Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[kage69]

The only one forcing anyone here is Zelensky. The Russians are waiting for a phone call, as they have said for two years now. Because that’s how most wars end, you know, thru diplomacy.

BTW, I was told Ukrainians were heroically fighting for their country, so these videos aren’t real aren’t they?

Let’s not try and defend this disgusting behavior, nor try to pretend like Russians throwing a few criminals into the front line is worse then snatching innocent people who are just trying to live their lives into the battlefield.

And I’ll say it again, Zelensky can end this anytime he wants to, but refuses to because of course, his life isn’t on the line. Who cares if the peasants die anyway? He’ll fly out in a golden parachute once it is all said and done.

Zelenskyy didn't invade anyone you ignorant twat. The Russians are the ones trying to stamp out a country, not Ukraine. You can try to defend your contempt for Ukrainian sovereignty all you want, still weak shit though.

Ukraine is on the receiving end of a genocide, and you call their behavior disgusting? There is definitely something very wrong with you.

Yes, the Ukrainians are fighting heroically for their country. Bravery in spades. Morally righteous in defense of their families, land and culture. It's what allows a single Ukrainian to drive off 10 assaulting Russians, much to the chagrin of the Russian commander watching it all via drone feed. Remember that one? Pretty sure I've linked it for you before.

Or hey, remember this suave motherfucker?

Meanwhile Russians die like rats, looting their own dead when they run. Another ~1,300 dead today I heard. How many were killed by the AFU and how many were "nullified" you think? Happy May Day cyka!

 

[Young Grasshopper]

Oh hi again dumb Russian troll. I guess you haven’t heard that your shithole country has tried to assassinate Zelensky … what is it, three times now? Good thing you all suck at your jobs. Most buffoonishly incompetent group of people on earth, including the shitty trolls they send to these forums.

Why would Russia assassinate Zelensky? So they risk the chance of putting someone more competent in charge? I mean we’re talking about a guy who has been given HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars in aid, has the backing of 30+ countries, a botched counteroffensive, goes around the world hat in hand asking for handouts, and needlessly cost his country hundreds of thousands of deaths because he refused to do the one thing that ends most war, which is diplomacy. Why you ask? Because he is a puppet of the UK and US. But if you want to believe every word that comes out of the Ukrainians governments mouth like a brainwashed moron without questioning it, go for it.

Ukrainians don’t want this anymore. I don’t see any videos of lines forming outside of conscription offices. Instead I see Ukrainians dying in rivers trying to cross into Romania. People being smuggled by the truckload into a neighboring country, and just a couple of days ago I saw two Ukrainians who were caught at the border dressed like women.

They had a peace agreement being finalized nearly two years ago before Zelensky daddy(US and UK) told him to pull out and now, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are dead, they’ve lost a quarter of their country and losing more of their grid daily.

Imagine thinking letting a few criminals out of prison and having them fight a war in exchange for some freedom is WORSE than snatching LAW ABIDING citizens from their homes, work, gyms, bars and sending them into the mean grinder.

Hilarious!

You guys should think before you post.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Why would Russia assassinate Zelensky? So they risk the chance of putting someone more competent in charge? I mean we’re talking about a guy who has been given HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars in aid, has the backing of 30+ countries, a botched counteroffensive, goes around the world hat in hand asking for handouts, and needlessly cost his country hundreds of thousands of deaths because he refused to do the one thing that ends most war, which is diplomacy. Why you ask? Because he is a puppet of the UK and US. But if you want to believe every word that comes out of the Ukrainians governments mouth like a brainwashed moron without questioning it, go for it.

Ukrainians don’t want this anymore. I don’t see any videos of lines forming outside of conscription offices. Instead I see Ukrainians dying in rivers trying to cross into Romania. People being smuggled by the truckload into a neighboring country, and just a couple of days ago I saw two Ukrainians who were caught at the border dressed like women.

They had a peace agreement being finalized nearly two years ago before Zelensky daddy(US and UK) told him to pull out and now, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are dead, they’ve lost a quarter of their country and losing more of their grid daily.

Imagine thinking letting a few criminals out of prison and having them fight a war in exchange for some freedom is WORSE than snatching LAW ABIDING citizens from their homes, work, gyms, bars and sending them into the mean grinder.

Hilarious!

