Review RX 6600XT Reviews Thread

[Stuka87]

Rather than burry these in some 1000 page thread, may as well make them easy to find.

The performance is better than I expected. Fair bit faster than a 5700XT, but at a lot lower power consumption. Ray Tracing is poor, but that should not be a surprise. I do find it sad that TPU had to change their `Performance per Dollar` chart to include the obscene street prices

ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT STRIX OC Review

The ASUS Radeon RX 6600 XT STRIX OC is a custom design variant with a triple-slot, dual-fan cooler. The card achieves excellent performance in Full HD, giving you 60 FPS or higher in every single game we tested. Temperatures are very low, and overclocking potential is good, too.

www.techpowerup.com

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT Review: The Memory Compromise

Navi 23 only has 8GB GDDR6 on a 128-bit interface

www.tomshardware.com

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Here is how I feel about the whole MSRP thing -

 

[blckgrffn]

Reposting here because it's buried on the other thread:

Looks like at WQHD it's essentially tied with the 5700xt at whatever improved efficiency. Which doesn't seem like a bad showing at all, I used my 5700xt for WQHD gaming and was really happy with it.

A mix of High/Very High and the rare medium/low (BL3 smoke effect, looking at you) usually allowed for ~90+ FPS gaming.

LOL at the Tom's byline:

Navi 23 only has 8GB of GDDR6 on a 128 bit bus

I mean, the 3070ti only has 8GB of ram? Byline of that review:

GA104 gets a GDDR6X Upgrade

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Targeting sub $400 (I KNOW) and 1080P, 8GB seems like enough to me for that to not be the biggest factor to call out. That's Tom's #1 criticism of the 6600XT.

The more I compare the reviews of the 6600XT to the 3070ti (I know, not a normal comparison but latest releases from each) it's kinda nuts. 6600XT has a blistering, 3.5 star "OUR VERDICT" section right at the top. 3070Ti has no such section even though it seems to me that it deserves the same rating overall in terms of relative value to the 3070 and "crippled" by 8GB of ram as well.

 

[blckgrffn]

Haha, the headline of this review:

AMD RX 6600XT review: A sad trombone noise of a “$379” 2021 GPU

Too weak, too pricey, and likely understocked. In other words, another 2021 GPU tragedy.

arstechnica.com

Then opines about how the 3060Ti and 2060S "at a street price of about $500" box in the 6600XT and make it worthless. And how the 6600XT is priced only $10 cheaper than a 3060Ti FE. I wish that mattered, too.

LOL - where can I buy these $500 3060Tis?!? Or even new 2060 Supers?

Also, for good measure: DLSS is magic and ubiquitous while FSR is vastly inferior and unused. I usually like Ars but the Kool-Aid must be delicious.

That s not a regular 6600XT, they use an Ocked one even if increasing frequency doesnt bring much perfs in the table but still increase power substancially...

Computerbase test two cards and the one at stock use 147W while the slightly ocked is at 163W (11% more power) for only 2% better perfs, FTR the 3060 is at 172W.

To be fair, the lack of reference model kind of throws that all up in the air. You have to review what you get. I mean, it's miles different but at least a touch similar to the 3080. Yeah, it's perf per watt could be great but you get it how nvidia spec'd it and how board partners integrate it, some with even higher TBP allowances. I guess we'll just have to see where the AIBs generally fall with 6600XT TBP settings but I'd guess many skew them higher rather than toe the line. Because "OC" stickers sell.

 

[jpiniero]

So that excuses AMD for increasing the MSRP in a price-sensitive market segment by 35%?

Retailers/Scalpers would have just gotten the money instead. May as well.

 

[Stuka87]

In my market AMD is still being punished for launching a friggin RX 480 at outrageous prices, since 2016. Sure go ahead an delude yourself into believing that these things don't matter.

The RX 480 had a fixed price in USD. Any differences per country comes down to any sort of taxes and exchange rates being applied. And retailers are not required to sell cards at that MSRP. AMD/nVidia do not go and itemize a different price for every single country on earth.

If I wanted 6600 XT performance I could have got the same in 2019 with the 5700 XT. It means that performance in the $400 price-point hasn't improved an inch from AMD's side. Meanwhile on NVIDIA's side the performance jump from 2060 to 3060 is 20% and from 2060 Super to 3060 Ti is 36%.

So AMD deserves money for essentially giving us the same product two years down the line at the same price?

This is a faulty comparison. The 5700XT was replaced by the 6700XT. The 6600XT replaced the 5600XT. And the 6600XT is much faster than the 5600XT. Your comparison of the $400 price point literally means nothing, because nobody is selling cards as MSRP.

