Sarah Palin's foreign policy experience

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bctbct

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Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
We simply aren't going to police the world and be able to fight terrorism at the same time. Pick your battles.

If we're gonna go after Russia might as well put China on the list too for what they have done to Taiwan.

add NK and Iran
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: bctbct
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: bctbct
Not to sound to melodramtic, but we currently face several political conflicts throughout the world. We need a level head diplomat to earn our respect back.

Palin said today that we may have to make war with Russia.

She is not off to a good start.....

why? we may have to.

what would be the appropriate response if Russia were to invade a NATO ally?

Geogia is not a member of NATO

hence the hypothetical nature of her response.
 

bctbct

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: bctbct
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: bctbct
Not to sound to melodramtic, but we currently face several political conflicts throughout the world. We need a level head diplomat to earn our respect back.

Palin said today that we may have to make war with Russia.

She is not off to a good start.....

why? we may have to.

what would be the appropriate response if Russia were to invade a NATO ally?

Geogia is not a member of NATO

hence the hypothetical nature of her response.

hypothetically speaking she should have said that she would labor to no end to bring about a peaceful end of the conflict.

thats the difference between a diplomat and a maverick

 

skyking

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: deftron
Supposedly, "you can see Russia from land in Alaska"



She told Charlie Gibson that tonight


Good enough for me

I assume you're joking.

Regardless of how it may sound, it is true. Little Diomede island is US, Big Diomede is russian and the two islands are a few miles apart.
Of course you can't see the mainland of either country from the other
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: ntdz
What was JFK's foreign policy experience? How about Reagan? And Clinton? Oh wait...how can a GOVERNOR possibly have foreign policy experience? Jesus Christ, give me a break

Those 3 had all distinguished themselves beyond just their political leadership before even running for the White House.

The Founding Fathers intended for the VP to be more than just a running mate or political gimmick. In fact, originally the office of VP was intended to go to the Presidential candidate who lost the election. This didn't work out (for obvious reasons) and was short-lived, but tradition has since held that a Presidential candidate's VP pick should be someone otherwise capable of running for the Presidency on their own. Which is why VP's are usually chosen from among one of the candidates who lost in their party's primaries. Or if not that, then a very highly respected member of the party.

Palin meets NONE of those criteria. This is why the Democrats are upset. McCain's choice was reckless. Considering his age, it shows an almost callous indifference to the good of this country, in preference for a gimmick running mate that will win him fans amongst the conservative right and the religious fundamentalists who want to the govt inside our bedrooms. In fact, it seems like the only reason she was picked is because she is one of those religious extremists.
And yeah, that offends a lot of people. McCain did hit a nerve. He just told everyone that he is willing to put ideology ahead of country, if that's what it takes for him to win the election. That so many are cheering that is quite chilling to the rest of us.
 

gevorg

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Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
Neither Reagan, Clinton, or JFK ever said shit as stupid as, "Well you can see Russia from Alaska", in response to their experience in foreign affairs. That's the difference. If you don't get that, you're an idiot.....or a Republican.

 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: OneOfTheseDays
They need to keep their focus laser-beamed on John McCain. Obama can and will win this election if it is truly between him and McCain. The GOP is smart in putting Palin at the front of the ticket, they know full well McCain stands no chance of winning this thing by himself.


Lol

I kind of like talking about Palin, she should be on top of the ticket.


 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
I kind of like talking about Palin, she should be on top of the ticket.

I rest my case.

You would never have voted for her in the primaries, especially when the Pubs had so many other more qualified candidates running (I liked Romney BTW), so don't kid yourself.
 

Painman

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Originally posted by: Vic
Those 3 had all distinguished themselves beyond just their political leadership before even running for the White House.

The Founding Fathers intended for the VP to be more than just a running mate or political gimmick. In fact, originally the office of VP was intended to go to the Presidential candidate who lost the election. This didn't work out (for obvious reasons) and was short-lived, but tradition has since held that a Presidential candidate's VP pick should be someone otherwise capable of running for the Presidency on their own. Which is why VP's are usually chosen from among one of the candidates who lost in their party's primaries. Or if not that, then a very highly respected member of the party.