You guys should think before you post.

-Indeed!

Russia must stop the WAR CRIMINAL Zelensky (AKA Ukrainian HITLER) from hurting any more Ukranians by kidnapping them and sending them against first class superpower like Russia.

Imagine the incredible harm it would do to the CABAL of western OLIGARCHS if Russia suddenly stopped and reversed it's offensive against Ukraine? What excuse would the RAPACIOUS west have if suddenly their citizens saw that Russia had in fact withdrawn from Ukraine and yet the BEAST WEARING A MAN'S SKIN Zelensky continues to kidnap them and send them to die against Russia at its internationally recognized border?

There would be a color revolution in Ukraine: Red! The color of Russia and presumably the color of Zelensky's blood (assuming he is even HUMAN).

For this I wholly support the brilliant Russian counter offensive of withdrawing from Ukraine back to the internationally recognized Russian border and then we can watch with DELIGHT as Ukraine, nay, the whole WEST collapses upon itself as it's sins are laid bare.

 

[zinfamous]

Why would Russia assassinate Zelensky? So they risk the chance of putting someone more competent in charge? I mean we’re talking about a guy who has been given HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars in aid, has the backing of 30+ countries, a botched counteroffensive, goes around the world hat in hand asking for handouts, and needlessly cost his country hundreds of thousands of deaths because he refused to do the one thing that ends most war, which is diplomacy. Why you ask? Because he is a puppet of the UK and US. But if you want to believe every word that comes out of the Ukrainians governments mouth like a brainwashed moron without questioning it, go for it.

Ukrainians don’t want this anymore. I don’t see any videos of lines forming outside of conscription offices. Instead I see Ukrainians dying in rivers trying to cross into Romania. People being smuggled by the truckload into a neighboring country, and just a couple of days ago I saw two Ukrainians who were caught at the border dressed like women.

They had a peace agreement being finalized nearly two years ago before Zelensky daddy(US and UK) told him to pull out and now, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are dead, they’ve lost a quarter of their country and losing more of their grid daily.

Imagine thinking letting a few criminals out of prison and having them fight a war in exchange for some freedom is WORSE than snatching LAW ABIDING citizens from their homes, work, gyms, bars and sending them into the mean grinder.

Hilarious!

You guys should think before you post.

I don't speak cvnt.

can someone please translate?

 

[Pens1566]

Someone should do a heat map of when Ivan posts in here and compare it to world time zones. I think the results would be interesting.

 

[Brovane]

The only one forcing anyone here is Zelensky. The Russians are waiting for a phone call, as they have said for two years now. Because that’s how most wars end, you know, thru diplomacy.

BTW, I was told Ukrainians were heroically fighting for their country, so these videos aren’t real aren’t they?

Let’s not try and defend this disgusting behavior, nor try to pretend like Russians throwing a few criminals into the front line is worse then snatching innocent people who are just trying to live their lives into the battlefield.

And I’ll say it again, Zelensky can end this anytime he wants to, but refuses to because of course, his life isn’t on the line. Who cares if the peasants die anyway? He’ll fly out in a golden parachute once it is all said and done.

Wars of Genocide really don't end through diplomacy. Did the Great Patriotic war end in Diplomacy with Nazi Germany? There is nothing for Ukraine to negotiate with Russia because Russia thinks Ukraine shouldn't exist.

Talking about Russian sending criminals to the front line. The Violent Homecoming of Russian Convicts Freed to Fight in Ukraine

Communities across Russia have been brutalized by scores of crimes perpetrated by these returning convicts, according to a Wall Street Journal review of court documents, interviews with friends and relatives of suspects and victims, and reports in Russian media. Rights activists said dozens more go unreported.

One man staged a shootout in a cafe, killing one person and seriously wounding another, according to court documents. Another is accused of raping two girls. A third, who had been convicted of murder three times, poured gasoline on his sleeping sister and burned her alive, according to the court’s press office.

You can't make this up, right?

 

[Brovane]

I guess if a Russian soldier is just "missing" the Kremlin doesn't have to pay the death compensation. That is one way to keep the casualty count down, don't acknowledge they are dead.

