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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Brackis
I applied to much harder schools with my 1530 and 3.0 unweighted, over 800 hours of community service.

Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Brown
Penn
Cornell
Stanford
Cal
UCLA
Northwestern
Vanderbilt

Thus why I expect 0/11

I'm guessing you can expect to hear from atleast UCLA Vandy NW Brown Cornell. Probably not Princeton/Yale/Harvard.

I had 1520 3.9 and 500hrs and I got canned from Harvard/Princeton/Yale , wailisted by Stanford and Penn

what did you guys do to get 800/500 hrs of community service?
 

Mo0o

Lifer
Jul 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Brackis
I applied to much harder schools with my 1530 and 3.0 unweighted, over 800 hours of community service.

Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Brown
Penn
Cornell
Stanford
Cal
UCLA
Northwestern
Vanderbilt

Thus why I expect 0/11

I'm guessing you can expect to hear from atleast UCLA Vandy NW Brown Cornell. Probably not Princeton/Yale/Harvard.

I had 1520 3.9 and 500hrs and I got canned from Harvard/Princeton/Yale , wailisted by Stanford and Penn

what did you guys do to get 800/500 hrs of community service?

I volunteered at a hospital about 3 hours every week during high school and during the summer i volunteered at a "science center" for about 5 hours twice a week. Racks up pretty quick. You could go on a mission trip and every second you're there it counts, even when sleeping. Atleast tahts what people I knew did.
 

Brackis

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Nov 14, 2004
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Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Brackis
I applied to much harder schools with my 1530 and 3.0 unweighted, over 800 hours of community service.

Harvard
Princeton
Yale
Brown
Penn
Cornell
Stanford
Cal
UCLA
Northwestern
Vanderbilt

Thus why I expect 0/11

I'm guessing you can expect to hear from atleast UCLA Vandy NW Brown Cornell. Probably not Princeton/Yale/Harvard.

I had 1520 3.9 and 500hrs and I got canned from Harvard/Princeton/Yale , wailisted by Stanford and Penn

what did you guys do to get 800/500 hrs of community service?

1 month in South Africa, 30 hours week senior spring at a tutoring program, currently tutoring 8 hours a week, 15 hours a week junior fall at a low income daycare center.

In addition I volunteered for 1 summer at Kerry4Prez/DNCC in my hometown of Boston.
Currently I live outside of San Francisco working 45 hours a week with Habitat for humanity in conjunction with the AmeriCorps program which pays me $11k for the year to build houses for low income families.
My downfall was a complete complacency for my GPA. I excelled in AP tests and general retention, but I never was able to put homework and papers above general learning and curiosity.
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: Brackis
I applied to much harder schools with my 1530 and 3.0 unweighted, over 800 hours of community service. edit: (and a year off after HS of "paid" work with Habitat for Humanity in San Mateo County, CA)

Harvard
Princeton (3rd gen legacy)
Yale
Brown (Great Uncle had a building)
Penn (Grandpa trustee emeritus)
Cornell
Stanford
Cal
UCLA
Northwestern
Vanderbilt

Even though I feel I am not only an acceptable student, but someone who could shine at college, there are so many kids who studied more and will have much better grades. Thus why I expect 0/11.

Perhaps getting in off the waitlist somewhere I hope.

i didn't bother wasting time and money on applying to ivy league schools. not only did i know i wouldn't get in, but even if i did, i wouldn't have chosen to go to any of them. full of pretentious douches and bush fans.

i had a friend who got into vandy pretty easily. she had like a 3.4 gpa or something and a 1300 sat score. another friend of mine got accepted to harvard with a 4.0 gpa and a 1200 sat score, but the big reason was because his dad went there and they wanted him on their baseball team.
 

Brackis

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Nov 14, 2004
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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Brackis
I applied to much harder schools with my 1530 and 3.0 unweighted, over 800 hours of community service. edit: (and a year off after HS of "paid" work with Habitat for Humanity in San Mateo County, CA)

Harvard
Princeton (3rd gen legacy)
Yale
Brown (Great Uncle had a building)
Penn (Grandpa trustee emeritus)
Cornell
Stanford
Cal
UCLA
Northwestern
Vanderbilt

Even though I feel I am not only an acceptable student, but someone who could shine at college, there are so many kids who studied more and will have much better grades. Thus why I expect 0/11.

Perhaps getting in off the waitlist somewhere I hope.

i didn't bother wasting time and money on applying to ivy league schools. not only did i know i wouldn't get in, but even if i did, i wouldn't have chosen to go to any of them. full of pretentious douches and bush fans.

i had a friend who got into vandy pretty easily. she had like a 3.4 gpa or something and a 1300 sat score. another friend of mine got accepted to harvard with a 4.0 gpa and a 1200 sat score, but the big reason was because his dad went there and they wanted him on their baseball team.

