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JohnnyRebel

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One big frustration with the S95 is that the LCD is not accurate. I am spoiled to being able to use the LCD on my Nikon DSLR as an actual preview of the picture and to make adjustments. You can't really do this on the S95. I was, at first, amazed at how the colors on the S95 would POP, and then really disappointed when I view them on my calibrated monitor. One more reason for a bit of buyers regret over not getting the P300 with it's amazing (by reports) LCD screen.

JR
 
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alkemyst

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LCDs on a camera are meant for preview and framing, not what the final picture will be.
 

JohnnyRebel

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LCDs on a camera are meant for preview and framing, not what the final picture will be.

Well, it works pretty well on other cameras. Most camera LCD's are not individually calibrated, but they should still be fairly close. As you learn the camera you can make mental adjustments. No can do with the S95. How in the world can you make adjustments as you work if the camera LCD isn't fairly accurate?

JR
 

alkemyst

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Well, it works pretty well on other cameras. Most camera LCD's are not individually calibrated, but they should still be fairly close. As you learn the camera you can make mental adjustments. No can do with the S95. How in the world can you make adjustments as you work if the camera LCD isn't fairly accurate?

JR

lolwut...how on earth did those using film survive?

For one to keep going back to the LCD on each shot is going to be ridiculous. Forget any action shots, by the time you review they will be gone.

You can do histograms, bracketing, etc.

The S95 has an LCD that most give very high ratings too.

You may have a dud.
 

JohnnyRebel

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lolwut...how on earth did those using film survive?
Film shooters have less tools than digital shooters have. Live View is another great tool when doing initial setup.

For one to keep going back to the LCD on each shot is going to be ridiculous. Forget any action shots, by the time you review they will be gone.
I was not advocating chimping. I do, however, often spend some time setting up rather than simply blasting away and hoping I can salvage something on the computer later.

You can do histograms, bracketing, etc.
Neither my AE-1 nor my F4 had histograms... How did film shooters survive? WE had to rely on copious note taking and spending a great deal of time learning how to use very specific media.

The S95 has an LCD that most give very high ratings too.
I Googled "s95 great lcd". The first page that came up had these comments:

"Often I've been stunned by the vibrant color on the LCD, only to be a little disappointed when I saw the same image on my computer screen."

He does go on to say:

"The LCD does seem to work very well in sunlight...here in Georgia on a bright sunny day, the Canon S95's LCD is great for framing and reviewing images."

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PS95/PS95A.HTM

You may have a dud.
I'll contact Canon and see if there is anything they can do. I love the ergonomics and would be ecstatic if there was some way to improve the accuracy of the LCD.

JR
 
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Film shooters have less tools than digital shooters have. Live View is another great tool when doing initial setup.


I was not advocating chimping. I do, however, often spend some time setting up rather than simply blasting away and hoping I can salvage something on the computer later.


Neither my AE-1 nor my F4 had histograms... How did film shooters survive? WE had to rely on copious note taking and spending a great deal of time learning how to use very specific media.


I Googled "s95 great lcd". The first page that came up had these comments:

"Often I've been stunned by the vibrant color on the LCD, only to be a little disappointed when I saw the same image on my computer screen."

He does go on to say:

"The LCD does seem to work very well in sunlight...here in Georgia on a bright sunny day, the Canon S95's LCD is great for framing and reviewing images."

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PS95/PS95A.HTM


I'll contact Canon and see if there is anything they can do. I love the ergonomics and would be ecstatic if there was some way to improve the accuracy of the LCD.

JR

If you shoot in RAW, the results will look a bit dull by default. But there's plenty of room to adjust the final result if you shoot RAW.
 

JohnnyRebel

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If you shoot in RAW, the results will look a bit dull by default. But there's plenty of room to adjust the final result if you shoot RAW.

Appreciate the input. I don't shoot RAW, generally speaking. I probably have too high of expectations for a $400 p&s.

I really don't do a whole lot of post production work. I am looking into doing some portrait work, and so I probably need to put the effort into learning what can be done. I have seen some portraits that are very flattering to the subject (not as shot, but as sold) and feel that would go a long way to selling high margin portraits.

I got the S95 to make it easier to have a decent camera with me. I just don't like that it doesn't fit my workflow. Perhaps I've gottan a bit lazy in the developing of new skills.

JR
 

alkemyst

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JohnnyRebel, it sounds like you are trying to get dSLR functionality out of a compact. Setting up shots, checking levels, portrait work is usually the point where the convenience of a pocket cam gives way to the inconvenience of a full rig. I am surprised you haven't noticed the lack of bokah.
 

JohnnyRebel

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JohnnyRebel, it sounds like you are trying to get dSLR functionality out of a compact. Setting up shots, checking levels, portrait work is usually the point where the convenience of a pocket cam gives way to the inconvenience of a full rig. I am surprised you haven't noticed the lack of bokah.

I'm still new to the S95. It is not a complete lack of bokeh, however. At 105mm f/4.9, when fairly close to the subject, it's not bad.
 

alkemyst

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well it's going to be the worst part of everything else you have mentioned in getting great shots.
 

JohnnyRebel

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well it's going to be the worst part of everything else you have mentioned in getting great shots.

I might have been unclear. I am not using the S95 for portraits. It is for snapshots. A camera to have with me 24/7. The DSLR will be used on the job for portraits. I plan to rent a 85mm f/1.4 to try out.

The lack of creamy bokeh on the S95 does not bother me. I do not seek bokeh on every shot. I am always looking to make adjustments based on the image preview.

JR
 

FriedToast

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Will the camera still fit the PSC-900 case with the add-on grip?

JR

Sorry for the late reply. I haven't been around much. I have absolutely no idea if the camera w/ Franiec grip will fit in the PSC-900 case. I don't use a case, so I didn't even know the PSC-900 existed until you mentioned it.

The grip does not extend out further than the retracted barrel, so I can't imagine that it would be a problem unless the case is tight-fitting and formed to the body.
 
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