Palin meets NONE of those criteria. This is why the Democrats are upset. McCain's choice was reckless. Considering his age, it shows an almost callous indifference to the good of this country, in preference for a gimmick running mate that will win him fans amongst the conservative right and the religious fundamentalists who want to the govt inside our bedrooms. In fact, it seems like the only reason she was picked is because she is one of those religious extremists.
And yeah, that offends a lot of people. McCain did hit a nerve. He just told everyone that he is willing to put ideology ahead of country, if that's what it takes for him to win the election. That so many are cheering that is quite chilling to the rest of us.

:thumbsup:

And they do it all while standing in front of a placard that says, "Country First"

Same shit, different assholes.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Budmantom
I kind of like talking about Palin, she should be on top of the ticket.

I rest my case.

You would never have voted for her in the primaries, especially when the Pubs had so many other more qualified candidates running (I liked Romney BTW), so don't kid yourself.




Romney is a Mormon not communist You're not say you would have voted for Romney?


 

wwswimming

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limit of Epsilon as Epsilon goes to zero.

about the same as her knowledge of history.

got to keep religious kooks away from the nuclear weapons.

"Iraq is a holy war". God, is she stupid.
 

sportage

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You know, I got to put politics and election games aside for this comment?

I was truly shocked in horror this person is even being considered for VP and absolutely terrified should she actually become president.
Her interview, what I seen of it, was shockingly eye opening.

I don?t know where to start...
She not only looked clueless when asked questions, Charlie had to explain to her how to answer the questions he just asked.

I could go on and on, but I just want to submit this to Palin supporters and republicans...

Come on now, look yourself in the mirror and ask "is this really what you want to bring this country to?? We're talking your kids. Your families. The government. Today?s, and tomorrows and just life. Are you really ready to put your well being in the lap of this soccer mom? (and I say that with all do respect to her)

And also ask yourself, "what does this say about McCain?s judgment?"

I'm not posting this as a democrat or with a political slant one way or the other.
I just simply am in shock and near horror we would gamble the farm
on this person(s). And I do mean gamble .

I will give her credit for being a great mom, a good person, and even a good governor.
But please.... really.... Have the people that are willing to place her in the VP chair of this great country gone totally insane? Am I living in a twilight zone TV episode?

Ok, maybe you don?t like Obama. Maybe you dread his being president.
But PLEASE do not do this with Palin. Pick someone else with experience.
I would even prefer GW Bush getting a third term, before this happening to our great country. And I despise GW Bush. But I would GLADLY vote for Bush before living the reality of Palin as our VP, or God forbid, President.
I pray God brings sanity to America before November 4th.
I'm in just shock, total shock.

Yes I posted this is another thread also. I just had to repeat what I said.
 

Goosemaster

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: ntdz
What was JFK's foreign policy experience? How about Reagan? And Clinton? Oh wait...how can a GOVERNOR possibly have foreign policy experience? Jesus Christ, give me a break

Those 3 had all distinguished themselves beyond just their political leadership before even running for the White House.

The Founding Fathers intended for the VP to be more than just a running mate or political gimmick. In fact, originally the office of VP was intended to go to the Presidential candidate who lost the election. This didn't work out (for obvious reasons) and was short-lived, but tradition has since held that a Presidential candidate's VP pick should be someone otherwise capable of running for the Presidency on their own. Which is why VP's are usually chosen from among one of the candidates who lost in their party's primaries. Or if not that, then a very highly respected member of the party.

Palin meets NONE of those criteria. This is why the Democrats are upset. McCain's choice was reckless. Considering his age, it shows an almost callous indifference to the good of this country, in preference for a gimmick running mate that will win him fans amongst the conservative right and the religious fundamentalists who want to the govt inside our bedrooms. In fact, it seems like the only reason she was picked is because she is one of those religious extremists.
And yeah, that offends a lot of people. McCain did hit a nerve. He just told everyone that he is willing to put ideology ahead of country, if that's what it takes for him to win the election. That so many are cheering that is quite chilling to the rest of us.

That right there explains how I feel as well.
 

Corbett

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Why are the democrats giving Palin such a hard time about her foreign policy experience while Obama has the same lack of foreign policy experience?

Or was that trip to Europe and the M/E all he needed to claim he now has some?

Besides, McCain is the one running for President, not Palin.

And dont try to say McCain is on his deathbed, look at his mom for God's sake, shes like 93 years old.

On top of that, McCain is like a freaking cat, he's already had like 6 chances to die in his life already and has made it through some of the most unbelievably near-death experiences. IE - POW, accidental missile hitting his ship and he jumped out of that plane, cancer just to name a few. The dude is like the grim reaper's worst enemy!
 

