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rudeguy

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I keep forgetting in the US, citizens don't feel responsible for those they put in gov
You guys should fix that, it would probably help a lot

I'd be the first in line to vote yes to kicking every single one of them out of office. Fire them all.
 

michal1980

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Says the guy who complains about immigration but was born in the United States thanks to immigrants coming from somewhere.

divert.

Come on people.

Please tell us Americans what benefits we will see from legalizing millions of low skill works.

There has to be some tangible benefit?



Oh wait there isnt because you'd have an answer to that question by now.
 

Genx87

Lifer
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divert.

Come on people.

Please tell us Americans what benefits we will see from legalizing millions of low skill works.

There has to be some tangible benefit?



Oh wait there isnt because you'd have an answer to that question by now.

That isnt a diversion. That is pointing out the stupidity of your comment. You got yours, screw the others wanting to come here. Right?

I've already answered your question if you go back and read the thread.
 

michal1980

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That isnt a diversion. That is pointing out the stupidity of your comment. You got yours, screw the others wanting to come here. Right?

I've already answered your question if you go back and read the thread.


You miss read my comment.

The america hater has his, and since he's working in a comfy government funded job, he doesn't care about the rest of Americans having to compete with an illegal work force willing to work for next to nothing.
 

rudeguy

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That isnt a diversion. That is pointing out the stupidity of your comment. You got yours, screw the others wanting to come here. Right?

I've already answered your question if you go back and read the thread.

The ultimate dramacrat projection.


Please tell us: Would you give up your job and live on welfare if it meant that an illegal family could have citizenship?
 

Genx87

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The ultimate dramacrat projection.


Please tell us: Would you give up your job and live on welfare if it meant that an illegal family could have citizenship?

That isn't even a possibility. And such a stupid way to argue. To turn your argument around. Would you keep your job if it meant somebody had to live in a ditch in squalor?
 

JockoJohnson

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How, exactly?

Self-deportation is a start. But politicians don't want that. This could be fixed if there were no jobs for illegals. Fine heavily any company employing illegals. But Rs and Ds don't want that. What other reason is there to not fine companies employing illegals --- you know, actually enforce the law.
 

rudeguy

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That isn't even a possibility. And such a stupid way to argue. To turn your argument around. Would you keep your job if it meant somebody had to live in a ditch in squalor?

Would you please answer my question before attacking and deflecting?

You're the one who broke out, "fuck you I got mine".
 

Genx87

Lifer
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Would you please answer my question before attacking and deflecting?

You're the one who broke out, "fuck you I got mine".

I'm not deflecting. I'm pointing out what a stupid question you posed that has no relevancy within this conversation. You know it so just stop.

And no, I didn't break out the fuck you I got mine. That was Micheal1980.
 

rudeguy

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I'm not deflecting. I'm pointing out what a stupid question you posed that has no relevancy within this conversation. You know it so just stop.

And no, I didn't break out the fuck you I got mine. That was Micheal1980.

Funny because I quoted where you said it.

Its so fun to watch you idiots squirm when your talking points don't work out.
 

inachu

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Funny because I quoted where you said it.

Its so fun to watch you idiots squirm when your talking points don't work out.

As you finished typing that I am sure you informed the illegal cleaning lady to don't forget to clean the bathroom.

Yes?



Those who claim to be the most patriotic americans but yet use the services illegals offer in USA.

If that is not you then forgive me as I am in error.
 

Humpy

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And those foreigners are legal.

Still haven't seen one person say what benefits Americans will get from legalizing millions of low skill, low wage, uneducated illegals.

They list benefits to the illegals but nothing that will generally benefit Americans.

The claim of millions of low skill, low wage, uneducated illegals is incorrect. All of those fit into a range of values, not just pegged at the bottom for all. A illegal who is a decent carpenter can make $15 - $20 an hour pretty easily. A drywall guy paid piecework can bust ass and earn $1000 in a week pretty consistently. Some work for far less of course.

The benefit is economic and is why, other than lip service, little has been done about illegal immigration. More workers bring more input into the economy. Government failures of collecting taxes and overspending/under-performing on services is the cause of many of the things people see and complain about and is mostly an unrelated problem.

To me, "benefits for Americans" translates to protections and handouts for those born on the right side so they don't have to put in as much effort to get what they feel entitled to.

Simply: Illegal Mexicans who work > thousands of fat tards who sit in trailers all day in Kentucky
 

rudeguy

Lifer
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As you finished typing that I am sure you informed the illegal cleaning lady to don't forget to clean the bathroom.

Yes?



Those who claim to be the most patriotic americans but yet use the services illegals offer in USA.

If that is not you then forgive me as I am in error.

Our cleaning lady is the very white, very American wife of our CFO.


Once again you don't disappoint in posting the stupidest reply to a thread. Good job you raging moron.
 

BoberFett

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The claim of millions of low skill, low wage, uneducated illegals is incorrect. All of those fit into a range of values, not just pegged at the bottom for all. A illegal who is a decent carpenter can make $15 - $20 an hour pretty easily. A drywall guy paid piecework can bust ass and earn $1000 in a week pretty consistently. Some work for far less of course.

The benefit is economic and is why, other than lip service, little has been done about illegal immigration. More workers bring more input into the economy. Government failures of collecting taxes and overspending/under-performing on services is the cause of many of the things people see and complain about and is mostly an unrelated problem.

To me, "benefits for Americans" translates to protections and handouts for those born on the right side so they don't have to put in as much effort to get what they feel entitled to.

Simply: Illegal Mexicans who work > thousands of fat tards who sit in trailers all day in Kentucky

If you want to advocate for the simultaneous elimination of welfare and opening of the borders to anyone, I'm all for it.

This country had mass immigration when if you came to this country, you worked or you died. A welfare state cannot survive unfettered immigration. Mathematics will always win.
 

Humpy

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I'd think eliminating public aid except to the truly needy (mentally handicapped, bedridden, etc.) would naturally eliminate much of the negative impact of illegal immigration making open borders irrelevant.
 

piasabird

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If we are not going to secure the border, then why do we bother with the Patriot secret police act.

Less people would come the USA if we just got rid of the Anchor Baby Provision in the USA constitution which was designed for children of slaves. I think it has outlived its purpose. It is like laws for how to secure a horse in front of the Whitehouse.
 
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