No AMD cards cost more where I live because AMD doesn't like to keep up the supply - their relationship with importers and retailers is rubbish. Always was, always will be. This is the problem with AMD; outside of their primary markets, they simply do not care. And then people (on this forum) expect customers (like in my country) to care about AMD.

AMD doesn't work directly with retailers for video cards. That comes down to AIBs (Asus, MSI, etc whom ALSO SELL nVidia cards!). But its pretty clear you feel like ignoring actual reality and like living in a green distortion field. nVidia is inarguably one of the most anti-consumer companies on earth. You should stop trying to act like they care about people and are doing things out of the goodness of their heart.

 

[AtenRa]

Guys, even the MSRP prices are bad for all new gen GPUs not only the retail prices.

We had 6600XT level of performance @ $400 MSRP two years ago. And that performance at $400 two years ago had increased from the prior generation due to NVIDIAs Turing cards.

$300 for the RTX3060 and $380 for the RX6600XT for 1080p gaming in 2021 is too high no matter how you see it.

Just remember that latest consoles are aiming 4K gaming at $500-600, none should consider that $300-400 GPUs for 1080p is ok even in this global market.

Unfortunately the majority of the consumer doesnt have consumer ethics, they buy what they can afford without even think about it. So AMD now that has a competitive line of products they price accordingly. They are a corporation and they need to make money, im ok with that but im not ok spending 400-450 for a 5700XT with RT and lower power two year later. Same goes for the NVIDIA parts.

Just my two cents

 

[Insert_Nickname]

This is why i said RIP budget gamer.

Only viable option for budget gaming is an APU currently.

A Budget gamer is not someone that has to buy a 500+ dollar videocard.

Indeed. If you can get it, I'd look for a prebuilt OEM system. Then add anything you need aftermarket. DIY really isn't budget territory in the current climate.

Sigh.... this is sad very sad.... and unfortuntely the only correction is to kill the demand, which i don't see happening anytime soon.

I don't see this situation ending for the foreseeable future. I've just seen complaints from major retailers here that you can pretty much forget Black Friday, Christmas and the January sale. They simply can't get anything using microchips in stock currently.

 

[AtenRa]

As of now in Germany, wich is the most competitive big european market, the 6600XT is 469€ at the cheapest (Mindfactory) and the 3060 at 559€.

Grafikkarten PCIe mit AMD + NVIDIA (aktuelle Modelle): RX 6600 XT Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Grafikkarten PCIe mit AMD + NVIDIA (aktuelle Modelle): RX 6600 XT

geizhals.de

Grafikkarten PCIe mit AMD + NVIDIA (aktuelle Modelle): RTX 3060 Preisvergleich Geizhals Deutschland

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Grafikkarten PCIe mit AMD + NVIDIA (aktuelle Modelle): RTX 3060

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As far as I can see, same goes for USA retail prices. 6600XT is cheaper vs the RTX3060 by $100 and more than $200 vs the RTX3060Ti

With retail prices of the RX6600XT cheaper vs the RTX3060, all review conclusions of the $379 MSRP vs $399 MSRP 3060Ti are all simple wrong and they should update their conclusions with current retail prices.

 

[Stuka87]

I don't care about your meaningless comparisons with US MSRP. I'm talking about MSRP in my country. It's not my problem if you're that slow to understand that I'm talking about garbage AMD GPU MSRPs for my country.

I would like to go out and thank you for completely taking my thread intended for talking about reviews of a new GPU and single handedly taking it off topic so you can complain about things that have nothing to do with this new card. We now have like 5 pages of you going back and forth with people about something that happened 6 years ago.

 

[blckgrffn]

You don't have to, but don't be upset when I say that AMD GPU prices are garbage in my country. It's funny that NVIDIA has to deal with the same set of people to get their cards selling in my country, but it's never a problem for them; on the other hand when it comes to AMD its only excuse after excuse.

I mean, you've made your point? In your specific region of your specific country AMD is regularly non-competitive based on pricing. Got it. Cool. I understand this makes you upset. For you specifically, the 6600XT is garbage release because the MSRP situation sucks. This I also understand.

Were you planning on buying one?

Otherwise, this is a rollo/keys troll of a review thread with constant refocusing on a singular aspect of AMD's release strategy rather speaking about this cards performance relevance. It's faster than a 3060 and they dared to price it higher* but AMD should know their place! It's almost the same price* as a 3060Ti but isn't nearly as fast! I think everyone understands this and how it is some level of pearl clutching to make more out of a down line card release that is otherwise a bit boring.

*at fictional MSRPs. Actual prices will be set by supply and demand.

 

[blckgrffn]

Consumers need to stop buying videocards in general and particularly, AMD cards at these inflated prices to correct the market.