Jack Flash

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Originally posted by: Corbett
Why are the democrats giving Palin such a hard time about her foreign policy experience while Obama has the same lack of foreign policy experience?

Or was that trip to Europe and the M/E all he needed to claim he now has some?

Besides, McCain is the one running for President, not Palin.

And dont try to say McCain is on his deathbed, look at his mom for God's sake, shes like 93 years old.

On top of that, McCain is like a freaking cat, he's already had like 6 chances to die in his life already and has made it through some of the most unbelievably near-death experiences. IE - POW, accidental missile hitting his ship and he jumped out of that plane, cancer just to name a few. The dude is like the grim reaper's worst enemy!

I suppose it's the claim that Palin has foreign policy experience for bordering Canada and being across the pond from Russia. That's just stupid.

And what is bad about Obama being wildly popular in Europe? You scared the US might be respected diplomatically again? Or, do you want to remain the bully of the world?
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: Jack Flash
I suppose it's the claim that Palin has foreign policy experience for bordering Canada and being across the pond from Russia. That's just stupid.

I actually agree with you on this. I DO think its dumb to think Sarah Palin has foreign policy experience because Alaska is close to Russia.

Originally posted by: Jack Flash
And what is bad about Obama being wildly popular in Europe? You scared the US might be respected diplomatically again? Or, do you want to remain the bully of the world?

I never said ANYTHING about Obama being wildly popular is Europe, what I said was that liberals here like to pretend that he has all the foreign policy experience he needs now that he has made a trip to Europe and the M/E.
 

Jack Flash

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Originally posted by: Corbett
I never said ANYTHING about Obama being wildly popular is Europe, what I said was that liberals here like to pretend that he has all the foreign policy experience he needs now that he has made a trip to Europe and the M/E.

My mistake, then. I do think all lack significant foreign policy experience, but I really think it's not a huge issue.

The job of the President, in my opinion, is to represent the American people and government. I think his popularity around the world is a great step towards that.
 

Stuxnet

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Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: loki8481
why does a vice president need extensive foreign policy experience?

that's the president's job (unless you're Obama or Bush and need to rely on your handlers... er, VP's)? I'm drawing a blank when I'm trying to remember what John Edwards' foreign policy experience was in '04...

I don't think she has vast foreign policy experience, but I don't see it as a major issue at the bottom of the ticket.
Have you not realized that if McCain dies, she's the President of the U.S.?
And you realize that Obama is the President from day one.

And 18+ million have already decided they're ok with this.

How many have stated their confidence in SP??????

Since McCain and Palin are leading in pretty much all of the polls, I'd say 18+ million... +1
 

theeedude

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She's already itching to start a NATO war with Russia over Georgia and Ukraine, something that US has been trying to avoid for 50 years, because it could escalate out of control and there would be no winners.
Do you really want Sarah Palin making these decisions for our country? Because if not, you cannot vote for McCain + Palin ticket.
 

Pens1566

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Originally posted by: jbourne77
Originally posted by: Pens1566
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: sierrita
Originally posted by: loki8481
why does a vice president need extensive foreign policy experience?

that's the president's job (unless you're Obama or Bush and need to rely on your handlers... er, VP's)? I'm drawing a blank when I'm trying to remember what John Edwards' foreign policy experience was in '04...

I don't think she has vast foreign policy experience, but I don't see it as a major issue at the bottom of the ticket.
Have you not realized that if McCain dies, she's the President of the U.S.?
And you realize that Obama is the President from day one.

And 18+ million have already decided they're ok with this.

How many have stated their confidence in SP??????

Since McCain and Palin are leading in pretty much all of the polls, I'd say 18+ million... +1

Until she ACTUALLY gets real votes .... and I mean more than 1000 in a mayoral election or whatever she got in her gubernatorial election. So far, she's down by at least 18 million by my count.
 

Corbett

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Originally posted by: senseamp
She's already itching to start a NATO war with Russia over Georgia and Ukraine, something that US has been trying to avoid for 50 years, because it could escalate out of control and there would be no winners.
Do you really want Sarah Palin making these decisions for our country? Because if not, you cannot vote for McCain + Palin ticket.

Can you come up with a single original thought? Palin doesnt want to see a war started. She wouldnt have a choice due to NATO rules you hack.
 
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