SCOTUS Nomination Thread

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JEDI

Lifer
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And people said bush would be the nominee. Despite what you people say, trump is obviously a very skilled tactician to be able to understand enough facets of politics to out smart the entire gop, media, and smack the fuck outta Billy Bob when they dared suggest he was a misogynist. Bill bob has no magic left, he is a tired old man from smashing as much pussy as he has.

Hillary isn't relatable. You are going to lose.

Trump as Pres?!

bwhahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahahhahahahahahahhahahahhaha
only if Hilary is assassinated by Nov elections. he wins by default... unless...
Bloomberg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Balt

Lifer
Mar 12, 2000
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And people said bush would be the nominee. Despite what you people say, trump is obviously a very skilled tactician to be able to understand enough facets of politics to out smart the entire gop, media, and smack the fuck outta Billy Bob when they dared suggest he was a misogynist. Bill bob has no magic left, he is a tired old man from smashing as much pussy as he has.

Hillary isn't relatable. You are going to lose.

While I'm tempted to type out a 5 paragraph reply as to how wrong you are, frankly I don't really care enough to do it.

Just make yourself mentally prepared for a Clinton presidency, because it's going to happen. Don't be one of those crazy people that we have to listen to for stupid conspiracy bullshit for the next four years.
 
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umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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LOL it's fun to watch LK think that him and his ilk are even close to be a majority group in this country. Enjoy you new female POTUS. Going to be fun watching your rampage on TV, make sure you save one last one for yourself...
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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While I'm tempted to type out a 5 paragraph reply as to how wrong you are, frankly I don't really care enough to do it.

Just make yourself mentally prepared for a Clinton presidency, because it's going to happen. Don't be one of those crazy people that we have to listen to for stupid conspiracy bullshit for the next four years.
I really don't care economically. She is for my clas, bought and paid for that is. I will benefit probably as much under her as anybody else running. So what do I give a fuck?

My kids will still go to the same private schools, their 529s loaded in case they don't get scholarships. My 401k, iras, and other accounts will go up. The banks will get bigger and regulations likely rolled back, so I will benefit more there. Do you think I have to worry about 25% increases to obamacare premiums? I have a nice, but not cadillac, ppo. Even if my taxes go up a little, doesn't matter to me that much. I am not living paycheck to paycheck. I have plenty of cushion. Shit. My tax rate could go up 15% on the margin and it would probably make me stop going to Starbucks every day. I might have to get a drip rather than latte, at least twice a week.

Financially, I will be in the same spot. That's why I find it a bit funny that you think I care personally.

I just care a bit more for the rest of the country than you do.
 
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JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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My 401k, iras, and other accounts will go up. The banks will get bigger and regulations likely rolled back, so I will benefit more there. Do you think I have to worry about 25% increases to obamacare premiums? I have a nice, but not cadillac, ppo. Even if my taxes go up a little, doesn't matter to me that much. I am not living paycheck to paycheck. I have plenty of cushion. Shit. My tax rate could go up 15% on the margin and it would probably make me stop going to Starbucks every day. I might have to get a drip rather than latte, at least twice a week.

Financially, I will be in the same spot. That's why I find it a bit funny that you think I care personally.

I just care a bit more for the rest of the country than you do.
um..er..

I agree w/everything he just typed?!

/WorldAboutToEnd?

oh.. and I do have a Cadillac ppo.
Bracing myself for 2018
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
18,256
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um..er..

I agree w/everything he just typed?!

/WorldAboutToEnd?

oh.. and I do have a Cadillac ppo.
Bracing myself for 2018

Shit, the best thing that can happen to me personally is for her to get in. If she does even half the damage her husband did by rolling back financial regulations I'll be in the money.
 

Balt

Lifer
Mar 12, 2000
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I really don't care economically. She is for my clas, bought and paid for that is. I will benefit probably as much under her as anybody else running. So what do I give a fuck?

My kids will still go to the same private schools, their 529s loaded in case they don't get scholarships. My 401k, iras, and other accounts will go up. The banks will get bigger and regulations likely rolled back, so I will benefit more there. Do you think I have to worry about 25% increases to obamacare premiums? I have a nice, but not cadillac, ppo. Even if my taxes go up a little, doesn't matter to me that much. I am not living paycheck to paycheck. I have plenty of cushion. Shit. My tax rate could go up 15% on the margin and it would probably make me stop going to Starbucks every day. I might have to get a drip rather than latte, at least twice a week.

Financially, I will be in the same spot. That's why I find it a bit funny that you think I care personally.

I just care a bit more for the rest of the country than you do.

Honestly, why do you think anyone on the Republican side will do anything better? In every speech they promise to lower taxes, increase the defense budget, and miraculously somehow lower the debt/deficit. Do you really believe that will balance the budget?

Trump follows the same script. Promise everything to everyone. He really has no plan at all, which is apparent from his opening/closing speech of every single speech in which he declares "America doesn't win anymore. We lose to Mexico. We lose to China. Blah blah blah."
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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Honestly, why do you think anyone on the Republican side will do anything better? In every speech they promise to lower taxes, increase the defense budget, and miraculously somehow lower the debt/deficit. Do you really believe that will balance the budget?

