You need a link to figure that out?
Google $7.75 x 40 x 52, then Google "poverty level united states"
Of course you have a link to back that up, right?
You need a link to figure that out?
Google $7.75 x 40 x 52, then Google "poverty level united states"
You don't think they are at the poverty level now? You think none of them have fake identitys and don't collect benefits currently? I'd rather have them paying into the system. You can't deport 12-15 million people.
Except you can
The difference is that all states must follow federal law. The federal law is what makes state "equal" and ensures things are relatively fair.
Example of it being done anywhere in recent history?
Example of another country in recent history letting illegal immigration get to the point it is here now?
Russia, Greece.
Inb4 weak counterargument attributing their current economic environments to immigration.
Really? That's what you have?
What do you mean?
I thought two examples of exactly what you asked for was pretty good.
What do you mean?
I thought two examples of exactly what you asked for was pretty good.
Russia has maybe 4 million. We have 12 million.
Greece has maybe 800,000.
Neither of those countries is anywhere near close to us. And neither is one we should use as an example of anything positive.
Russia has maybe 4 million. We have 12 million.
Greece has maybe 800,000.
Neither of those countries is anywhere near close to us. And neither is one we should use as an example of anything positive.
Typically nations are compared on a per capita basis for stuff like this no?
As in: Russia is only .001% Mexican so their illegal immigration problem is nothing compared to ours!
I'm asking honestly because I am not very knowledgeable about the current events in Russia: Aren't the bulk of their illegals from former Soviet States? Also, Russia doesn't deport illegals? I always figured it was instant death trying to sneak in there illegally.
And I don't know if percentage is fair. I'm not saying it isn't, I'm just thinking 12 million has to have a bigger impact than 4 million regardless of the percentage. But I could be totally wrong since I have zero idea about what's going on in Russia.
Dear Diary:
There isn't much agreement on what the actual problem is, how severe it is, and what to do about it. I don't think it's our overall immigration policy because the focus is only on how we deal with one particular border. I don't think it's a security crisis like if the Germans invaded Pearl Harbor. I don't really think it's much of an economic problem. It's just the inevitable chaos that occurs between rich neighborhoods and poor neighborhoods.
I'm OK with relaxing the rules regarding our neighbors coming here to stay/work. The overall net effect on our economy is close enough to zero. Immigrants who work also spend, and from my experience they would mostly want contribute via taxes if it meant they could more freely pursue their goals. Yes, there are localized issues with schools and hospitals and other problems with language and culture but those don't rise very high on my give-a-shit index and are rooted elsewhere.
That leaves jobs and I guess it comes down to that I don't believe "citizenship" is worth much here. If a U.S. citizen can't compete with a dude who hitch hiked up from Mexico to spend 8 hours a day doing manual labor I have little sympathy. I don't think plopping out of your mom's hole on this side of the line should give you a pass on having to work hard.
Our focus internally should be on workplace rights and safety, enforcing compensation standards, and bringing everyone who works into the fold so they can contribute. Our border policy should be that you are welcome to come in through the front door, where you will sign in, be medically and criminally screened, and given some coupons to local businesses. Anyone who tries to skip around through the backyard could justifiably be dispatched with. Tons of Americans would love to be the border agents guarding the backyard.
Yes I enjoy having millions of people working for less than min wage, not paying their full tax burden, and consuming public resources. Sounds like a well thought out long term plan.
You are going to show them by trying to make them into felons when reforming the law.
And legalizing is going to fix that how?
If they are going working for min wage, they aren't paying taxes.
SS? They'll get more then they put in
Medicare? They'll get more then they put in
Federal taxes? Get everything back, if not more then that as an EIC
State taxes? IDK - but I doubt much
Sales taxes? Already pay now
Plus they'll now have access to all public handouts.
So how exactly is legalizing these criminals helping the USA?
And legalizing is going to fix that how?
If they are going working for min wage, they aren't paying taxes.
SS? They'll get more then they put in
Medicare? They'll get more then they put in
Federal taxes? Get everything back, if not more then that as an EIC
State taxes? IDK - but I doubt much
Sales taxes? Already pay now
Plus they'll now have access to all public handouts.
So how exactly is legalizing these criminals helping the USA?
In all honesty, I'd try to refrain from using the SS and Medicare arguments as EVERYONE who takes from SS gets more than they put in; Medicare most likely.
So a good thing to do is add more people to draw from SS?
To pay into it, sure. Don't think the vast majority of immigrants, legal or not, are 62 1/2 years old, the minimum age to draw SS. And, as has been pointed out before, you draw out relative to what you've contributed, so someone working minimum wage for most of his/her life won't draw anywhere near what someone earning, say, $60K on average for their working life.
Additionally, if Congress would remove the $100K limit on wages subject to SS contributions, that'd go a loooooong way to keeping the system solvent for decades beyond the current "insolvency date".
In all honesty, I'd try to refrain from using the SS and Medicare arguments as EVERYONE who takes from SS gets more than they put in; Medicare most likely.