I very intentionally applied to schools with large quantities of cachet. As someone who is not concerned with my salary after college, but rather my ability to be a leader in a field such that would come from an undergraduate degree in Public Policy, Social Policy, or Urban Studies, having a strong college name is something I value along with my ability to network with powerful people who attend and have attended these schools. If I do not end up at a big name school I would simply take classes at a community college.
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Brackis
I applied to much harder schools with my 1530 and 3.0 unweighted, over 800 hours of community service. edit: (and a year off after HS of "paid" work with Habitat for Humanity in San Mateo County, CA)

Harvard
Princeton (3rd gen legacy)
Yale
Brown (Great Uncle had a building)
Penn (Grandpa trustee emeritus)
Cornell
Stanford
Cal
UCLA
Northwestern
Vanderbilt

Even though I feel I am not only an acceptable student, but someone who could shine at college, there are so many kids who studied more and will have much better grades. Thus why I expect 0/11.

Perhaps getting in off the waitlist somewhere I hope.

i didn't bother wasting time and money on applying to ivy league schools. not only did i know i wouldn't get in, but even if i did, i wouldn't have chosen to go to any of them. full of pretentious douches and bush fans.

i had a friend who got into vandy pretty easily. she had like a 3.4 gpa or something and a 1300 sat score. another friend of mine got accepted to harvard with a 4.0 gpa and a 1200 sat score, but the big reason was because his dad went there and they wanted him on their baseball team.

I very intentionally applied to schools with large quantities of cachet. As someone who is not concerned with my salary after college, but rather my ability to be a leader in a field such that would come from an undergraduate degree in Public Policy, Social Policy, or Urban Studies, having a strong college name is something I value along with my ability to network with powerful people who attend and have attended these schools. If I do not end up at a big name school I would simply take classes at a community college.

that seems silly to settle for community college if you didn't get into the schools to which you intentionally applied because of their large quantities of cachet. if it was so important to you on your path to glory, why not go to ucsb or berkley or something instead, if you can't get into an ivy league school?

the mark of a professional isn't what school he learned his trade, but what he does with what he learned.

for crying out loud, bush went to an ivy league school...
 

msi1337

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I got a 1210...did terrible in college...still working on getting a 2yr degree 9 years after I graduated and make more in retail than most people make with a degree

 

Brackis

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Nov 14, 2004
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Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: eits
Originally posted by: Brackis
I applied to much harder schools with my 1530 and 3.0 unweighted, over 800 hours of community service. edit: (and a year off after HS of "paid" work with Habitat for Humanity in San Mateo County, CA)

Harvard
Princeton (3rd gen legacy)
Yale
Brown (Great Uncle had a building)
Penn (Grandpa trustee emeritus)
Cornell
Stanford
Cal
UCLA
Northwestern
Vanderbilt

Even though I feel I am not only an acceptable student, but someone who could shine at college, there are so many kids who studied more and will have much better grades. Thus why I expect 0/11.

Perhaps getting in off the waitlist somewhere I hope.

i didn't bother wasting time and money on applying to ivy league schools. not only did i know i wouldn't get in, but even if i did, i wouldn't have chosen to go to any of them. full of pretentious douches and bush fans.

i had a friend who got into vandy pretty easily. she had like a 3.4 gpa or something and a 1300 sat score. another friend of mine got accepted to harvard with a 4.0 gpa and a 1200 sat score, but the big reason was because his dad went there and they wanted him on their baseball team.

I very intentionally applied to schools with large quantities of cachet. As someone who is not concerned with my salary after college, but rather my ability to be a leader in a field such that would come from an undergraduate degree in Public Policy, Social Policy, or Urban Studies, having a strong college name is something I value along with my ability to network with powerful people who attend and have attended these schools. If I do not end up at a big name school I would simply take classes at a community college.

that seems silly to settle for community college if you didn't get into the schools to which you intentionally applied because of their large quantities of cachet. if it was so important to you on your path to glory, why not go to ucsb or berkley or something instead, if you can't get into an ivy league school?

the mark of a professional isn't what school he learned his trade, but what he does with what he learned.

for crying out loud, bush went to an ivy league school...

Like I said, my intentions are not to attend school to learn a particular trade or simply become a working professional (this is not to denounce this path, I just have other ambitions). Your mention of George Bush supports my claim that the powerful and connected attend these schools, and for me to harness their prosperity and direct it toward just causes requires me to form strong relationships and trust that comes with being "one of them" Ivy league preps.
 

eits

Lifer
Jun 4, 2005
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*shrug*

i guess i'd rather be worth my salt and develop my way into a network of important people based on my expertice and ability than to be included in the network of important people just because of the school to which i was accepted. i'm from outside of dc in maryland, one of the most affluent areas in the country and you soon come to realize that what matters most is what you do rather than who you know. those who are already in that network of important people (most of them) got there based on their ability rather than social status or school name. those who end up getting in the network based on their school name and don't have much ability worth mentioning fade from the group rather quickly. it's just that it so happens that those who are able end up going to high caliber ivy league schools.

