enough of the stuff that goes bomm!!!. The Ukrainian aid is going a long way to increase the rate that we can build munitions in the future and figuring out where the gaps are and fixing those gaps. Yes I absolutely agree that the Biden administration have been slow to give Ukraine the weapons they need because they have been to worried about what Russia might do. From HIMARS, M1 Abrams to now F-16's the current Biden administration has been slow to authorize things for Ukraine. Something I almost think they don't want Ukraine to win. To me the answer should be from Republicans is to lean into what is happening in Ukraine and realize the world is a lot more dangerous place that we thought just a couple of years ago. They should be tagging along with Ukrainian aid bills major increases in defense spending and see if the Democrats try to say no. Plug the gaps in the entire US defense structure and force the Democrats to have a conversation around how much powerful the US military needs to be while the Ukraine war is ongoing.
Zelly should call Biden up and be like, "Yo. This is Bibi, you know, Netanyahu. Say, how's fam? You get that new Corvette? Cool, I feel that. So look, our address has changed, send stuff to our new address. My secretary will fax over the details. Thanks, dawg."
Stuff start showing up priority mail.
Russia has broken every single treaty or agreement that Ukraine has entered with them, it's not worth the paper it's signed on.
Russia's "word" is worth about the same as Nazi Germany's at this point. In case you're confused, that means it's worth less than dogshit.
Budapest Memorandom. Minsk 1, Minsk 2 ... All of them buttfucked by Russia. Trying to turn the blame on Ukraine is idiotic at best.
Random thought, if Minsk was ever viable how can the territories suddenly "democratically vote" to be annexed by 99% of the vote?
- That's the lying sacks of shits we're dealing with.
Russia is a pest.
She defended the 2015 peace agreement that she and then-French President Francois Hollande brokered in Minsk, Belarus, aimed at easing fighting in eastern Ukraine between government forces and Russian-backed separatists.
Merkel conceded that it didn’t fulfill all of Ukraine’s interests and that few people stand by it now, with some saying it was badly negotiated.
“But at the time it brought calm and, for example, it gave Ukraine a great deal of time — seven years namely — to develop into what it is today,” she said. If there had been no intervention at the time, she added, “Putin could have wrought gigantic damage in Ukraine.”
Well I'm sure as a lover of peace you feel the same way.Man you guys BETTER hope Iran does not strike Israel. If it does, it’s all hands on deck in the Biden admin for Israel and no one will give two shits about Ukraine anymore. This time for good.
Anyone remember when Zelensky tried to tag along with Netanyahu?
Media: Israel refuses Zelensky’s visit, says 'time not right'
The president was, however, told that the visit might be possible at a later date, the news outlet said. Zelensky reportedly wanted to make the trip alongside U.S. State Secretary Antony Blinken, who arrived on Oct. 16 to assure Tel Aviv of Washington's support in the ongoing Israel-Hamas War.news.yahoo.com
‘Hey bud, can I meet you in person so I can siphon off some of that money you’re going to get?’ LOL
Am I to understand that from reading that you infer that Ukraine only entered into the agreement to purposefully break it later when it had a chance to arm up?Wrong again:
No apologies: Germany's Merkel defends approach to Ukraine
BERLIN (AP) — Angela Merkel defended her approach to Ukraine and Russia during her 16 years as Germany's leader, saying Tuesday that a much criticized 2015 peace deal for eastern Ukraine bought Kyiv precious time and she won't apologize for her diplomatic efforts.apnews.com
Just another example of how the ‘west’ conducts agreements.
Lol seen this this?Man you guys BETTER hope Iran does not strike Israel. If it does, it’s all hands on deck in the Biden admin for Israel and no one will give two shits about Ukraine anymore. This time for good.
Anyone remember when Zelensky tried to tag along with Netanyahu?
Media: Israel refuses Zelensky’s visit, says 'time not right'
The president was, however, told that the visit might be possible at a later date, the news outlet said. Zelensky reportedly wanted to make the trip alongside U.S. State Secretary Antony Blinken, who arrived on Oct. 16 to assure Tel Aviv of Washington's support in the ongoing Israel-Hamas War.news.yahoo.com
‘Hey bud, can I meet you in person so I can siphon off some of that money you’re going to get?’ LOL
Buy a cheap standup fan, create armor.
Catch shrapnel from drone detonations.What are tires supposed to do besides add fuel to burn hotter?
I would say the problem isn't that they lie - all govt do to some extent but rather they are incapable of telling the truth - ever. And if someone on the Russian slips and tell the truth - even by accident - they seem to find an open window soon after.... really. Who would want to talk to a representative of such a shithole.lol the Russians are mad that someone noticed they lie all the time.
French Foreign Ministry refuses to talk to Russians since they lie, Russia is outraged
Russia is outraged due to recent statements by Stephane Séjourné, French Foreign Affairs Minister, about France’s unwillingness to negotiate with Russia and has summoned the French ambassador to Moscow to its Foreign Ministry.www.pravda.com.ua
You are right that governments lie. No government lies like Russia does. For example a few days before invading Ukraine they claimed this was all a lie.I would say the problem isn't that they lie - all govt do to some extent but rather they are incapable of telling the truth - ever. And if someone on the Russian slips and tell the truth - even by accident - they seem to find an open window soon after.... really. Who would want to talk to a representative of such a shithole.
DragonFire: UK laser could be used against Russian drones on Ukraine front line
The defence secretary said the laser could be used to take down Russian drones as early as 2027.www.bbc.com