Mostly because it took until the surrender of Germany to capture these bastards.
Ukraine on the other hand...well quite a different situation, right?
The Allies didn't start the Nuremberg trials in 1941 during WW2.
Mostly because it took until the surrender of Germany to capture these bastards.
Ukraine on the other hand...well quite a different situation, right?
There is no possible deal to achieve peace.I’m curious—what does this forum consider an “acceptable” compromise to cease hostilities? Here’s my take:
Yup, new strategies to be formed to mass eradicate the coming 500.000 new mobilized orcs. So many dead. Its surreal.There is no possible deal to achieve peace.
The problem is Russia has already shown it cannot be trusted whatsoever:
It is a mafia criminal state. Mobsters who only understand one thing, blunt force.
Peace will only be achieved when Ukraine has obtained the capability to exterminate any Russian soldier who steps over the border. When any and all Russian military objectives are a pathetic impossible joke.
In short, Ukraine needs to become South Korea. It was Russia that fought South Korea, and it did not end until it was obvious all the Russian fighters, pilots, SAMs, operators, and etc were completely worthless to achieving Russian goals.
The orcs only understand one thing. Swift and ruthless extermination without hesitation. Ukraine will not see peace until it demonstrates this capability.
On CBS network news tonight it was said about 2 months but it was hoped that the 50 Bradleys would be tank killers and a game changer.
Hoping Russia's economy collapses this year. Many in Russia (I'm told) even now cannot use ATMs to withdraw their money from banks. Russian response to the economic crisis is to print money in spades, i.e. runaway inflation. The war may end this year because Russia becomes incapable of keeping it up.Yup, new strategies to be formed to mass eradicate the coming 500.000 new mobilized orcs. So many dead. Its surreal.
Further expansion on the ideas I plead for.
We have not yet done enough. We need to be "all in" to supply Ukraine, or risk the outcome of the war.
If Russia remains in Ukraine, Russia wins. And they will strike again after their current campaign has devastated and weakened Ukraine economically. Some years later, after our life support has dried up, Putin can clean up the dead husk that was Ukraine. We must act now. EVERYTHING must be done to decisively end this in Ukraine's favor.
Rice: Time is not on Ukraine’s side.
(By Condoleezza Rice, former secretary of state and Robert M. Gates, former secretary of defense)
Meanwhile, although Ukraine’s response to the invasion has been heroic and its military has performed brilliantly, the country’s economy is in a shambles, millions of its people have fled, its infrastructure is being destroyed, and much of its mineral wealth, industrial capacity and considerable agricultural land are under Russian control. Ukraine’s military capability and economy are now dependent almost entirely on lifelines from the West — primarily, the United States. Absent another major Ukrainian breakthrough and success against Russian forces, Western pressures on Ukraine to negotiate a cease-fire will grow as months of military stalemate pass. Under current circumstances, any negotiated cease-fire would leave Russian forces in a strong position to resume their invasion whenever they are ready. That is unacceptable.The only way to avoid such a scenario is for the United States and its allies to urgently provide Ukraine with a dramatic increase in military supplies and capability — sufficient to deter a renewed Russian offensive and to enable Ukraine to push back Russian forces in the east and south. Congress has provided enough money to pay for such reinforcement; what is needed now are decisions by the United States and its allies to provide the Ukrainians the additional military equipment they need — above all, mobile armor. The U.S. agreement Thursday to provide Bradley Fighting Vehicles is commendable, if overdue. Because there are serious logistical challenges associated with sending American Abrams heavy tanks, Germany and other allies should fill this need. NATO members also should provide the Ukrainians with longer-range missiles, advanced drones, significant ammunition stocks (including artillery shells), more reconnaissance and surveillance capability, and other equipment. These capabilities are needed in weeks, not months.
Slightly related but Turkey made some additional demands that Sweden cannot abide by so their inclusion into NATO seems to be dead
Sweden Can't Meet Some Turkey Demands For NATO Bid: PM
Turkey, which has for months blocked NATO membership bids by Sweden and Finland, has made some demands that Sweden cannot accept, Sweden's prime minister said on Sunday.www.barrons.com
^^^ This. Diplomacy is an excruciating dance.Erdogan will eventually have to give in. It's mostly a question of what he extracts to do so.
I remember getting shit from people early in this thread before the invasion when I said the simple fact that Russia lies about everything.If anyone was really sold on Russkie propaganda
There you fucking go.
It’s easier to gauge the truth with the Russkies as virtually everything they say is untrue.
I remember getting shit from people early in this thread before the invasion when I said the simple fact that Russia lies about everything.
Now that I think about it more though it’s that Russians are truth indifferent. It’s not that they MUST lie, it’s that whether something is true carries no weight in their decision making.
I agree, Republicans are similarly truth indifferent, especially since Trump.I did a quick scan of your post and mistakenly assumed you were referring to Repubs instead of Russians because what you mentioned in your closing commentary precisely fit their MO. Lying is just another means to an end for both of them, just another tool in their propaganda toolbox. The more I compare the two, the more glaring their similarities reveal themselves.
I remember getting shit from people early in this thread before the invasion when I said the simple fact that Russia lies about everything.
Now that I think about it more though it’s that Russians are truth indifferent. It’s not that they MUST lie, it’s that whether something is true carries no weight in their decision making.
I disagree. Russian leaders lie and has continued to lie since the Russian revolution. The communist revolution was lie to move power from the Czar to the communist leadership. The vehicle was Marx' utopian fallacy - a thought experiment, offering nothing of substance to the real world. Lying is ingrained in the psyche of Russian rulers and I don't see how that ever ends.I remember getting shit from people early in this thread before the invasion when I said the simple fact that Russia lies about everything.
Now that I think about it more though it’s that Russians are truth indifferent. It’s not that they MUST lie, it’s that whether something is true carries no weight in their decision making.
I disagree. Russian leaders lie and has continued to lie since the Russian revolution. The communist revolution was lie to move power from the Czar to the communist leadership. The vehicle was Marx' utopian fallacy - a thought experiment, offering nothing of substance to the real world. Lying is ingrained in the psyche of Russian rulers and I don't see how that ever ends.