Angry Families of Missing Russian Soldiers Want Answers From Putin

 

[cytg111]

Why would Russia assassinate Zelensky? So they risk the chance of putting someone more competent in charge? I mean we’re talking about a guy who has been given HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of dollars in aid, has the backing of 30+ countries, a botched counteroffensive, goes around the world hat in hand asking for handouts, and needlessly cost his country hundreds of thousands of deaths because he refused to do the one thing that ends most war, which is diplomacy. Why you ask? Because he is a puppet of the UK and US. But if you want to believe every word that comes out of the Ukrainians governments mouth like a brainwashed moron without questioning it, go for it.

Ukrainians don’t want this anymore. I don’t see any videos of lines forming outside of conscription offices. Instead I see Ukrainians dying in rivers trying to cross into Romania. People being smuggled by the truckload into a neighboring country, and just a couple of days ago I saw two Ukrainians who were caught at the border dressed like women.

They had a peace agreement being finalized nearly two years ago before Zelensky daddy(US and UK) told him to pull out and now, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians are dead, they’ve lost a quarter of their country and losing more of their grid daily.

Imagine thinking letting a few criminals out of prison and having them fight a war in exchange for some freedom is WORSE than snatching LAW ABIDING citizens from their homes, work, gyms, bars and sending them into the mean grinder.

Hilarious!

You guys should think before you post.

This is low bar even for a 8B large language model from 2022. Seriously. You guys should probably optimize and send this fool the the front instead.

 

[kage69]

Why would Russia assassinate Zelensky?

Trying to out stupid railed pussy?

It's working.

 

[kage69]

Wars of Genocide really don't end through diplomacy.

Cyka just wishes you remembered how the Jews of Europe negotiated with the 3rd Reich. It's simple established history he can't make up. What is wrong with you?!

 

[K1052]

Cross border incursions from Russia in the Kharkiv region this morning. Several villages right on the border were captured, AFU reports much of the assault was repelled. Russians did not reach the fortification lines that Ukraine has been preparing for the better part of a year.

Unlikely this presages a larger effort as Moscow doesn't have even half the resources on this axis to mount a major push.

 

[kage69]

Yeah looks like they lost their window.

How wonderful.

 

[Zor Prime]

IMO Russia is finally getting around to fleshing out a buffer zone they've been talking about. Supposedly they've got 50K new troops, that isn't likely to be enough to tackle a major city such as Kharkiv which is why I suspect they're going to try to carve out that buffer zone that keeps getting brought up. Guess we'll see. I didn't expect any major action today, no milblogger I follow expected it anyway. This is a surprise.

 

[K1052]

IMO Russia is finally getting around to fleshing out a buffer zone they've been talking about. Supposedly they've got 50K new troops, that isn't likely to be enough to tackle a major city such as Kharkiv which is why I suspect they're going to try to carve out that buffer zone that keeps getting brought up. Guess we'll see. I didn't expect any major action today, no milblogger I follow expected it anyway. This is a surprise.

They would need at least double that and they are absolutely short the equipment if not maybe the manpower. Major resources would have to be re-directed from the east for any real attempt on the city.

As to the "sanitary zone" that Putin wants establishing and maintaining that isn't going to be free either.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1788928970601255341

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

I guess if a Russian soldier is just "missing" the Kremlin doesn't have to pay the death compensation. That is one way to keep the casualty count down, don't acknowledge they are dead.

Angry Families of Missing Russian Soldiers Want Answers From Putin

If they're vaporized in a turret launching episode, are they dead or missing (since not much, if anything can be identified)?

 

[K1052]

For anyone who wants to watch the Russians waste an Iskander on a couple piles of wood.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1788949674516209972

 

[Jaskalas]

Supposedly they've got 50K new troops, that isn't likely to be enough to tackle a major city such as Kharkiv

Russia has a resource and manpower advantage over a smaller opponent. Make the active frontline larger, and Ukraine has to be spread thinner and thinner. Plus, that 50k does not need to tackle a "city". They just need to combat the Ukrainian defenders in that area, and push the frontline back. I know we haven't seen it happen since Mariupol, but surrounding a city is enough to destroy it. By the time the line shifts that far, another 100k Russians could be mobilized for the next stage of combat in that region.

What I am saying is, it is enough to cause serious problems, and to set the stage for additional forces later.