Right, get out there and preach. AMD needs to be punished.

So, how do you feel about the 6600XT in todays market?

 

[Timorous]

I have done some more testing with my card in SW:TOR.

Running on the default Bios and not the OC bios. Frame rates are averaging 79fps when I turn v-sync off, this is at 4k with max settings. There are drops but that happens during transitions as it loads in a new area. In actual game play I don't notice anything. Would not be surprised if most of the drops are CPU related rather than GPU.

Card is hitting around 2590 and peaks at 2607. Temps are 57-58 degrees and hotspot is around 72 with the highest peak at 76. Power is 110 to 120W. In terms of noise I don't hear it. My pc has a low pitched hum and the card does not seem to add to it all.

All in I have to say I am pretty happy with it for my use case.

 

[DownTheSky]

RX 6600XT Sapphire Pulse. I finally broke 10k in Time Spy. This after an undervolt by 50 mV and power limit increased by 10%. Maximum fan set @67%, it's audible but not too much. Clocks are @ 2600Mhz core and 2200Mhz mem. Junction temp 82C. In the end I can say I'm pretty happy with it.

https://imgur.com/SAPQU2W

Btw to add to the discussion. I think the performance penalty in Doom Eternal is just with Ultra Nightmare textures because of texture streaming. I can't test it as I don't have PCIe 4.

 

[H T C]

Please direct me to where i can buy a 6600xt for 550 dollars.
I want 7 of them in white, and call it snow white, while giving each of the cards name "sleepy, grumpy, bashful, happy, dopey, doc, sneezy"
Ironically thats also the number of cards my ASUS Z170 Prime can also handle, and its also white.

It wasn't out of stock when i posted this @ TPU, a few days ago:



All out of stock now, @ this Portuguese store. Can't speak for other Portuguese stores.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

That's great to read. Despite all the hate, two actual owners that had to pay for the cards, instead of getting free review samples, are happy with it. How strange is that?

Add one here. Admittedly didn't have time for any extended testing before I went on holiday, but it did manage 55FPS @ 1440p highest in SOTTR with RT on. Disable RT, and FPS is above 60 at all times. Good enough for me.

I don't get why people are complaining. Anything over 60FPS is very much playable. Yes, yes, there is high refresh gaming, but then you're not looking at this card in the first place.

Price? Everything is wacky at the moment, and not just in computing.

I always was always told not to mix both on a single system.

Unless you're specifically running Vista, that shouldn't be any trouble. Vista's WDDM 1.0 can't handle multiple video drivers.

 

[moonbogg]

^ That was a nice effort. Next time lose the disclaimer and just let it flow, man. Let it flow. We are emotional creatures with emotional, instinctual responses. Our evolved, wrinkly brain steps in to filter the raw emotion into a form that is rational and coherent. The art is to find the boundary created by this process and just stay there. It's like stopping a washing machine half way through the wash cycle; are the clothes clean or dirty? Well, which is it?

 

[blckgrffn]

The Tom's review had a bunch of cringe aspects to it, a few have already been changed.

It's a head scratcher. At 1080p it easily bests the 3060 with 12GB of ram and 192 bit bus based on their own measurements:



And same at 1440p:



That's some great journalism there.

Finally Power Usage:


Very nice. Arguably better perf/watt than 3060 too.

Cringe paragraph (to me):

"Average clock speeds for the RX 6600 XT set a new record of 2640MHz during the Metro Exodus benchmark. It's a pretty steady clock speed as well, and above the official AMD boost clock of 2589MHz — but it's a factory overclocked card, and ASRock doesn't list a maximum boost clock. Meanwhile, the average clock speed in FurMark still comes in at an impressive 2353MHz, basically matching the RX 6700 XT. By comparison, Nvidia's GPUs all clock at least 700MHz lower, and in some cases, more than 1GHz lower than the RX 6600 XT. We'd be worried AMD was heading down the NetBurst and Bulldozer path to higher performance, chasing clock speeds at the cost of efficiency, were it not for the relatively tame power use."

Back handed compliment much? lol.

Also, graphs for reference! I don't think they are a be all end all, but it's somewhat fair to say, IMO, the 6600XT is delivering 2070S/5700XT (both 256 bit cards, so that IC is really doing its thing) performance in gaming at a significant power savings and unless someone really wants to split hairs, its close enough.

 

[AtenRa]

I think you're letting more recent market conditions color your reality. Go back and look at the launch of the 3080. Everyone was pretty blown away at how good the value was. After Turing people were expecting much higher prices. We got GA-102 for $700 when TU-102 was $1,200. AMD's 6800 XT was price competitive with that as well at $650.

