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thraashman

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I think your last post is horrid and should be deleted.

You need some time off IMO.

That's your opinion and you're entitled to it no matter how wrong it is. Scalia's record of shittiness deserves every bit of vitriol I can throw at him. It would be more but I've had a few celebratory drinks tonight and can't come up with anything more creative right now.
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
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Let the butthurt flow through you, get it all out about how Scalia's interpretation of the Second Amendment ruined your life and America.
 

DrDoug

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I think your last post is horrid and should be deleted.

You need some time off IMO.

I disagree. Scalia purposely pissed off (and on) various groups of people with not only what he said but in how he ruled in certain cases. Just as there are a lot of people out there grieving his passing, there are a lot of people out there who are celebrating it. Hell, if there was a bucket list for people whose graves I would want to piss on, Fat Tony's name would probably be in it. IMO he was a piss poor jurist.

I know for sure that the name of the guy who nominated him would be in it.
 

khon

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Republicans have already vowed to block any candidate , so it will be interesting to see how Obama responds. If I was him, I'd find the most qualified latino and/or female I could, and let Republicans pay the political price for publicly blocking them for the next 11 months.
 

x26

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As the old bigots and homophobes die off, the country and civilization will be ever the better.
If you want sympathy from me, this is the best I can do.

And so much for Pat Robertson's wish for Ginsberg's death from cancer.
Take THAT man of the godless.

Scary to Think anyone is as Stupid as You!!
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Republicans have already vowed to block any candidate , so it will be interesting to see how Obama responds. If I was him, I'd find the most qualified latino and/or female I could, and let Republicans pay the political price for publicly blocking them for the next 11 months.

Yeah the gop is dumb. He could grab the most middle road best candidates and toss them at the gop and kill them off. Then bernie sanders gets elected and puts up a communist to the supreme court
 

compuwiz1

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I feel the need to say this and I mean this with every bit of my heart and every fiber of my being.

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You're way out of line, you disrespectful fuck! If you represent what being liberal is, I don't want any.
 
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JSt0rm

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You're way out of line, you disrespectful fuck! If you represent what being liberal is, I don't want any.

I respect using jack bauer in an argument on the supreme court for the use of torture. That was pretty cool.
 

lopri

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The Senate will have to confirm somebody to serve on the court. If they don't the court will limp along with 8 justices for TWO terms. Remember that the next president will be sworn in on January, and even with transition period preparation, there will not be enough time for a new justice to begin a new term on March. That means 4-4 gridlock in the nation's highest court for 2 years. I don't think that is acceptable or sustainable.
 

compuwiz1

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The Senate will have to confirm somebody to serve on the court. If they don't the court will limp along with 8 justices for TWO terms. Remember that the next president will be sworn in on January, and even with transition period preparation, there will not be enough time for a new justice to begin a new term on March. That means 4-4 gridlock in the nation's highest court for 2 years. I don't think that is acceptable or sustainable.

I'd rather have that, than have Obama pick someone of his own ideology, or worse, one of his cronies. I want Obama to leave clean, not further inject impact before he leaves. I want him to play golf every day from now until the end of his term. He's done enough damage. We'll get by until he's gone. Let the next president choose the next justice.
 

JSt0rm

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I'd rather have that, than have Obama pick someone of his own ideology, or worse, one of his cronies. I want Obama to leave clean, not further inject impact before he leaves. I want him to play golf every day from now until the end of his term. He's done enough damage. We'll get by until he's gone. Let the next president choose the next justice.

you a loon. lol.
 

pcgeek11

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I disagree. Scalia purposely pissed off (and on) various groups of people with not only what he said but in how he ruled in certain cases. Just as there are a lot of people out there grieving his passing, there are a lot of people out there who are celebrating it. Hell, if there was a bucket list for people whose graves I would want to piss on, Fat Tony's name would probably be in it. IMO he was a piss poor jurist.

I know for sure that the name of the guy who nominated him would be in it.

