Scalia dead

[fskimospy]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/698647117594783744?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

F McConnell

Color me completely shocked. Haha. The question was not if they were going to say this, the question is how inventive they will be with their excuses.

I wish they would just come out and say they want the Supreme Court to continue to tilt conservative and be done with it. I doubt they will be so honest.

 

[fskimospy]

According to this, Obama can make an appointment during a Recess of 10 days or longer:

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/c...ssociate_justice_antonin_scalia_found/czyw6l8

So it's going to happen

Yeah except they will not go into recess.

 

[sportage]

Ps. Tonight's republican debate will be a disgusting event to witness.

 

[ivwshane]

I doubt you can go an entire year without a replacement

This will put election turnout through the roof. it will also push Republicans to accelerate restricting voter rights.

So you too are aware of the Republican game plan. Eight years ago I wouldn't have thought the repubs would act in such a way, now? I wouldn't put it past them.

 

[theeedude]

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/698647117594783744?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

F McConnell

If this becomes an election on SCOTUS, GOP loses. Senate too. Democrats have no battleground Senate seats up in 2016. GOP will be defending a lot.

 

[sportage]

God truly does work in mysterious ways... if you get my drift.

 

[runzwithsizorz]

Originally Posted by runzwithsizorz
The last time the second amendment came before SCOTUS, it was upheld by only 1 vote! D:

Do you have anything to back this nonsense up?

https://danny4assembly.wordpress.com/2010/06/28/gun-rights-prevail-scotus-upholds-2nd-amendment/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/26/supreme-court-upholds-rig_n_109365.html

http://aclj.org/us-constitution/supreme-court-upholds-second-amendment-rights

http://simpson.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=192697

http://patriotpost.us/articles/6265

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/28/AR2010062802134.html

 

[Wreckem]

The government must function. Honestly this is better for you guys then if he died with the burn as prez.

I am not a Republican. I don't vote Republican either.


The Supreme Court will function just fine with 8 members. It routinely hears cases with 8 Justices. All the cases this term will have to be decided by the current 8 members. A hypothetical new Justice would only be joining in conferences to decide on taking cases, you do not need 9 Justices for that. Scalia was over emergency appeals for the 5th, the Chief Justice or another can easily step in to fulfill that role.

The Supreme Court will function just fine without an appointment.

As for a recess appointment, the GOP will continue to do what they have been doing and that is having pro forma sessions during recess. They have been doing this to prevent Obama from making recess appointments for awhile now, so there's little doubt they will stop doing so now. Not to mention, a President hasn't done a recess appointment for SCotUS since Eisenhower.

 

[Balt]

Yeah except they will not go into recess.

Agreed. They will keep whatever number of people they need present to prevent a recess appointment.

 

[Subyman]

It will be interesting to see all the excuses they trot out though.

I'm ready to hear the BS.

"The nation needs time to heal from this tragic loss."

 

[Sonikku]

man, congress is probably going to do their damnest to postpone naming a replacement until the new year. I can just see every nominee Obama putting forward being shot down over and over again for months.

 

[Wreckem]

According to this, Obama can make an appointment during a Recess of 10 days or longer:

https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/c...ssociate_justice_antonin_scalia_found/czyw6l8

So it's going to happen

No its not. For the same reason Obama hasn't been able to make that many recess appointments and that is because the Senate will continue to hold pro forma sessions while in "recess". Which according to the liberal majority of the Supreme Court, is enough to block the President from making a recess appointment.

Not to mention if Obama makes a recess appointment, said recess appointment would only last until the end of the Senate session, which ends Jan 3, 2017. So a recess appointment won't do much as they as they would be required to be confirmed by the Senate.

There is zero getting around Scalia's vacancy being THE SINGLE BIGGEST ISSUE IN THIS YEARS ELECTION. The GOP is more or less damned if they do/damned if they don't. If they raise the white flag and allow Obama to appoint someone they are absolutely 100% fucked. If the use their constitutionally granted power to delay a nomination they are going to have repercussions but not nearly as bad as they will if they capitulate.

 

[K1052]

The GOP can block the nomination but it's going to cost. The President and the Dem candidates can mercilessly pummel them until election day.

 

[Phokus]

Yeah except they will not go into recess.

OTOH: ""Longest SCOTUS confirmation process from nomination to resolution was Brandeis at 125 days Obama has 342 days left in office.""

 

[ivwshane]

If this becomes an election on SCOTUS, GOP loses. Senate too. Democrats have no battleground Senate seats up in 2016. GOP will be defending a lot.

Quite honestly I believe the opposite. The Republicans and their supporters know the worth of a supreme Court appointment, Democrat voters do not.

This election just became about getting out the vote. Sanders seems to be the favorite in that regard.

 

[theeedude]

Could be a compromise pick:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/who-sri-srinivasan-supreme-court

 

[theeedude]

Quite honestly u believe the opposite. The Republicans and their supporters know the worth of a supreme Court appointment, Democrat voters do not.

That means Democrats have more to gain by their voters becoming more aware of the worth of a SCOTUS appointment.

 

[Wreckem]

The GOP can block the nomination but it's going to cost. The President and the Dem candidates can mercilessly pummel them until election day.

Do you not see that as being better than the alternative? The "conservative" base is already borderline revolting. The GOP will be in full fledged meltdown/crisis mode if they don't fight Obama on this appointment.

 

[Jhhnn]

I thought McConnell was smarter. My mistake.

 

[Wreckem]

I thought McConnell was smarter. My mistake.

You are acting like He/the GOP has a politically viable alternative to fighting the nomination here.

I repeat. The GOP DOES NOT HAVE A POLITICALLY VIABLE OPTION outside of fighting the nomination process. Not fighting the nomination process hurts the GOP 100 times more than fighting the nomination.

 

[Artdeco]

Could be a compromise pick:
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/04/who-sri-srinivasan-supreme-court

Sure looks like it... I kinda like him.

 

[K1052]

Do you not see that as being better than the alternative? The "conservative" base is already borderline revolting. The GOP will be in full fledged meltdown/crisis mode if they don't fight Obama on this appointment.

I wasn't debating that. It's the least bad option out of terrible terrible options but some people may be inclined to think it will come without political cost.

I'm increasingly skeptical the GOP, as we know it, will survive this election via any course that is chosen.

 

[Wreckem]

Sure looks like it... I kinda like him.

The only issue is, the grilling he would take during his hearings. He would have to go on record and take actual stances on all issues. Then he might not be a compromise afterall.

 

[theeedude]

Sure looks like it... I kinda like him.

One issue is that appointing him would leave a vacancy on the DC circuit for Obama to worry about, and for Republicans to obstruct.

 

[Jhhnn]

There is zero getting around Scalia's vacancy being THE SINGLE BIGGEST ISSUE IN THIS YEARS ELECTION. The GOP is more or less damned if they do/damned if they don't. If they raise the white flag and allow Obama to appoint someone they are absolutely 100% fucked. If the use their constitutionally granted power to delay a nomination they are going to have repercussions but not nearly as bad as they will if they capitulate.

Repubs are walking into this eyes wide shut. They're vulnerable to losing their majority in the Senate.

Obama will pick an extremely well qualified & moderate nominee that they can only oppose for blatantly political reasons. It won't play well for the more vulnerable members of the caucus. Not well at all.