Neither of those cards are bad prices. Of course you can't actually buy either of those cards for those prices. I haven't checked recently but both were going for double or more their MSRP not all that long ago. The more recently released cards and their MSRP are a reflection of the fact that anything getting released right now is going to be bought up by miners who value the product at a much higher dollar amount than gamers do.

let me tell you why RX6600XT pricing makes all people angry, it is because with RX6600XT AMD doesn't increase the perf/$ with the new generation as NVIDIA did with Ampere.
NVIDIA did actually increased the perf/$ with RTX3060 vs RTX2060 and RTX3060Ti vs RTX2060 Super. They increased the performance you get for the same MSRP as the Turing cards.

With the RTX3060Ti they gave you a healthy 30% performance increase vs the same $399 MSRP of the old Turing RTX2060 Super. If the market was at MSRP prices the RX6600XT at $379 would have no chance against the RTX3060Ti at $399.
With the RTX3060 they didnt fair that well that is why all reviews burred them, NVIDIA increased the MSRP to $330 for the RTX3060 and increased performance vs the RTX2060 by 15-20%
Its the same with RX6600XT, except the inclusion of the RT and a lower power consumption, AMD didnt increased the perf/$ at a significant level. So everyone was expecting AMD to bring a higher performance card at the $399 price that would be 10% faster vs the RTX3060Ti. That would be a good RX5700XT replacement card.
Well such a card exists, its the RX6700XT but not at the $399 MSRP.

Also to point out, that AMD released RX5700XT as a 1440p gaming card at $399 MSRP.
With RX6600XT release, two years later they actually trying to push a $379 MSRP card for 1080p gaming.
Well, that is an NVIDIA move taken from the Turing release. Time for AMD to take the flak for copying the NVIDIA tactics

 

[Rhezuss]

If actual gamers are really buying these cards at the markup prices... I'd hate to see what future MSRPs will be.

Yeah I know, and i'm not proud. But I need a new card and it was the only one "reasonably" priced that was available. I won't do it again I promise!

 

[jpiniero]

The performance is better than I expected. Fair bit faster than a 5700XT, but at a lot lower power consumption. Ray Tracing is poor, but that should not be a surprise. I do find it sad that TPU had to change their `Performance per Dollar` chart to include the obscene street prices

At 1440p it is faster than the 5700 XT but only barely. The gap between it and the 3060 Ti grows much bigger there too. It's all largely theoretical anyway.

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT im Test: Taktraten, Benchmarks (FHD & WQHD) und Raytracing

Radeon RX 6600 XT im Test: Taktraten, Benchmarks (FHD & WQHD) und Raytracing / Testsystem, Testmethodik, Spiele und Treiber

www.computerbase.de

Here's the compubase review.

 

[Shmee]

Seems like a decent GPU actually, my only complaint for it would probably be the x8 lanes for PCIe bus. The price is probably going to be all over the place, as with any GPU, so I would not even get hung up on that right now.

 

[Abwx]

Seems like a decent GPU actually, my only complaint for it would probably be the x8 lanes for PCIe bus. The price is probably going to be all over the place, as with any GPU, so I would not even get hung up on that right now.

You mean PCie 3.0 vs 4.0.?.
It makes negligible difference.

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT im Test: PCIe 3.0 vs. PCIe 4.0, Preis und Fazit

Radeon RX 6600 XT im Test: PCIe 3.0 vs. PCIe 4.0, Preis und Fazit / PCIe 4.0 oder 3.0 macht bei x8 einen Unterschied

www.computerbase.de

 

[Borealis7]

As TPU points out, at MSRP this could've been the best bang for the buck card but there is no reference design for sale and MSRP doesn't exist so we are stuck with this pile of junk.

 

[Shmee]

You mean PCie 3.0 vs 4.0.?.
It makes negligible difference.

AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT im Test: PCIe 3.0 vs. PCIe 4.0, Preis und Fazit

Radeon RX 6600 XT im Test: PCIe 3.0 vs. PCIe 4.0, Preis und Fazit / PCIe 4.0 oder 3.0 macht bei x8 einen Unterschied

www.computerbase.de

No, I mean the x8 lanes. It is mentioned in the TPU article in the conclusion. You are correct though, that it doesn't make much difference, but still. So if someone does not have PCIe gen 4 on their board, they will be likely limited to PCIe gen 3 x8.

As TPU points out, at MSRP this could've been the best bang for the buck card but there is no reference design for sale and MSRP doesn't exist so we are stuck with this pile of junk.

Not being available at MSRP does not make a card a pile of junk. It is still the same card, just pricier. Having a card with 2GB of DDR3 might make said card a pile of junk, at least for gaming, but that is not the case here.