Samsung Galaxy S II...

Puddle Jumper

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You do realize that Samsung has officially confirmed that the Galaxy S2 will be updated to ICS right?
 

Radeon962

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Because the ICS code still needs to have Samsung Touch Wiz baked into it, tested and then possibly released. Don't hold your breath. The SGS2 is more than fast enough as it is, so I can wait for ICS. Hop over to XDA as odds are very high that a custom Rom with ICS will be available before the actual Samsung OTA update is available.
 

pm

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They are working on it. There's leaks of the official firmware all the time... if you want ICS, the latest release is fairly stable... video playback is slow, SD card reading is flaky and the camera response time is super super slow. But if you want official ICS on an SGS2, head over to sammobile.com. I would bet the official ICS release is less than 2 months away... maybe just one month.

Oh, and if you have an i777 SGS2 then flashing the i9100 firmware is not recommended. I know this from personal experience.
 

poofyhairguy

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PM is right. I expect ICS on the Int. SGS2 within one or two months officially. I expect the US carrier versions to get it officially sometime like mid next year, except for AT&T who will probably get it next December.

As far as ROMs go, already there are Int. ICS ROMs. I expect the AT&T SGS2 and the Sprint SGS2 to get stable-ish ICS ROMs about a month or two after the Int. stable release as both need the source code. I expect the T-Mobile SGS2 and the AT&T LTE SGS2 to get ICS ROMs sometime mid next year when either leaks come or people hack them together from bits of other phones (as that Qualcomm combo is used elsewhere).
 

kyrax12

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PM is right. I expect ICS on the Int. SGS2 within one or two months officially. I expect the US carrier versions to get it officially sometime like mid next year, except for AT&T who will probably get it next December.

As far as ROMs go, already there are Int. ICS ROMs. I expect the AT&T SGS2 and the Sprint SGS2 to get stable-ish ICS ROMs about a month or two after the Int. stable release as both need the source code. I expect the T-Mobile SGS2 and the AT&T LTE SGS2 to get ICS ROMs sometime mid next year when either leaks come or people hack them together from bits of other phones (as that Qualcomm combo is used elsewhere).

mid next year?!!

just to clarify you mean 2012 and not 2013 right... Because if so.... D:
 

sjwaste

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The i777 development community has really seemed to die off in the past month or so. The only guy doing any real kernel development is Entropy, and no one is maintaining their ROMs anymore. I'm pretty disappointed, wishing I had bought the i9100 instead.
 

poofyhairguy

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I think there may be a lul in devs waiting for certain things to be released and cracked so they can start working on ICS ports.

Yep. Basically a lull until Samsung releases ICS for the i9100 with source so devs can use that source.
 
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The i777 development community has really seemed to die off in the past month or so. The only guy doing any real kernel development is Entropy, and no one is maintaining their ROMs anymore. I'm pretty disappointed, wishing I had bought the i9100 instead.
Go figure. These US-specific phones fragment the development community as much as the Phandroids like to say "fragmentation is a myth." I personally like the i777 due to the 4 buttons, but I know that if I were to pick i9100 vs i777, I'd pick i9100 because the fact that ROM development will continue for a long time means a lot more to me.
 

Fire&Blood

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Samsung was the first OEM to get it's hands on ICS. Reading between the lines of what Andy Rubin said about the Nexus process, OEM's aren't allowed to utilize the code on other devices before their contract for the Nexus expires yet the Nexus contractor, Samsung did get have earliest access, they'll be the first to upgrade their pure products and barring a major slowdown by the carriers, even their carrier specific devices should beat all others to official ICS updates as well. Without discussing actual necessity of the update and the size of demand for them, I doubt the updates will be synchronized across all carriers, some will get it sooner than others so DLeRium's point is somewhat valid.

Being a carrier specific HD2 owner, I wouldn't be too concerned about the decrease in ROM development. I've seen these silence before the storm situations few times, each occurred with major Android updates.

I think a minority of SGS2 owners is simply impatient. There are other, much needier and less valuable devices out there. Also, comparing G Nexus SoC vs. the Exynos and considering ICS's arguably better efficiency, I have a hunch the wait for official Exynos version will be worthwhile. On the other hand, the Skyrocket, the AT&T Note and the T-Mobile SGS2 possibly face 2 handicaps. Samsung will optimize ICS for their current bestsellers, the Exynos devices. Second handicap could be that the better implementation of GPU acceleration in ICS benefits the Exynos more than the arguably weaker Adreno. The gap should widen more between the 2 Note versions due to higher res. Even if a HTC device receives ICS first, as unlikely as that may be, Samsung wouldn't be far behind.


Sorry for hijacking but I think it's more appropriate to ask here rather than start a thread: I'm on T-Mobile (wifi access 75% of time) and considering buying a Exynos device, either Note or SGS2. How much should I pay for a used one and where to look besides CL?
TIA
 
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Sorry for hijacking but I think it's more appropriate to ask here rather than start a thread: I'm on T-Mobile (wifi access 75% of time) and considering buying a Exynos device, either Note or SGS2. How much should I pay for a used one and where to look besides CL?
TIA

Swappa.com
 

gorcorps

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Samsung was the first OEM to get it's hands on ICS. Reading between the lines of what Andy Rubin said about the Nexus process, OEM's aren't allowed to utilize the code on other devices before their contract for the Nexus expires yet the Nexus contractor, Samsung did get have earliest access, they'll be the first to upgrade their pure products and barring a major slowdown by the carriers, even their carrier specific devices should beat all others to official ICS updates as well. Without discussing actual necessity of the update and the size of demand for them, I doubt the updates will be synchronized across all carriers, some will get it sooner than others so DLeRium's point is somewhat valid.

