Russia's future civil war?

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slash196

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Why is he TELLING people this? I mean, a serious revolutionary would keep things on the DL.
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: bamacre
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070413/ts_nm/russia_revolution_berezovsky_dc_1

LONDON (Reuters) - Russian billionaire Boris Berezovsky said he is planning a revolution in Russia to topple President Vladimir Putin, in comments published on Friday.

"We need to use force to change this regime," Berezovsky, who has received asylum in Britain, told the Guardian newspaper.

"It isn't possible to change this regime through democratic means. There can be no change without force, pressure."

Asked if he was fomenting a revolution, he said: "You are absolutely correct."

Berezovsky, a vocal critic of Putin, said he was in contact with members of Russia's political elite.

He said these people -- who he did not name because, he said, that would endanger their lives -- shared his opinion that Putin was eroding democratic reforms, centralizing power and infringing Russia's constitution, according to the Guardian.

"There is no chance of regime change through democratic elections," Berezovsky said.

Sounds serious to me.

What is disturbing in my eyes is that eventually the USA may end up in the same boat. The current administrations' secrecy, trampling on the constituion and the Bill of Rights, along with the Democrats still being as impotent as Richard Simmons visting the Playboy mansion, I don't see a bright future ahead.

In the end though, it's our own damn fault, as well as the Russian citizens. We sit by and do nothing while we could be making change peacefully, then decide to act only when change must be brought via violence. Well, I hope we don't wait that long anyway.

Where's a Gandhi when we need one?

I don't see any correlation between Russia the USA.

I think you need to take the blinders off

And what will you say in less than 2 years when Bush is out of office and powerless and Democrats are in control? That we live in a dictatorship?
 

MadRat

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Putin is on the way per his constitution. Only he's been publically sending out political balloons aroudn the idea he'll personally repeal the term limits law.
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: senseamp
Berezovskiy has no chance. He is hugely unpopular in Russia, and Putin very popular.

Yeah, I was listening to this on NPR/BBC World. Russians apparently think the police, army, and press sux . . . but they love Putin. Basically, a country of Bush43 supporters.

Can you make a post w/o the word Bush in it? snore...

well our press sux too.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: bamacre
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070413/ts_nm/russia_revolution_berezovsky_dc_1

LONDON (Reuters) - Russian billionaire Boris Berezovsky said he is planning a revolution in Russia to topple President Vladimir Putin, in comments published on Friday.

"We need to use force to change this regime," Berezovsky, who has received asylum in Britain, told the Guardian newspaper.

"It isn't possible to change this regime through democratic means. There can be no change without force, pressure."

Asked if he was fomenting a revolution, he said: "You are absolutely correct."

Berezovsky, a vocal critic of Putin, said he was in contact with members of Russia's political elite.

He said these people -- who he did not name because, he said, that would endanger their lives -- shared his opinion that Putin was eroding democratic reforms, centralizing power and infringing Russia's constitution, according to the Guardian.

"There is no chance of regime change through democratic elections," Berezovsky said.

Sounds serious to me.

What is disturbing in my eyes is that eventually the USA may end up in the same boat. The current administrations' secrecy, trampling on the constituion and the Bill of Rights, along with the Democrats still being as impotent as Richard Simmons visting the Playboy mansion, I don't see a bright future ahead.

In the end though, it's our own damn fault, as well as the Russian citizens. We sit by and do nothing while we could be making change peacefully, then decide to act only when change must be brought via violence. Well, I hope we don't wait that long anyway.

Where's a Gandhi when we need one?

I don't see any correlation between Russia the USA.

I think you need to take the blinders off

And what will you say in less than 2 years when Bush is out of office and powerless and Democrats are in control? That we live in a dictatorship?

Yeah...I'm not exactly a big Bush supporter, but that's the great thing about our system. No matter how much I disagree with his policies, and no matter how much his toadies still slobber all over him, he's going to be out in less than 2 years. It's a great system, and one of the reasons we DON'T live in a dictatorship...no matter how much support a crazy president has for his crazy ideas, he's only got at most 8 years to screw things up. And while it might SEEM like a long time if you don't like the guy, it's not really all that long.
 

MadRat

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Kasparov is part of a newly formed party solely formed to topple their current president. Is he a traitor, too?
 

burek

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Originally posted by: MadRat
Kasparov is part of a newly formed party solely formed to topple their current president. Is he a traitor, too?

"Kasparov" is not Russian.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: burek
Originally posted by: MadRat
Kasparov is part of a newly formed party solely formed to topple their current president. Is he a traitor, too?

"Kasparov" is not Russian.

Where in his post did he say "Kasparov" was Russian? :roll:
 
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