my advice is just to look for colleges where you'd have the most fun. i'm not saying you should go to a huge party school or anything, just a place where you could enjoy being for 4 years.
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: eits
*shrug*

i guess i'd rather be worth my salt and develop my way into a network of important people based on my expertice and ability than to be included in the network of important people just because of the school to which i was accepted. i'm from outside of dc in maryland, one of the most affluent areas in the country and you soon come to realize that what matters most is what you do rather than who you know. those who are already in that network of important people (most of them) got there based on their ability rather than social status or school name. those who end up getting in the network based on their school name and don't have much ability worth mentioning fade from the group rather quickly. it's just that it so happens that those who are able end up going to high caliber ivy league schools.

my advice is just to look for colleges where you'd have the most fun. i'm not saying you should go to a huge party school or anything, just a place where you could enjoy being for 4 years.
The networking means the collaboration with these types of folks in college, to be surrounded by other people who will bring ideas and challenge me to as well.

 

Horus

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Thank you CHRIST we don't have those in Canada. I can't do math worth SH1T except for my own personal finances.

History? English? Geography? No problemo. Just no math.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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Originally posted by: corruptedmage25
SAT = failed

1910

660 math
640 reading
610 writing
even though i pulled a perfect on the essay i screwed up big here

<-------- 1310 under old system
 

Eeezee

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I wouldn't call it a completely failure, you can get into a state school no problem (and probably get some scholarship money at that)
 

Mo0o

Lifer
Jul 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Brackis
Originally posted by: eits
*shrug*

i guess i'd rather be worth my salt and develop my way into a network of important people based on my expertice and ability than to be included in the network of important people just because of the school to which i was accepted. i'm from outside of dc in maryland, one of the most affluent areas in the country and you soon come to realize that what matters most is what you do rather than who you know. those who are already in that network of important people (most of them) got there based on their ability rather than social status or school name. those who end up getting in the network based on their school name and don't have much ability worth mentioning fade from the group rather quickly. it's just that it so happens that those who are able end up going to high caliber ivy league schools.

my advice is just to look for colleges where you'd have the most fun. i'm not saying you should go to a huge party school or anything, just a place where you could enjoy being for 4 years.
The networking means the collaboration with these types of folks in college, to be surrounded by other people who will bring ideas and challenge me to as well.
Indeed, that's half the purpose of going to a highly selective institution
 

evilmantis

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1560 under old system (800 math + 760 verbal).

Picked a state school (Univ Toledo, Ohio) because of
a) good physics program with research opportunities
b)scholarship inc room/board/books/food plan
c)trip abroad (10 days in Italy) that came with scholarship
d)close to family and boyfriend (now husband).
Then got fellowship to MS program at another state school in medical physics; now moving to SC for excellent med-phys job (read: no snow!!).

State schools ftw!!
 

Rock Hydra

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Originally posted by: Atomicus
Originally posted by: yobarman
I got into RIT with 1300/1600 which isn't great, but not bad either.

RIT took kids at my HS with a 1100 and gave pretty good scholarships to boot. Not saying that RIT has low standards... just stating

I got accepted with my measly 980. Yeah, I bombed the SAT. But, I didn't go there because I'm not in the financial situiation to go to RIT.
 

Nerva

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what's so hard about the writing section? it's just an essay that is graded very loosely and grammar. tsk tsk tsk. just take it again and study hard.
 

Brackis

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Originally posted by: 3cho
what's so hard about the writing section? it's just an essay that is graded very loosely and grammar. tsk tsk tsk. just take it again and study hard.

I don't particularly like the writing section (assuming it was the same as the SAT2 writing) because of how limiting it is. I consider myself to be a strong writer, but nothing on that test demonstrates that ability. sure, I can get a very good score, but it is very frustrating to see a 10/12 on the essay when this type of essay is so pathetic to begin with; I would compare it to Kevin Garnett losing a 3point contest to a 5' 7" highschool varsity athlete and being called an inferior player. It is essentially testing my ability to write mindless crap in 5 paragraph form. I have not written a tradition 3 pages, 5 paragraph essay in book report form since probably 8th or 9th grade and anyone who thinks that such writing will cut it at real college is in for a big surprise.
 

Leper Messiah

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800 is average. OP are you asian or something?
Though I did get like a 1210 in 7th grade. If I studied higher level math for a bit, I could get a 1600 easily.
 

blinky8225

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Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
800 is average. OP are you asian or something?
Though I did get like a 1210 in 7th grade. If I studied higher level math for a bit, I could get a 1600 easily.
I thought 1000 was average.
 

classy

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Originally posted by: JS80
When you're 40 you won't remember what score you got.

Yea true. I think I got 1050 or 1075. Something along those lines. But that was 15+ years ago.
 

Brackis

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Each section has a mean score of 500 with the standard deviation being 100 under a regular bell curve. My hunch is that the true average is likely a bit higher.
 
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