Trump follows the same script. Promise everything to everyone. He really has no plan at all, which is apparent from his opening/closing speech of every single speech in which he declares "America doesn't win anymore. We lose to Mexico. We lose to China. Blah blah blah."

The way the Repubs did it the last time I can recall, they cut taxes for the rich, started a couple of wars, lied to the middle class and the poor about lowering the deficit, and as a reward, those bastards made the middle class and the poor pay for all of it.
 

compuwiz1

Admin Emeritus Elite Member
Oct 9, 1999
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LOL it's fun to watch LK think that him and his ilk are even close to be a majority group in this country. Enjoy you new female POTUS. Going to be fun watching your rampage on TV, make sure you save one last one for yourself...

The Democrats I know were telling me that the Republicans were going to lose badly in the last mid terms too. They were wrong then and they are wrong now.
 

Moonbeam

Elite Member
Nov 24, 1999
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The Democrats I know were telling me that the Republicans were going to lose badly in the last mid terms too. They were wrong then and they are wrong now.

Liberals have a brain defect when they view who will win elections. Their certainty they are intellectually superior to Republicans prevents them from seeing that Republicans are morally more in tune with the average person. People always vote their guts, not their brains. Liberals sell moral pabulum. Can I show you a graph?
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
18,256
68
86
Honestly, why do you think anyone on the Republican side will do anything better? In every speech they promise to lower taxes, increase the defense budget, and miraculously somehow lower the debt/deficit. Do you really believe that will balance the budget?

Trump follows the same script. Promise everything to everyone. He really has no plan at all, which is apparent from his opening/closing speech of every single speech in which he declares "America doesn't win anymore. We lose to Mexico. We lose to China. Blah blah blah."

Could they be any worse? If anything I'll get everything Hillary promises, and then some, along with maybe some better economic conditions for the middle class.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
13,816
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The Democrats I know were telling me that the Republicans were going to lose badly in the last mid terms too. They were wrong then and they are wrong now.

The democrats you know are stupid then. Off POTUS election years almost always swing right. They aren't wrong this time, if Trump is the nominee and even though some will have to wait for hours and hours to vote, it's going to be a slaughter...
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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The Democrats I know were telling me that the Republicans were going to lose badly in the last mid terms too. They were wrong then and they are wrong now.

If you add up the votes nationwide Dems got a few million more then Republicans
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,684
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I really don't care economically. She is for my clas, bought and paid for that is. I will benefit probably as much under her as anybody else running. So what do I give a fuck?

My kids will still go to the same private schools, their 529s loaded in case they don't get scholarships. My 401k, iras, and other accounts will go up. The banks will get bigger and regulations likely rolled back, so I will benefit more there. Do you think I have to worry about 25% increases to obamacare premiums? I have a nice, but not cadillac, ppo. Even if my taxes go up a little, doesn't matter to me that much. I am not living paycheck to paycheck. I have plenty of cushion. Shit. My tax rate could go up 15% on the margin and it would probably make me stop going to Starbucks every day. I might have to get a drip rather than latte, at least twice a week.

Financially, I will be in the same spot. That's why I find it a bit funny that you think I care personally.

I just care a bit more for the rest of the country than you do.

If you cared more you'd understand the situation better. The changes in the economy over the last 35 years or so have left upper middle class families largely untouched while the lower 70% or so gets a smaller piece of the pie & the financial elite get a much bigger one. A fat slice has been taken off of the middle & lower end & piled up high in a narrow band at the top, particularly the tippy-top. That trend is continuing.

What tends to compensate somewhat has been the massive increase in credit, a highly imperfect answer at best but one that still benefits the tippy top the most. It also increases instability. The financial lite thrives on that, on market movement, because they can beat the cash out of everybody else's investments whichever way it moves due to their insider position & enormous financial cushions.

Most families don't have much of a cushion so the situation for them can go to hell in a hurry because of high overhead relative to income. They're subject to forces beyond their control to a much greater degree than people who've done well over the decades. They need growth with stability, not a financial roller coaster ride where every downturn gets bigger & the financial beating worse.

If you think that throwing out the illegals so we can have their jobs will correct that, you're delusional.

If you think that Trump's harder & deeper trickledown tax plan will help, you're also delusional.

If you think that the jobs are coming back you're out of your fucking mind. The only way we'll get more decent paying jobs is to create more govt jobs, not less, and the only way to pay for that is with higher taxes at the top. Otherwise, we'll continue to be ground down to the lowest common denominator that global labor arbitrage creates.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
15,995
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If you cared more you'd understand the situation better. The changes in the economy over the last 35 years or so have left upper middle class families largely untouched while the lower 70% or so gets a smaller piece of the pie & the financial elite get a much bigger one. A fat slice has been taken off of the middle & lower end & piled up high in a narrow band at the top, particularly the tippy-top. That trend is continuing.

