SD House Passes Abortion Ban

[themusgrat]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Link

02/10/2006
SD House Approves Abortion Ban
The South Dakota House has passed a bill that would nearly ban all abortions in the state, ushering the issue to the state Senate.

Supporters are pushing the measure in hopes of drawing a legal challenge that will cause the US Supreme Court to reverse its 1973 decision legalizing abortion.

The bill banning all abortions in South Dakota was passed 47-to-22 in the House.

Amendments aimed at carving out exemptions for rape, incest and the health of women were rejected.

The bill does contain a loophole that allows abortions if women are in danger of dying. Doctors who do those abortions could not be prosecuted.

This country is headed for civil war.

I'm not all that worried about a civil war. The left believes only a well regulated militia should have the right to bear arms and when they attack with insults and knives......the war will be quick and I'll be on the winning side.

Exactly. And whoever has Texas on their side will kick the crap out of the other. Translation = Red wins.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: themusgrat

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Link

02/10/2006
SD House Approves Abortion Ban
The South Dakota House has passed a bill that would nearly ban all abortions in the state, ushering the issue to the state Senate.

Supporters are pushing the measure in hopes of drawing a legal challenge that will cause the US Supreme Court to reverse its 1973 decision legalizing abortion.

The bill banning all abortions in South Dakota was passed 47-to-22 in the House.

Amendments aimed at carving out exemptions for rape, incest and the health of women were rejected.

The bill does contain a loophole that allows abortions if women are in danger of dying. Doctors who do those abortions could not be prosecuted.

This country is headed for civil war.

I'm not all that worried about a civil war. The left believes only a well regulated militia should have the right to bear arms and when they attack with insults and knives......the war will be quick and I'll be on the winning side.

Exactly. And whoever has Texas on their side will kick the crap out of the other. Translation = Red wins.

Yeah, the same way it worked last time :roll:

 

[themusgrat]

Originally posted by: robains
I guess I don't even understand why this is an issue??

Last I checked, my body belongs to me -- or can someone legally suggest that it doesn't? What has my body got to do with someone's moral issues?

Oh, just because a fetus isn't a part of your body like your arm. It is attached by one tube that provides nutrition only. What rock have you been living on/under?

 

[themusgrat]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: themusgrat

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Link

02/10/2006
SD House Approves Abortion Ban
The South Dakota House has passed a bill that would nearly ban all abortions in the state, ushering the issue to the state Senate.

Supporters are pushing the measure in hopes of drawing a legal challenge that will cause the US Supreme Court to reverse its 1973 decision legalizing abortion.

The bill banning all abortions in South Dakota was passed 47-to-22 in the House.

Amendments aimed at carving out exemptions for rape, incest and the health of women were rejected.

The bill does contain a loophole that allows abortions if women are in danger of dying. Doctors who do those abortions could not be prosecuted.

This country is headed for civil war.

I'm not all that worried about a civil war. The left believes only a well regulated militia should have the right to bear arms and when they attack with insults and knives......the war will be quick and I'll be on the winning side.

Exactly. And whoever has Texas on their side will kick the crap out of the other. Translation = Red wins.

Yeah, the same way it worked last time :roll:

Ummm, the last time, blue states did not want to ban guns. And they had more gun factories than the South. Now, things are different.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Tab
I wonder why the issuse is so strong in South Dakota... Even in Fargo, North Dakota - most people don't like abortion, but believe it should remain legal.

It's not an issue here, as far as I know this came right out of the blue??

 

[Willoughbyva]

I think many people belive with the 2 new supreme court members that there might be a chance that abortion might be defeted. I don't think that it will be though. i kind of think like others have suggested that it is a thing that polititions want a halo effect from on other issues.


Perry

 

[shadow9d9]

This won't even come close to the Supreme Court. Bogus laws get passed ALL THE TIME.... Look at the anti-videogame bills in Illinois etc.. it is just PANDERING TO THE VOTERS... it'll get struck down before it even goes into effect.

As for those like Cyclo.. get over it.. it is allowed in this contract. Deal with it. I could not give 2 craps about your statistics.. it is a non issue for now into the indefinite future.

 

[robains]

themusgrat,

So who created this nutrition tube?

The rock I live on is planet earth. The rock I live under is "common sense". Where have you been living?

Rob.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Link

02/10/2006
SD House Approves Abortion Ban
The South Dakota House has passed a bill that would nearly ban all abortions in the state, ushering the issue to the state Senate.