So you agree with this:

 
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ivwshane

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9 months isn't anywhere close to the record for being without a justice. Obama could use this as an opportunity to not do something blatantly partisan and self serving, but I doubt it. Next president will probably choose Ginsberg's replacement, Breyer not far behind.

Wow! There have been some pretty stupid and overtly partisan comments in this thread but yours takes top honors!
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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you guys are melting down. lmao. Obama gets 3 supreme court justices then hilldabeast gets 2 more.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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Well you only have yourselves to blame when the sc has no conservatives on it. The rigid GOP rino witch hunts and continued radicalization of the base over the last 15 years has made you all insane in the membrane.
 

DrDoug

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So you agree with this:

No, I said that they have a right to feel that way if they wish to and they have a right to express it if they wish to do so, just like those who miss him will speak well of him. He was a very divisive public figure who made decisions that some view as having very negatively affected their or their loved ones lives. Not only that but he deliberately flaunted this at them to piss them off.

Personally, I hope he went peacefully but he was a deliberately detestable person and the country is better off without him on the Supreme Court.
 

lopri

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Well.. I'm just going to go ahead and address the 500 lb gorilla in the room - now that a Supreme Court Justice seat is up for sale to the highest corporate bidder, how will this impact the current election?

It is important to remember that the conservatives are the ones who nominate judges who are sympathetic to corporate interests. This is an undeniable truth that no reasonable observer can possibly deny.

RIP

I didn't find him to be a good SC justice. Mostly because of how outwardly political he became and how his opinion on how strictly the Constitution/Bill of Rights should be applied constantly shifted based on what case was being considered. But, in any case, RIP.
IMO it is unfair to diminish what he achieved just because he became overtly political toward the end of his career/life. His legacy is too great to be overshadowed by a few insensitive and inappropriate remarks.

Liberals hated him not because his writings were anathema to their ideals; they hated him because he was persuasive in justifying his ideas that are at odds with theirs. In this sense Scalia is different from Alito, who writes a strange decision after a strange decision that are not identifiable with any judicial philosophy but are in lock-step with GOP's political interests.
 
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boomerang

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Some of you with your panties in a twist over just the thought that a replacement could be postponed into the next presidency should look up how the word "borked" came to exist. Blocking nominee's is nothing new. It's nothing more than our government functioning as it was designed to function. That members of political parties with different philosophies should move in lockstep is juvenile thinking.

I'll wrap it up by voicing my opinion that thraashman should get some time off for reflection. I'm doing it publicly not privately.
 

glenn1

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It is important to remember that the conservatives are the ones who nominate judges who are sympathetic to corporate interests. This is an undeniable truth that no reasonable observer can possibly deny.


IMO it is unfair to diminish what he achieved just because he became overtly political toward the end of his career/life. His legacy is too great to be overshadowed by a few insensitive and inappropriate remarks.

Liberals hated him not because his writings were anathema to their ideals; they hated him because he was persuasive in justifying his ideas that are at odds with theirs. In this sense Scalia is different from Alito, who writes a strange decision after a strange decision that are not identifiable with any judicial philosophy but are in lock-step with GOP's political interests.

Corporate interests deserve as much sympathy as non-corporate; either the law and Constitution is on their side for a given case or it's not. Citizens United is a good example; the left wants corporate interests to NOT get fair treatment despite it being the obviously correct decision. We don't throw away "redress of grievances" just because you fear that corporations might be successful in obtaining that redress.
 

lopri

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^ That is a debate for another thread. I was replying to the post I quoted.

(Citizens United.. Obviously correct decision? Hah)
 

emperus

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Wait, the way things are going do you guys really believe there will be a Republican President next term?
 

Jaepheth

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Well, about 30-40% of America will vote Republican regardless of the candidates; so it's possible.

I'm sure they've concluded that holding out for a 10% chance of a Republican president is better than letting Obama nominate a liberal to the Supreme Court.

Of course, any split decisions in the meantime will revert back to the lower courts; most of which are liberal anyways.

So the Republicans are kind of screwed either way.
 
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