What tends to compensate somewhat has been the massive increase in credit, a highly imperfect answer at best but one that still benefits the tippy top the most. It also increases instability. The financial lite thrives on that, on market movement, because they can beat the cash out of everybody else's investments whichever way it moves due to their insider position & enormous financial cushions.

Most families don't have much of a cushion so the situation for them can go to hell in a hurry because of high overhead relative to income. They're subject to forces beyond their control to a much greater degree than people who've done well over the decades. They need growth with stability, not a financial roller coaster ride where every downturn gets bigger & the financial beating worse.

If you think that throwing out the illegals so we can have their jobs will correct that, you're delusional.

If you think that Trump's harder & deeper trickledown tax plan will help, you're also delusional.

If you think that the jobs are coming back you're out of your fucking mind. The only way we'll get more decent paying jobs is to create more govt jobs, not less, and the only way to pay for that is with higher taxes at the top. Otherwise, we'll continue to be ground down to the lowest common denominator that global labor arbitrage creates.

Well stated. Tax policy needs a lot of fixing, from a modest increase in the top marginal rates, removal of the FICA ceilings, removal of the mortgage interest deduction, removal of tax advantaged retirement accounts (401(k), IRA, and non-qualified), removal of deductions for health benefits, and removal of deductions for contributions to charitable (including religious) institutions. (It's revolting that this kind of thing gets a tax deduction.) http://www.latimes.com/business/hil...a-tax-break-universities-20160224-column.html

The only deductions should be for legitimate business expenses and middle class spending on tuition (or education, broadly).

Make those changes and use the additional revenues to fund public investment in transportation infrastructure, clean energy, and public school endowments/funding.

Unfortunately this is all extremely unlikely no matter who is elected.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
15,995
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The democrats you know are stupid then. Off POTUS election years almost always swing right. They aren't wrong this time, if Trump is the nominee and even though some will have to wait for hours and hours to vote, it's going to be a slaughter...

The only wildcard I see is if enough states are able to disenfranchise enough voters. The kind of voter that's likely to be outraged at trump is also less likely to have a drivers license, or the ability to stand in line to vote for 12 hours.
 

nickqt

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2015
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The only wildcard I see is if enough states are able to disenfranchise enough voters. The kind of voter that's likely to be outraged at trump is also less likely to have a drivers license, or the ability to stand in line to vote for 12 hours.
Which is a feature, not a bug.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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The only wildcard I see is if enough states are able to disenfranchise enough voters. The kind of voter that's likely to be outraged at trump is also less likely to have a drivers license, or the ability to stand in line to vote for 12 hours.

Outraged isn't the right term. Try disgusted- with him, the media who fawns over him, the ravers who support him & the Party of Billionaires' bad attitudes who spawned them.

And that's just Republicans.

Trump's negatives are so bad that people who don't ordinarily vote will come out to vote against him along with a strong majority of independents & damned near every Democrat in existence.

The raving Right has been begging for an attitude adjustment & I figure now is the time.
 

michal1980

Diamond Member
Mar 7, 2003
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If you cared more you'd understand the situation better. The changes in the economy over the last 35 years or so have left upper middle class families largely untouched while the lower 70% or so gets a smaller piece of the pie & the financial elite get a much bigger one. A fat slice has been taken off of the middle & lower end & piled up high in a narrow band at the top, particularly the tippy-top. That trend is continuing.

What tends to compensate somewhat has been the massive increase in credit, a highly imperfect answer at best but one that still benefits the tippy top the most. It also increases instability. The financial lite thrives on that, on market movement, because they can beat the cash out of everybody else's investments whichever way it moves due to their insider position & enormous financial cushions.

Most families don't have much of a cushion so the situation for them can go to hell in a hurry because of high overhead relative to income. They're subject to forces beyond their control to a much greater degree than people who've done well over the decades. They need growth with stability, not a financial roller coaster ride where every downturn gets bigger & the financial beating worse.

If you think that throwing out the illegals so we can have their jobs will correct that, you're delusional.

If you think that Trump's harder & deeper trickledown tax plan will help, you're also delusional.

If you think that the jobs are coming back you're out of your fucking mind. The only way we'll get more decent paying jobs is to create more govt jobs, not less, and the only way to pay for that is with higher taxes at the top. Otherwise, we'll continue to be ground down to the lowest common denominator that global labor arbitrage creates.

so we are back to the pie comparison?

Does this pie grow? or is this really a fixed size pie? Did the evil rich still some pie from someone so that they have more?
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
15,995
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so we are back to the pie comparison?

Does this pie grow? or is this really a fixed size pie? Did the evil rich still some pie from someone so that they have more?

In my view the pie grows fastest when more Americans have access to the American Dream, not fewer.
 

theeedude

Lifer
Feb 5, 2006
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Clarence Thomas wakes up from coma after Scalia dies.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...question-from-supreme-court-bench-in-10-years

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas drew gasps on Monday when he asked several questions during oral arguments.

Thomas, who hadn't asked a question since Feb. 22, 2006, broke 10 years of near silence during a case, Voisine v. U.S., involving a federal law preventing people convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence from owning firearms.

Coincidence?
 
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