Supporters are pushing the measure in hopes of drawing a legal challenge that will cause the US Supreme Court to reverse its 1973 decision legalizing abortion.

The bill banning all abortions in South Dakota was passed 47-to-22 in the House.

Amendments aimed at carving out exemptions for rape, incest and the health of women were rejected.

The bill does contain a loophole that allows abortions if women are in danger of dying. Doctors who do those abortions could not be prosecuted.

This country is headed for civil war.

I don't think this should be allowed, the Supreme Court ruled abortions are legal...

 

[OhioState]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dahunan
I really wish some of our politicians would have been aborted instead of allowing to bring their religious wrath upon us

Do you have to be religious to oppose abortion on moral grounds?

Nope it does not take a book to tell me that waiting until a baby is almost out THEN tapping a hole in its skull and suckin out the brain is a bad thing. Or killing one in any other matter .
Thank goodness for new judges.

 

[Banzai042]

Just looking at this makes me think that passing this law is pretty much the political equivelant of trolling, mostly based on the fact that they make no exception for when the life of the mother is at stake. If they wanted to actually do anything about abortion they would have left exceptions in place, but as it is now this will do nothing except alienate every single person with any slight lean towards supporting abortion. Not to mention those that think abortion overall is wrong, but don't see things as being so black and white when things like medical issues (like the mother potentially dying) are brought into the picture.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: OhioState

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dahunan
I really wish some of our politicians would have been aborted instead of allowing to bring their religious wrath upon us

Do you have to be religious to oppose abortion on moral grounds?

Nope it does not take a book to tell me that waiting until a baby is almost out THEN tapping a hole in its skull and suckin out the brain is a bad thing. Or killing one in any other matter .
Thank goodness for new judges.

Partial birth abortions have been gone for quite some time, haven't they?

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Cerb

Originally posted by: OhioState

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dahunan
I really wish some of our politicians would have been aborted instead of allowing to bring their religious wrath upon us

Do you have to be religious to oppose abortion on moral grounds?

Nope it does not take a book to tell me that waiting until a baby is almost out THEN tapping a hole in its skull and suckin out the brain is a bad thing. Or killing one in any other matter .
Thank goodness for new judges.

Partial birth abortions have been gone for quite some time, haven't they?

IIRC, the law was struck down as being un-Constitutional because it didn't provide a clause for the welfare of the mother (health wise), but I could be wrong.

 

[arsbanned]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Link

02/10/2006
SD House Approves Abortion Ban
The South Dakota House has passed a bill that would nearly ban all abortions in the state, ushering the issue to the state Senate.

Supporters are pushing the measure in hopes of drawing a legal challenge that will cause the US Supreme Court to reverse its 1973 decision legalizing abortion.

The bill banning all abortions in South Dakota was passed 47-to-22 in the House.

Amendments aimed at carving out exemptions for rape, incest and the health of women were rejected.

The bill does contain a loophole that allows abortions if women are in danger of dying. Doctors who do those abortions could not be prosecuted.

This country is headed for civil war.

I don't think this should be allowed, the Supreme Court ruled abortions are legal...

A "NO" vote on Bush would have been wiser then. Now you get to enjoy the decent into Hell with the rest of us.

Originally posted by: OhioState

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: dahunan
I really wish some of our politicians would have been aborted instead of allowing to bring their religious wrath upon us

Do you have to be religious to oppose abortion on moral grounds?

Nope it does not take a book to tell me that waiting until a baby is almost out THEN tapping a hole in its skull and suckin out the brain is a bad thing. Or killing one in any other matter .
Thank goodness for new judges.

I'll bet you often focus on that. It is a good idea in some cases though, obviously.

 

[jlmadyson]

Will be interesting to see how this pans out in the SD Senate.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Tab
I wonder why the issuse is so strong in South Dakota... Even in Fargo, North Dakota - most people don't like abortion, but believe it should remain legal.

It's not an issue here, as far as I know this came right out of the blue??

There are 35 States with the same Law ready to go into effect.

They were just waiting for the second Bush SCOTUS to get into place for the overturn of Roe V Wade.

It is already a done deal for January 2007 after the mid-term elections.

They have already prepped Police and Swat forces Nationwide for the rioting and protests.

They are also prepping Jail facilities to handle more women.

Enjoy.

 

[Meuge]

Nah... it'll be too much trouble for them. They will not do it until they already have a police state.

