Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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biostud

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They can supposedly unearth 20 meters down into the ground. They're hell on troops. There's no indication they're coming unless you're privy to radar data of the bombers flying around. They just ... show up. Can you imagine? Talk about being caught off guard. Apparently insanely loud also, if you manage to survive close proximity your ear drums are probably blown out. Traumatizing as fuck according to the soldiers who manage to get word out. Who would have thought artillery would be preferential to contend with.

It gets better:

Yesterday's ISW report mentions, "The Russian Air Force (VKS) reportedly started using guided glide bombs against Ukraine. Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces recently started conducting air strikes with guided glide bombs with universal interspecific glide ammunition (UMPB), as opposed to using unguided glide bombs with unified planning and correction modules (UMPK), in unspecified areas in Ukraine.[51] Russian milbloggers claimed that the guided glide bombs with UMPB have jet engines, which are absent from FAB-250/500 bombs with UMPC, and thus can increase the range of a FAB-250/500 from 40-60 kilometers to 80-95 kilometers.[52]"

edit: ^ Apparently they're tired of losing bombers as frequently as they have been. Forgot to mention that -- that's my assessment.
Hopefully F-16 can help on that problem.
 
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K1052

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I'm curious can Biden use the Defense Production Act circumvent the congress block so we can still produce and supply aid or would it still get bogged down by congress?

The 4B in remaining drawdown authority can still be used. The Pentagon is probably leery of doing this without assured backfill but there are things we could sent that would mitigate some of this concern.

Biden could also reprogram cash (thanks Trump) from other places in the military budget to continue supply of any needed items.
 

K1052

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The two pictures on the right look like such ass from a logistics perspective.

Typical Russian way of doing things. They never bothered to streamline their logistics even a little bit because they always assumed unlimited access to human labor (conscripts).
 

Zor Prime

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There's not too much that happens in this world that surprises me anymore.

Well, then there's days like this.

Pope Francis says he thinks Ukraine should raise a white flag and negotiate with Russia.

I didn't see that one coming, in the language that was delivered.
 

Perknose

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There's not too much that happens in this world that surprises me anymore.

Well, then there's days like this.

Pope Francis says he thinks Ukraine should raise a white flag and negotiate with Russia.

I didn't see that one coming, in the language that was delivered.
Fucking out of touch cross dresser.
 

you2

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There's not too much that happens in this world that surprises me anymore.

Well, then there's days like this.

Pope Francis says he thinks Ukraine should raise a white flag and negotiate with Russia.

I didn't see that one coming, in the language that was delivered.
Give the pope a break; he's old and senile.
 

RnR_au

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There's not too much that happens in this world that surprises me anymore.

Well, then there's days like this.

Pope Francis says he thinks Ukraine should raise a white flag and negotiate with Russia.

I didn't see that one coming, in the language that was delivered.
Since the interview, the Pope has come out and said that he misspoke and meant to say negotiate.
 

Zor Prime

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Since the interview, the Pope has come out and said that he misspoke and meant to say negotiate.
You know, I actually did wonder if that was a case of "well shit, wish I could take that one back." Because like, that was rather heavy. That's why I was surprised, the language of the messaging. Heavy as fuck. lol
 
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Zor Prime

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The glide bomb thing is of particular interest to me considering its current potency on the battlefield and likelihood to be an ongoing factor.

ISW issued some updates which expands upon the previous day:

"A Ukrainian military official confirmed that Russian forces are conducting strikes in Ukraine with improved glide bombs. Ukrainian Tavriisk Group of Forces Spokesperson Captain Dmytro Lykhovyi reported on March 10 that Russian forces struck Myrnohrad, Donetsk Oblast, with three universal interspecific glide munition (UMPB) D-30SN guided glide bombs that Ukrainian forces initially originally assessed were S-300 missiles.[1] Lykhovyi stated that improved UMPB D-30SN guided glide bombs essentially convert Soviet-era FAB unguided gravity bombs to guided glide bombs. Russian forces had previously used unguided glide bombs as recently as January 2024.[2] ISW recently observed Russian milbloggers claim that Russian forces began conducting strikes with FAB UMPB guided glide bombs, as opposed to using unguided glide bombs with unified planning and correction modules (UMPC), in unspecified areas in Ukraine.[3] A Russian milblogger claimed that UMPB guided glide bombs have a guidance system that includes a noise-resistant GLONASS/GPS “Comet” signal receiver and folding wings similar to a Kh-101 cruise missile.[4] Russian milbloggers claimed that Russian forces can launch UMPB guided glide bombs from aircraft and ground-based multiple rocket launch systems (MLRS) such as Tornado-S and Smerch MLRS.[5] A Russian outlet claimed that Russian aviation is currently launching UMPBs without jet engines, but that Russia anticipates employing UMPBs with jet engines in the future.[6] Russian milbloggers claimed that UMPB guided glide bombs with a jet engine and fuel tank, currently absent from aerial glide bombs with UMPC, will allow Russian aviation to drop guided glide bombs from a lower altitude “similar to air-to-surface cruise missiles” and increase the maximum strike range to 80-90 kilometers.[7] Russian milbloggers claimed that the increased range of UMPB guided glide bombs will allow Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) to increase the depth of strikes on Ukrainian positions without risk from Ukrainian air forces detecting or destroying Russian fixed-wing aircraft.[8] Russian milbloggers claimed that the Russian defense industrial base (DIB) is attempting to mass-produce UMPB guided glide bombs.[9] Russian forces will likely attempt to serialize production of UMPB guided glide bombs and increase their use across the frontline."

I made the bold sections above. So it seems no fancy jet-propulsion is in use, yet. Notable is that when they are, they won't need aircraft to lob these things if the millbloggers are to be believed -- however it probably increases range if they were ... 'physics' and all. Deep strikes would probably continue with the aid of aircraft. I wonder how long it takes Ukraine to utilize something similar, it would stand to be in their interest to do so.
 

Racan

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