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glenn1

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Please. Bork was an ideologue of the far right persuasion. Obama will not nominate anybody nearly so controversial.

When Reagan nominated Kennedy thereafter he was approved 97-0.

Thanks for proving my point can that being purely political. He was qualified as any candidate has ever been. And yet another reason why I will have no pity if GOP does block Obama's pick, you reap what you sow. It will be truly fitting irony if the pick is as qualified as Bork and is voted down for purely political reasons as well.
 

Blackjack200

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RIP Justice Scalia.

I didn't agree with a lot of his decisions, I'll leave it at that. He was still a person that had a family, so I'm sorry he passed and I wish his family comfort.

I'll start another thread to discuss the SCOTUS nomination because I don't think that this thread is the place.
 

JEDI

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oh shit!

MITCH MCCONNELL on Scalia: "this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new President."

time to cram a new Supreme court judge down the senates throat!
make them squirm!
hey repubs: a new supreme court justice or lose the Prez AND senate due to voter anger over obstructionism!
choose one you bat chit crazy thugs!

Respect points for Obama if he makes it Bill Clinton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!one!!1!
 
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Indus

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jesus.. I think Obama wins for the most # of Justices a prez put on the supreme court.

IIRC Washinton named 11 justices (makes sense because he nominated the first ones) and FDR was not far behind.
 

JEDI

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According to this, Obama can make an appointment during a Recess of 10 days or longer:

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/c...ssociate_justice_antonin_scalia_found/czyw6l8

So it's going to happen

no its not.
didn't the repubs do some procedural trick and no recess the senate by having a senator speak on the senate floor for 1 min or something like that?

I think it was upheld by the courts that the recess appointment Obama made to the Labor Board was invalid?
and ALL the decisions made by the Labor board during the past year was null and void?
 

Jhhnn

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Thanks for proving my point can that being purely political. He was qualified as any candidate has ever been. And yet another reason why I will have no pity if GOP does block Obama's pick, you reap what you sow. It will be truly fitting irony if the pick is as qualified as Bork and is voted down for purely political reasons as well.

You're so full of shit. Bork wasn't the first nominee to be rejected by the Senate, some for highly political reasons-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsuccessful_nominations_to_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States

While the vote on Bork was highly partisan, his nomination was ridiculously partisan in the first place. Reagan threw down the gauntlet & the Senate threw it back in his face.

Obama likely won't make it like that at all.
 

glenn1

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You're so full of shit. Bork wasn't the first nominee to be rejected by the Senate, some for highly political reasons-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsuccessful_nominations_to_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States

While the vote on Bork was highly partisan, his nomination was ridiculously partisan in the first place. Reagan threw down the gauntlet & the Senate threw it back in his face.

Obama likely won't make it like that at all.

Yeah, fancy that basically every nomination rejected for political reasons was by a Republican President. Yet another reason why the GOP could and probably should reject any Obama nomination. They have a lot of rejected nominations before they pull even with Democrats.
 

Jhhnn

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no its not.
didn't the repubs do some procedural trick and no recess the senate by having a senator speak on the senate floor for 1 min or something like that?

I think it was upheld by the courts that the recess appointment Obama made to the Labor Board was invalid?
and ALL the decisions made by the Labor board during the past year was null and void?

As I understand it, Teahadi HOR reps have been holding mock sessions all through Obama's tenure purely to obstruct recess appointments & prevent efficient governance. The Scotus ruled that means interim appointments are impossible.

It passes for Patriotism on the Right Fringe.
 

JEDI

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Which is obviously not obstructionist. Couldn't be!

McConnell invites schism in the ranks from vulnerable Repub Senators with blatant base pandering.

oh yeah.. kiss the repub senate majority GOODBYE!
thx Mitch
 

Balt

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Thanks for proving my point can that being purely political. He was qualified as any candidate has ever been. And yet another reason why I will have no pity if GOP does block Obama's pick, you reap what you sow. It will be truly fitting irony if the pick is as qualified as Bork and is voted down for purely political reasons as well.

How do you feel about Harriet Miers?
 

pete6032

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Dies after hunting trip in Texas. Has Dick Cheney been accounted for over the last 24 hours?
 

Jhhnn

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Yeah, fancy that basically every nomination rejected for political reasons was by a Republican President. Yet another reason why the GOP could and probably should reject any Obama nomination. They have a lot of rejected nominations before they pull even with Democrats.

Now you're being deliberately & desperately obtuse.

The reason for Senate confirmation is precisely to prevent the appointment of extreme ideologues of any persuasion. I don't think that Obama will offer that kind of justification.

Repubs won't be able to frame it as anything other than pure partisan spite, something you seem to wear quite proudly.
 

glenn1

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How do you feel about Harriet Miers?

I don't feel about Harriet Miers. IIRC she had a law degree but little experience which would be directly applicable to being a SCOTUS justice, and this caused her to not even gain much support from the President's own party ans then she subsequently requested her name be withdrawn. It wasn't anything along the lines of a no vote because the opposition disliked her position on an issue like was the case with Bork.
 

glenn1

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Now you're being deliberately & desperately obtuse.

The reason for Senate confirmation is precisely to prevent the appointment of extreme ideologues of any persuasion. I don't think that Obama will offer that kind of justification.

Repubs won't be able to frame it as anything other than pure partisan spite, something you seem to wear quite proudly.

I reject the notion that it's a screen for political positions, its a screen for competence. Your side should be horrified at the idea that it would be the former, not advocating for it.
 

Darwin333

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Obviously obstructionist if you have the mental capacity of a toddler.

If this kind of stuff can even happen then any reasonable person would see the system as in need of some adjustment - people like you just point fingers and prove your ignorance.

How can you possibly "repair" it while maintaining the necessary checks and balances?
 

Darwin333

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Now you're being deliberately & desperately obtuse.

The reason for Senate confirmation is precisely to prevent the appointment of extreme ideologues of any persuasion. I don't think that Obama will offer that kind of justification.

Repubs won't be able to frame it as anything other than pure partisan spite, something you seem to wear quite proudly.

Some Republicans have already publicly stated that the appointment should be made by the next President. There wasn't much point in trying to make excuses before, now there is none at all.
 

Aegeon

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I reject the notion that it's a screen for political positions, its a screen for competence. Your side should be horrified at the idea that it would be the former, not advocating for it.
The Republican Senate leader just explicitly said it has absolutely nothing at all to do with competence, or even who Obama picks, but the Republican Senate abusing their power for political reasons.

The Bork nomination was also in various ways about competence including if certain views were simply ones in which Senators simply disagreed with them politically or if some of them went to a point where it brought into question their effectiveness as a federal court justice at that level with those specific extreme positions.

The fact of the matter is six Republican Senators also voted against Bork's nomination to the Supreme Court so it was not simply a partisan issue in the way the Republican controlled Senate suggests they are going to behave.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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The GOP probably knows they won't win the presidency. They should just let Obama pick one as it's gonna be better then sanders for them and they hate Hillary.
 

Jhhnn

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The GOP probably knows they won't win the presidency. They should just let Obama pick one as it's gonna be better then sanders for them and they hate Hillary.

When in Power, Repubs are incompetent to govern. When out of Power, they'll be damned if they'll let anybody do it any better.
 
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