Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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kage69

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We need more info obviously, but people should remember being cool with Putin doesn't automatically mean Putin is cool with you. Mr. False Flag is no stranger to having underlings and allies removed if it helps him acheive a goal.

Anyone remember Mikhail Tolstykh? Alexei Mozgovoi? Wannabe separatist warlords in the Donbas who wore out Moscow's patience.
 
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K1052

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What happens if evidence uncovers that Russia was conducting a false flag operation to make it look like Pro-UKR action?

The GRU getting caught trying to assassinate Fico and frame others would be an on brand operation.
 

dainthomas

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When you say titanic strides. Do you mean the loss of their flagship in the Black Sea?



Or the fact Russia lost 1/3 of their Black Sea fleet?



Titanic indeed

And most of the rest have been chased off to Novorossiysk, where they're afraid to leave port.
 

you2

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Somewhat interesting uptrend in Russian T-62 losses. We’ll see if it continues.

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I think it is more interesting they lost 16 T-80 and 14 T-72. Would be even more interesting to know how many tanks are loss relative to the number on the field.

Of course the raw number of tanks loss is amazing; a true salute to shitty Russian design team. Of course at the rate Putin has been purging intellect things will only get better in the future.
 

RnR_au

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"Within a month" - looks like the Ukrainian summer will be hot for Russian air and ground assets.
 

bononos

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Friendly reminder that Russia has approximately the same number of troops in two days as the US lost in Afghanistan did in 20 years. Wonderful little war they've hitt going on.
Russia is pushing hard in the northeast and pushing towards Kharkiv and theres news about increased desertion rates. We don't know whether the proportion of deaths/desertion is alot higher among the more disposable troops like foreign contractors tricked into signing up.

The headlines are grim. Ukraine is staring at defeat and could lose big in the summer offensive. Ukraine is hard pressed for manpower and materiel.
 

Zor Prime

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Czech President says it's naive to think Ukraine can eject the Russians in the foreseeable future, that it's time for negotiation. It's worth mentioning that they've been a staunch supporter of Ukraine.
 

K1052

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Czech President says it's naive to think Ukraine can eject the Russians in the foreseeable future, that it's time for negotiation. It's worth mentioning that they've been a staunch supporter of Ukraine.

He does state that such negotiations should only happen with Ukraine's consent. Given that the Ukrainians don't trust a word of what the Russians say I don't think that will be forthcoming real soon.
 

Zor Prime

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He does state that such negotiations should only happen with Ukraine's consent. Given that the Ukrainians don't trust a word of what the Russians say I don't think that will be forthcoming real soon.
I would surely hope so. Negotiations have to involve both Ukraine and Russia, anything else is simply a waste of time.
 
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