But buying AMD shares is a good bet though, dirt cheap atm, and with AMD / Radeon hardware in every next-gen console the shares will be flying by this time next year.
Make some money and you can buy a new GPU with it.
Wow you made a lot of assumptions based one me stating if AMD prices their 9970 >$600, they lost me as a customer...check this out:
Me: How much is the 9970?
AMD Rep: $650
Me: Ouch, you lost me as a customer.
Or does this work better for you
Me: Ouch, you lost that sale to me. (Which also implies "you lost me a customer".)
No where did I say if the card dropped under $600 they wouldn't regain me as a customer. In fact, I'd buy it the moment it dropped under $600. Above that, no sale.
EDIT: Since I'm thinking about my original post, read it again - there is a clear statement about what AMD would have to do to regain me a customer.
>$600 - no sale
<$600 - sale
I didn't mention any other card because I'd specifically want the top tier single GPU ATI/AMD card as I've been buying so for over the last decade.
What are you talking about? I bought my first Radeon HD 7970 at the MSRP of $550. Clearly I have no issue paying money for something I find value in, however, I will not go along with the AMD/Nvidia thinking they can charge, in my opinion, excessively for their products.
As a customer, I draw a line.
What is all this gibber for? Considering my statement was a simple opinion of my personal preference for GPU prices, you are sure trying hard to imply something.
I'm not a shareholder, I don't give a flying-squirrel what they have to gain, nor AMD as a corporation. I'm a customer and I set my budget. You seem to have some kind of issue with this, perhaps you're a shareholder and you have a financial responsibility to tell me I'm wrong.
Whatever your reasoning, it makes no sense, you are arguing against my opinion on where a GPU price should be for my buying habits and beyond that - I have no idea why you're even going to such lengths.
But buying AMD shares is a good bet though, dirt cheap atm, and with AMD / Radeon hardware in every next-gen console the shares will be flying by this time next year.
Make some money and you can buy a new GPU with it.
There is memory garbage collection problem. Its actually unrelated to crossfire, it causes stutters on a single card as well as in crossfire. That fix was promised back in December when tech report broke the news on the 7950 and the problems they had with stuttering with that card. AMD in response promised a garbage collection rewrite was one part of the problem and a fix would be at least 3 months.
People have so far I think assumed the frame metering fix for crossfire includes that change, but I don't think it does or AMD would be saying so. These two changes are completely different things aimed at wildly different problems and causes of problems.
Much of the issues seen in December were dealt with on an individual game basis. They tweaked some buffers and such and the reviews that measured these things then started showing it was now fixed. The underlying issue however remains, just apparently not as severely in those games that were more carefully tweaked.
Care to explain where there is any single GPU stuttering? Because the only trace of it I have seen in any reviews is Far Cry 3.
Radeon X
Radeon UHD
Radeon X
Radeon 4K
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C'mon people, speculate, it's getting boring in here
I think he was refering to the original techreport 7950 vs 660ti review where the 7950 had studdering issues in most all the modern games (at that time). I believe AMD has since fixed those major issuesCare to explain where there is any single GPU stuttering? Because the only trace of it I have seen in any reviews is Far Cry 3.
World of Warcraft: MoP has stutter on both GTX 680 and HD 7970 from my testings.
I'm not sure if it is a CPU bottleneck issue, but FPS meter read 60, turn off v-sync FPS meters >100 and still very visible stutter. More so on Radeon HD 7970 than GTX 680, though.
I always believed it to be a latency issue due to the many players across many miles. Your CPU may or may not be contributing. I dont know any WOW player that doesnt experience it at some point. Wow multiplayer is a massively data dependent and it is waiting on data most of the time. Its impossible to predict and pace in a perfect manner. If the data comes in late and is processed you will have noticeable latency and it will vary depending on what has to be done once the data comes in. I dont know if there is anyway to 100% "fix" the inherent issue.
Even with the ultra fastest CPU you will bog down in heavy multiplayer scenarios. And in most of the "bogging" the cpu is waiting for something.
I think he was refering to the original techreport 7950 vs 660ti review where the 7950 had studdering issues in most all the modern games (at that time). I believe AMD has since fixed those major issues
I understand all this and I've tested removing the world's population by running into an instance. Sure, latency is still an issue so I tried other options.
This issue is specific to DX11 from my experimentation. I got no "stutter" switching to the DX9 option.
Clearly there is an issue with the game, but also the hardware. You'd figure the faster computer (mine) would have less visible stutter than the slower computer (her's) but my Radeon would stutter like I was in the 30-40FPS while her's would look like a clear memory delay with a blip of non-smoothness.
If I had to choose, right now, for my WoW experience I'd go with a GeForce card. Overall her performance is better than mine and this is me using both computers for similar tasks.
It is interesting that you have first hand experience to share because I have always heard people saying something like this. So maybe there is a reason?
I think as far as i have seen it, If you randomly ask any WOW player out there a recommendation for a graphics card the chances are high they will spout out an Nvidia card.
I guess its not too surprising. Its the rule of thumb, the games you play the most can determine what brand of GPU you buy. This is just a game that nvidia seems to do better in.
As for CF, i hear many people claiming that its 100% fine/perfect but i am very skeptical. I hear just as many people who have/had CF say its not worth it and they really have no reason to lie.
I still think a single very powerful solution is better than both CF and SLI as far as hassle free gaming goes. If your into benching and the numbers, more the merrier. CF away Full steam ahead.
Oh, how dramatic you are. Have a nice day.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/graphi...D_Hawaii_Graphics_Processor_in_September.html
Release is impossible before October.
Dont worry 3D, I understand what you were getting at. Apparently it went over railven head...
Dont worry 3D, I understand what you were getting at. Apparently it went over railven head...
So how I highly doubt this, but have at it boss!