Being a carrier specific HD2 owner, I wouldn't be too concerned about the decrease in ROM development. I've seen these silence before the storm situations few times, each occurred with major Android updates.

I think a minority of SGS2 owners is simply impatient. There are other, much needier and less valuable devices out there. Also, comparing G Nexus SoC vs. the Exynos and considering ICS's arguably better efficiency, I have a hunch the wait for official Exynos version will be worthwhile. On the other hand, the Skyrocket, the AT&T Note and the T-Mobile SGS2 possibly face 2 handicaps. Samsung will optimize ICS for their current bestsellers, the Exynos devices. Second handicap could be that the better implementation of GPU acceleration in ICS benefits the Exynos more than the arguably weaker Adreno. The gap should widen more between the 2 Note versions due to higher res. Even if a HTC device receives ICS first, as unlikely as that may be, Samsung wouldn't be far behind.


Sorry for hijacking but I think it's more appropriate to ask here rather than start a thread: I'm on T-Mobile (wifi access 75% of time) and considering buying a Exynos device, either Note or SGS2. How much should I pay for a used one and where to look besides CL?
TIA

I think that's probably the biggest issue... patience. I flashed my phone to the Unnamed rom almost immediately, but they've released several versions since then. I haven't bothered with them because I'm perfectly content with how it is now (aside from battery life) and I'd rather just wait for a full blown ICS release. It's going to be slow, but it'll happen. I also refuse to jump on half working CM9 ports that don't even have the stock features working right. If it can't even do everything the stock rom does then why bother?
 
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But forget whether SGS2 owners are impatient or not, let's look at how long it took for Froyo and Gingerbread to get delivered across to SGS1 users in the US.... The i9000 got updates rather quickly, though Froyo took a little longer, but none of this was an issue if you looked at how long it took the Captivate, Vibrant, Fascinate, etc. to get updates.

So yes while the official i9100 SGS2 ICS update isn't out yet, and everyone should calm down, I wouldn't be surprised if the ICS update dropped tomorrow and the US SGS2 owners have to wait another 6 months before they announce a release only to get pulled by AT&T the next day because idiots whine about bricked phones...
 

Fire&Blood

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But forget whether SGS2 owners are impatient or not, let's look at how long it took for Froyo and Gingerbread to get delivered across to SGS1 users in the US.... The i9000 got updates rather quickly, though Froyo took a little longer, but none of this was an issue if you looked at how long it took the Captivate, Vibrant, Fascinate, etc. to get updates.

So yes while the official i9100 SGS2 ICS update isn't out yet, and everyone should calm down, I wouldn't be surprised if the ICS update dropped tomorrow and the US SGS2 owners have to wait another 6 months before they announce a release only to get pulled by AT&T the next day because idiots whine about bricked phones...
That is a possible scenario. And if it occurs like you say, if the i777 owners have to wait for ICS 6 months longer than intl owners, we have to point the finger at the carriers. Still, the arguably best Gingerbread device is better off than others.

On a completely unrelated note, I am seeing used units in the $350-400 range, looks very good to me.
 

poofyhairguy

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So if you have an AT&T i777 SGS2 there is a way to use a mostly functional ICS for the device. The only issue is that the regular capacitive buttons don't work 100%, but you can utilize onscreen buttons Nexus-style instead.

You need clockwork on the device. First of all, you need to nandroid backup. Please.

Second wipe /system /data /cache

Then flash this ROM:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1451346

Then before reboot flash this kernel:

http://goo-inside.me/devs/task650/i777-ICS-Kernel.zip

Then reboot.

When you reboot the buttons don't work. So restart the device (I used the toggle in the notification area) into clockwork and flash this package to add buttons onscreen:

http://www.mediafire.com/?vtl9wc74cvdn766

Don't get cute and do it the same time as the other two. Be sure to have one boot into the OS and then back to clockwork before you flash that buttons package.

Last thing, put this phone apk into /system/app using Root Explorer or something like that:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22996763&postcount=181

Change owner (root, root) and set permissions (rw-r--r--)!

Then you should have an almost ASOP ICS that runs very well. The buttons will get fixed when the source code from Samsung for the i9100 is released but until then at least it gives us i777 users something to play with.
 
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shrug. given the state of CM9 even on my Nexus S, i don't use it.

I've seen the issues with the i9100 and I stay far away. I'd say you should only play around if you really want a buggy OS. Definitely not a daily driver.
 

pm

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Thanks, Poofy.

My iPhone 4 is sold so my i777 is my main phone now and I took your advice and put "Unnamed ROM" on it about 3 weeks ago and I haven't messed with it since. It's been stable for me - the browser force-closes occassionally but that's about it - and so I've been very happy. I have a bunch of business trips over the next month and a half and so I'm not messing with my phone at all from here on out.

But thanks for the instructions.
 
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