No she was under arrest for either the illegal lane change or arguing with cop. He said she was being arrested before she got out of car but didn't say why when she asked.
Cop got pissed when she would not stop smoking
Prior drinking arrests have nothing to do this with this case at all. She wasnt arrested for drinking and driving. She was arrested for kicking that cop. A cop which was acting ridiculous. She supposedly hung herself 3 days later. Which again, has nothing to do with previous drinking arrests.
What is your personal take on the behavior of the officer in that video?
Empowered cop with an attitude problem and an apparently uncooperative "victim" behaving erratically.
What could go wrong?
PSA: comply with police orders and complain about them later on after you have been sent on your merry way.
That's a lot easier to say when you're not of the race that faces this choice far more often than you. For you it's a rare and momentary annoyance that you comply with due to convenience rather than a safety concern. For others this occurs far more frequently, the same assumption of safety isn't always there, and the compliance might be to a steady diet of humiliations rather than just "show me your ID" which in turn leaves them resentful and willing to push back.
Not saying it's the right choice to act how this woman did, but frustrated people who feel like they're being repeatedly targeted don't always act logically in their own self-interest.
I watched that video last night.
Her color had nothing to do with her arrest.
Anyone who behaved like she did in the video would have been arrested.
Why was she pulled over? Illegal lane change
Was the officer's behavior unusual? No. No surprises in behavior or initial questioning. All appearances indicate an everyday interaction.
Why was she given a ticket? Surprise surprise. She wasn't. She was only going to get a warning.
She broke a law and she takes it out on the cop who is enforcing the law. Her agitation is not uncommon and cops are used to dealing with people who have trouble being adults.
So the big "Refusing to put out a cigarette" issue.
He asked her to put out her cigarette and she turns on full idiot mode.
That right there is reason enough to ask someone to step out of the vehicle after that person has clearly broken the law. Asking someone to step out of the vehicle does not mean "You are getting arrested". The officer may have wanted her to exit the vehicle to discuss the issue, to either de-escalate the encounter (Calm her down first before letting her go so she doesn't end up driving like she acted) or, since turning full idiot during a police encounter could mean something fishy is going on. It could have been to be a dick right back to her prior to sending her on her way (I was just going to give you a warning but now you are going to sit here while I give you a ticket)
Getting her out of the vehicle allows a quick check of the inside of the car and also a check of her person for any signs of illegal crap.
She already broke one law. She's already passed the point of reasonable behavior.
When it gets to the point where you are fighting with a cop, or resisting a cop removing you from a vehicle you have crossed the line. If he has to pull you out of the car then yeah, you fucked up. If the whitest man in America acted the way Brown did, they'd be in jail waiting to post bond as well.
I refuse to classify her arrest as racial. Especially since she was only going to get a warning for an illegal lane change.
The narrative being pushed is that a Black woman was asked to exit the vehicle because she made an illegal lane change.
100% Wrong.
She was asked to leave the vehicle because her behavior was beyond that of a reasonable person.
That's a lot easier to say when you're not of the race that faces this choice far more often than you. For you it's a rare and momentary annoyance that you comply with due to convenience rather than a safety concern. For others this occurs far more frequently, the same assumption of safety isn't always there, and the compliance might be to a steady diet of humiliations rather than just "show me your ID" which in turn leaves them resentful and willing to push back.
Not saying it's the right choice to act how this woman did, but frustrated people who feel like they're being repeatedly targeted don't always act logically in their own self-interest.
Sandra Bland could have just took the warning and went on her merry way, but she decided to act like an asshole and took it personal. The cop, also appeared to take it personal and acted like an asshole right back at her. Sandra's decision to be non-compliant and then physically resistive has nothing to do with her race, and it's about her personality.
Nothing was confirmed to be illegal. The sheriff's office said procedures weren't followed correctly but that doesn't equate to illegal activity.
PSA: comply with police orders and complain about them later on after you have been sent on your merry way.
Oh yes, we all just have spare time to spend in jail while some fucktard with a badge gets his jollies. Then we can spend years suing the state, losing more of our lives to something that should never have happened in the first place. That certainly won't affect anybody's spouse, kids, family, pets, or work. Sitting in jail? Pffft, that's nothing.
You do realize that's practically the definition of a police state, don't you?
Cop did not act like a professional. He already said she looked aggravated and she responded yes. His job at that point was to de-escalate. Instead he did the opposite.
That illegal lane change did happen but was prompted by cop following her and she forgot to signal. She mentioned this on the tape.
I've seen plenty recordings of people flipping out on cops. Unless there is risk of injury they take it write the ticket and move on. I don't think she was pulled over for being black but cop would likely react differently because of "mouthy black woman giving me shit"
I picked this one because its funny but also shows how cop using his head keeps situation under control and owns the driver in a passive way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXY2fImfr7Y
She wouldn't have even made it to jail if she just listened and complied.
The problem is that most people equate the word "compliance" with the cliche "comply or die"
when it's really, "Comply and go home safely"...
I find the whole Sandra Bland case sad and strange, and I am gratified the DoJ is investigating it. I wish she had never been arrested in the first place. She and the officer each could have handled this situation better. She could have simply politely cooperated, and he could have given her more room to express herself without escalating the situation.
True.
But word to the wise: don't express yourself to a cop. (Ref: "...anything you say can and will be used against you...")
Cops are trained to listen to everything you say. They want to catch you in a lie, catch you admitting guilt, catch you saying anything they can use. So it's best to express yourself elsewhere when dealing with the police. Keep the interactions as short as possible.
Ignore everything else where it suits you? She had previous drug arrests. She was also possibility mentally ill. Both are pertinent to this case.
:thumbsdown: Nobody should be arrested for having a small amount of pot.
I haven't followed this much could someone explain why she was in jail for three days? Was it for kicking the cop or was it to prove a point?
I have read the jail uses a motion camera and apparently its easy to trip but nobody was seen going into her cell.
About being rude to the cop that shouldn't be a reason to trump up crap to arrest someone and I have a feeling she was a depressed person.
I haven't followed this much could someone explain why she was in jail for three days?