 

[techs]

This law will absolutely not stand.
Time and time again the Supreme Court has held that laws that don't allow an abortion when the womens health is in danger to be unconstitutional.
And if the Supreme Court ever decided to overturn Roe v Wade they will have to declare life begins at conception.
Which will change everything when a fetus has the same rights as a living person.
Imagine the incredible changes!
e.g. smoke one cigarrette during pregnancy get convicted of assault. A doctor gives you any medication that has even the SLIGHTEST effect on the fetus he goes to jail for assault. Families will get to write off children in the womb. The census will have to count fetuses as people. Fetuses will inherit money and property. Pregnant women will have to pay for health coverage for their fetus.
It would be turmoil.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: techs
And if the Supreme Court ever decided to overturn Roe v Wade they will have to declare life begins at conception.
Which will change everything when a fetus has the same rights as a living person.
Imagine the incredible changes!
e.g. smoke one cigarrette during pregnancy get convicted of assault. A doctor gives you any medication that has even the SLIGHTEST effect on the fetus he goes to jail for assault.

I've used that argument before, and it went by totally ignored. If it's a child, then smoking in the presence of a pregnant woman constitutes assault with a deadly weapon. Maybe we need to install cameras in the house where every pregnant woman lives, and monitor the progress.

Then when the child is born, and gets a lung infection, we can let him die, since his parents don't have any insurance.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Link

02/10/2006
The bill does contain a loophole that allows abortions if women are in danger of dying. Doctors who do those abortions could not be prosecuted.

I guess they don't care about life after all?

 

[1EZduzit]

On the local news last night the Govenor Rounds said he would consider signing the bill if it passes the Sentate.

They also said that there is an anyonomous person willing to contribute $1 million to the state to help battle it in court.

Sounds to me like this issue has been "bought" to be brought up. We are a poor state so we were probably the "best bargin".

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: techs
This law will absolutely not stand.
Time and time again the Supreme Court has held that laws that don't allow an abortion when the womens health is in danger to be unconstitutional.
And if the Supreme Court ever decided to overturn Roe v Wade they will have to declare life begins at conception.
Which will change everything when a fetus has the same rights as a living person.
Imagine the incredible changes!
e.g. smoke one cigarrette during pregnancy get convicted of assault. A doctor gives you any medication that has even the SLIGHTEST effect on the fetus he goes to jail for assault. Families will get to write off children in the womb. The census will have to count fetuses as people. Fetuses will inherit money and property. Pregnant women will have to pay for health coverage for their fetus.
It would be turmoil.

If mom dies during child birth, the newborn should be charged with "manslaughter" and tried as an adult.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: techs
This law will absolutely not stand.
Time and time again the Supreme Court has held that laws that don't allow an abortion when the womens health is in danger to be unconstitutional.
And if the Supreme Court ever decided to overturn Roe v Wade they will have to declare life begins at conception.
Which will change everything when a fetus has the same rights as a living person.
Imagine the incredible changes!
e.g. smoke one cigarrette during pregnancy get convicted of assault. A doctor gives you any medication that has even the SLIGHTEST effect on the fetus he goes to jail for assault. Families will get to write off children in the womb. The census will have to count fetuses as people. Fetuses will inherit money and property. Pregnant women will have to pay for health coverage for their fetus.
It would be turmoil.

If mom dies during child birth, the newborn should be charged with "manslaughter" and tried as an adult.

How long will it be before fetuses get to vote?

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: her209

Originally posted by: techs
This law will absolutely not stand.
Time and time again the Supreme Court has held that laws that don't allow an abortion when the womens health is in danger to be unconstitutional.
And if the Supreme Court ever decided to overturn Roe v Wade they will have to declare life begins at conception.
Which will change everything when a fetus has the same rights as a living person.
Imagine the incredible changes!
e.g. smoke one cigarrette during pregnancy get convicted of assault. A doctor gives you any medication that has even the SLIGHTEST effect on the fetus he goes to jail for assault. Families will get to write off children in the womb. The census will have to count fetuses as people. Fetuses will inherit money and property. Pregnant women will have to pay for health coverage for their fetus.
It would be turmoil.

If mom dies during child birth, the newborn should be charged with "manslaughter" and tried as an adult.

How long will it be before fetuses get to vote?

Diebold machines let them vote now.

 

[Paratus]

Hey now since life and rights would start at conception and ~2/3 of all fertilized eggs, oops meant "babies" sponataneously abort, doesn't trying to have child now equate to "Reckless endangerment"?