If she was from out-of-state and just moving there I suspect that was a big problem.
I've known some bail bondsmen and if you're from out of town (i.e., no local residence an job) you're likely not getting bail from them. They had no interest in looking for you if you failed to show. How do you easily find someone who's fled and is really from out of town?
I suppose some bail bondsmen will take a car as collateral, but I doubt whether it's quick, easy and doable if your jail.
You're from TX so you'd know their laws better than I, but here's what I came up with in NC as far as the requirements:
I don't see that as feasible solution, much less one that can be accomplished on a weekend etc.
As far as bail bondsmen "hovering" around jails - yeah they do. Jails around here have a bulletin board with bail bondsmen advertisements/cards/contact info. The police will allow you a call to contact one. My guess is given her situation (from out-of-town, possibly not yet employed, likely didn't have her car title handy in her back pocket) they weren't willing to help.
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To a lot of people in this forum she doesn't. Remember she was acting "uppity"
If that is what 'uppity' meant you would have a point. That is your definition, not a dictionary definition. I think the term you are struggling to find there is "Bolshie". That captures the 'disobedient' bit.Questioning a cop or being "uppity !=disobeying/being disorderly
Questioning a cop or being "uppity !=disobeying/being disorderly
You can disagree with an officer. For example, if an officer asks you to take a field sobriety test, you can refuse. It's not hard. However, if your response is "YO FUCK YOU MOTHA FUCKA CRACKA ASS" and give him the middle finger...
Understand? It's not a hard concept, but you never know with people like yourself...
Most people here have seen the tape. You do know that didn't happen
Most people here have seen the tape. You do know that didn't happen
If that is what 'uppity' meant you would have a point. That is your definition, not a dictionary definition. I think the term you are struggling to find there is "Bolshie". That captures the 'disobedient' bit.
'Uppity' according to the Oxford English Dictionary, (the ultimate authority for English usage), actually means:
"Above oneself, self-important, uppish".
In the context of trans-ethnic relations it has been used for over a hundred years to refer to black or 'mixed-race' people who dared to presume that they had the significance or status of their white superiors. It is all about power differentials in the era of slavery.
Have you not read any Mark Twain (Samuel L. Clemens)?
She could have been out in a matter of hours, all it took was for someone to post her bail.
I've heard some claim she couldn't have been bailed out over the weekend, bail bondsmen operate 24/7/365 in the state of Texas. Most people post bail in a few hours.
Guess you have been paying attention as bail was already set at $5,000, she/her family/friends needed to post a $500 bond to secure her release. She could have been out in a couple of hours after the bond was met.
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Three possibilities. First is that her relatives and friends were tired of bailing her out. Remember that she had had several legal run-ins, citations and arrests in the preceding year, and while one can continue loving a hot mess, after awhile one gets tired of supporting their bad behavior. Second is that she was too embarrassed to ask for help. Third is that her friends and relatives collectively could not come up with five hundred dollars.
Questioning a cop or being "uppity !=disobeying/being disorderly
You can disagree with an officer. For example, if an officer asks you to take a field sobriety test, you can refuse. It's not hard. However, if your response is "YO FUCK YOU MOTHA FUCKA CRACKA ASS" and give him the middle finger...
Understand? It's not a hard concept, but you never know with people like yourself...
lol just stop, you've already wimped out of plenty of debates here, so just stop pretending being rude to a cop justifies their subsequent bad behavior, it makes you look like a clueless asshat. Just because you live in Texas doesn't give you an excuse for being dumb.
Something a worker of mine was saying today was that the phone systems in jail are all fucked up, complicated and (in actual jail, not the holding tank) very expensive. Like more expensive than cell phone minutes used to be back when they were relatively new, I want to say he said 35 cents a minute which is doubly absurd considering its a landline. Evidently the ones in his holding cell that were free would only connect to landlines. The ones in jail, assuming you have money in your account, will connect to anything but you gotta have money in your account.
Then there is the smartphone thing. How many phone numbers do you remember these days versus back in the beeper days? I personally don't memorize many phone numbers at all these days. Then half the people that I know, including myself, don't even have landlines anymore. I got tired of paying $30 a month for the sheer pleasure of getting telemarketing calls, everyone else just called my cell.
Folks, we have another fine example that will be the star headliner for another thread like this at a later date :biggrin:
It's just as relevant as blaming an officer for hanging yourself in a cell?
Here it's relevance? She hanged herself 3 days later after being jailed. She could have been bailed out on Day 1 and be alive today.
How is that not relevant?
I fail to see how you fail to see that the absurdity of her unjust and demeaning incarceration, for changing lanes without signalling, (for God's sake!) lead to her suicidal despair after Encinia threatened to "yank her out" of her car and threatened to "light her up" with a taser. Are you real?
The glaringly obvious reason she did not want to get out of the safety of her own vehicle is that she knew she would be chained-up if she did.
He pulled her out, ....and she was duly chained-up. Just as she feared.
She defended her innocence, she demanded to know why she was being picked on.
He said that anything he demanded was a "lawful order". He will soon discover that cops don't make the law that way.
He could not answer that simple question. He escalated this case to a gross injustice for the most trivial of reasons. He knew he had to win. In a sense he won the battle but lost the war.
Another sadistic 'bully cop', how many of them have we had this year?
She was thrown to the ground, you can hear the ratchet clicks as he squeezes the handcuffs tighter behind her. (Listen to the sound on the video). She protests, just as you would.
She is dead, his sorry, sadistic, career progression is probably now limited.
If your sight has failed I feel deeply sorry for you.
What the fuck is your problem you stupid illiterate piece of shit?
What the fuck is your problem you stupid illiterate piece of shit?
To Moonbeam (re:617)
Should I offer him an apology or will he just try to use it to stamp on my face again?
Aaaaaand if you watch the video, you would see that he WAS going to give her a warning. But someone had to not comply and get her stupid self in the back of a cruiser.And if Officer Fuckface hadn't gone all power trippy on her, she wouldn't have had to post bail because she'd have driven away with a ticket. Instead, Officer Douchenozzle races up on her and tailgates her, then when she gets out of his way he has a manufactured excuse to "increase revenue", then gets his fucking panties in a bunch because she's smoking.
So yeah, bail isn't really the key point in all of this.
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And if Officer Fuckface hadn't gone all power trippy on her, she wouldn't have had to post bail because she'd have driven away with a ticket. Instead, Officer Douchenozzle races up on her and tailgates her, then when she gets out of his way he has a manufactured excuse to "increase revenue", then gets his fucking panties in a bunch because she's smoking.
So yeah, bail isn't really the key point in all of this.
Aaaaaand if you watch the video, you would see that he WAS going to give her a warning. But someone had to not comply and get her stupid self in the back of a cruiser.
Shoulda woulda coulda is a stupid argument.
All she had to have done was keep her mouth shut and not generate an attitude. A warning was all she was going to get.
Because she could not keep her mouth shut and listen, she escalated the incident and ended up in a worse situation.
From there, herself, family and friends finished off her decision.
Oh right, she didn't comply with his order to stop smoking. Smoking which had nothing to do with her being pulled over.
Clearly if an officer tells you to bend over and kiss his ass, not complying is grounds for a beatdown.
Why are some people such sycophants when it comes to cops? Were you a-feared of this scary woman and her lane change? Is this cop protecting you from her violent act of getting out of the cops way?