 

[Ajay]

Russia has a resource and manpower advantage over a smaller opponent. Make the active frontline larger, and Ukraine has to be spread thinner and thinner. Plus, that 50k does not need to tackle a "city". They just need to combat the Ukrainian defenders in that area, and push the frontline back. I know we haven't seen it happen since Mariupol, but surrounding a city is enough to destroy it. By the time the line shifts that far, another 100k Russians could be mobilized for the next stage of combat in that region.

What I am saying is, it is enough to cause serious problems, and to set the stage for additional forces later.

The incursions, as I understand it, are into the Kharkiv Oblast - not the city. Ground warfare dictates that one must advance from city to city (or large town) towards an objective. Some troops must be left behind to secure each small city on the way to the larger objective.

A WWII German Blitzkrieg like advance might succeed, but the Russians are nowhere near as good as the WWII German army; and the UA is better prepared for war than Europe was at the beginning of WWII. So, no, not happening.

 

[Jaskalas]

So, no, not happening.

Which part? You seem to be speaking past my point and addressing some other notion.
I believe 50k troops is enough to push the frontline and threaten the city. To lay the groundwork for it being captured by additional forces later.

Are you claiming we will not see Russia make progress in Kharkiv oblast?
I would love to see 50k get pasted and accomplish nothing, but watching the war would suggest a worse outcome.
Since Russia mobilized, the frontline has only been advancing in one direction. And spreading Ukraine thinner is only to Russia's advantage.

 

[Ajay]

I believe 50k troops is enough to push the frontline and threaten the city. To lay the groundwork for it being captured by additional forces later.

Yeah, not this. The UA isn't going to sit still for this and 50K will not be enough given the loss rate the RA will experience.

Are you claiming we will not see Russia make progress in Kharkiv oblast?

I don't expect much, and, the UA will respond as needed. Putin and his generals, it seems, have decided to make this a long war. They don't have the ability to attack into Ukraine as they did in the beginning of the war (horribly so) and they know it. They are waiting for the west to blink (hence the strategic defense exercises with Belarus). Or, for some idiot like the Orange man to come into power.

 

[Zor Prime]

Russia has a resource and manpower advantage over a smaller opponent. Make the active frontline larger, and Ukraine has to be spread thinner and thinner. Plus, that 50k does not need to tackle a "city". They just need to combat the Ukrainian defenders in that area, and push the frontline back. I know we haven't seen it happen since Mariupol, but surrounding a city is enough to destroy it. By the time the line shifts that far, another 100k Russians could be mobilized for the next stage of combat in that region.

What I am saying is, it is enough to cause serious problems, and to set the stage for additional forces later.

I get your point. My point was it isn't most likely lethal in an immediate sense. Sure enough, they don't need to march to the city and take it to fuck it. All they need to do is get fire control around it and then the city is fucked over a period of time. They've been doing this wherever possible, no reason they'll stop now. Cut it off and let it bleed out with a peppering of artillery, drones & FABs.

The north isn't even the immediate issue. The immediate issue is where the Russians are enjoying progress elsewhere, peeling away defenders to go plug in the new holes that would be forming in the north, further stretching already porous personnel and resources. Quite an alarming situation.

 

[Pens1566]

Unless they were holding back a few divisions of super-spetznaz, and some brand new equipment, and employing entirely new tactics I wouldn't expect Russia to gain much (important) ground at all. They might move the lines a smidge here or there, but it'll come at a huge cost.

 

[Jaskalas]

Unless they were holding back a few divisions of super-spetznaz, and some brand new equipment, and employing entirely new tactics I wouldn't expect Russia to gain much (important) ground at all. They might move the lines a smidge here or there, but it'll come at a huge cost.

Forcing Ukrainians to man the trenches to repel small assaults, and then carpet bombing the area is Russia's primary tactic. Between the bombings and the meat waves, eventually ground is lost. Russia continues to happily pay that cost, as they believe they will eventually win a war of attrition.

 

[JTsyo]

No one is forcing Russia to continue its criminal invasion. They can stop any time they want.

Maybe in the end Russia can be charged with felony murder for everything that happened during the war in Ukraine.

 

[Pipeline 1010]

I don't speak cvnt.

can someone please translate?

I do, so I can cvntsplain for you. F-tard says that attacking weaker countries is good but if they fight back it is bad. He believes that he should be allowed to punch you in the face and steal your lunch money but if you try to get him to stop then you are a bad man.