Sempron or Celeron?

[slaves123]

I'm a reseller in my country and the great mayority from the pc's I've sold were cheap ones, they're more buyed than the good ones, spetially for offices and workplaces. As they are the most common i would like to know your opinion about this topic, sempron or celeron?

I like the sempron's but honestly i haven't tested the celerons enough so as to say they're worse than the semprons.
Your opinion IS IMPORTANT and would apreciatte it very much.

Thanks guys

-Mauro-

 

[phr0m]

I would say sempron just because they have a better upgrade path then the celrons do at this moment, but you can get a athlon xp thats faster the a sempron at the same rated speed for a cheaper price. The celeron D is the only intel cpu on the prescot core that it is acutally running somewhat cool. The celeron D might be a little bit faster in some apps to, but i say both are great value processors

 

[CheesePoofs]

comparison of them here

I havn't looked at that much, but if i were to buy now without doing any research i'd get the sempron over the celeron, because AMD is simply beating the intel procs in almost everything these days.

 

[slaves123]

good points people, thank you, any other comment would be apreciatted too

 

[MDE]

Sempron or Athlon XP

 

[cyberknight]

Sempron and XP aren't in the same price range.

 

[aka1nas]

I would go for the sempron as the celeron, if anything, is more dependent on having fast, dual channel RAM to have decent performance due to the loss of L2 cache. The AMD chips benefit very little from going to dual-channel and from having extra cache, so you are losing very little performance and you don't need to worry about buying memory in pairs. There is little point in skimping on the CPU if you have to still spend more money on the RAM and other components to go along with it over choosing another solution. Performance wise, the newer celerons are much better than previous versions, but the semprons will still be cheaper when the whole system is built and be just as fast in most apps.

 

[Mikeyflan]

sempron is cheaper and faster then celeron D's. btw the only reason AMD is beating INTEL because INTEL is to busy forkin around with all the new stuff they are coming out with, like the chipsets, pci express bull and all them other play things.

 

[Jeff7181]

Why do people capitalize Intel? It's not an acronym like AMD is (Advanced Micro Devices)... so there's no reason to capitalize every letter.

 

[slaves123]

good point jess7181!
Thank you everybody, semprons will continue to be my most used processor in the low price range. Godd lich in eveything, till next time!

-Mauro-

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: cyberknight
Sempron and XP aren't in the same price range.

Compare Semprons and Athlon XPs with the same clock speed (NOT PR rating) and cache and come back.

 

[whorush]

sempron is my vote. there is a difference b/n the socket 754's and the socket A's. of course the 754's are entirely different chips and are really much better. in those cases, the athlon XP is cheaper, and you mgiht want to use that as a middle ground b/n the A's and the 754's.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Why do people capitalize Intel?

I'M NOT SURE.

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Why do people capitalize Intel?

I'M NOT SURE.

Holy bump from the dead :Q

 

[andy nowotny]

in my opinion, 754 Sempron>Celeron D>Socket A Sempron>Celeron

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: andy nowotny
in my opinion, 754 Sempron>Celeron D>Socket A Sempron>Celeron

:thumbsup:

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: cyberknight
Sempron and XP aren't in the same price range.

Compare Semprons and Athlon XPs with the same clock speed (NOT PR rating) and cache and come back.

PPL the XP line is dead...semprons are its replacement in the socket A front...soon to be replaced altogether as the semprons (AMD budget chips) move exclusively to the sckt 754 platform.....

As a budget builder I would use the sempron in the sckt A and then slowly shift over to the sckt 754 ones as the 754 mobos drop into that cheaper market like the NF2 boards........The integrated memory controller and other features of the A64 (minus the 64bit) flat out destroys Intel suck-ass celery chips....

 

[MDE]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: cyberknight
Sempron and XP aren't in the same price range.

Compare Semprons and Athlon XPs with the same clock speed (NOT PR rating) and cache and come back.

PPL the XP line is dead...semprons are its replacement in the socket A front...soon to be replaced altogether as the semprons (AMD budget chips) move exclusively to the sckt 754 platform.....

As a budget builder I would use the sempron in the sckt A and then slowly shift over to the sckt 754 ones as the 754 mobos drop into that cheaper market like the NF2 boards........The integrated memory controller and other features of the A64 (minus the 64bit) flat out destroys Intel suck-ass celery chips....

The XP line wasn't dead in JANUARY when I posted that.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: MDE

Originally posted by: cyberknight
Sempron and XP aren't in the same price range.

Compare Semprons and Athlon XPs with the same clock speed (NOT PR rating) and cache and come back.

PPL the XP line is dead...semprons are its replacement in the socket A front...soon to be replaced altogether as the semprons (AMD budget chips) move exclusively to the sckt 754 platform.....

As a budget builder I would use the sempron in the sckt A and then slowly shift over to the sckt 754 ones as the 754 mobos drop into that cheaper market like the NF2 boards........The integrated memory controller and other features of the A64 (minus the 64bit) flat out destroys Intel suck-ass celery chips....

The XP line wasn't dead in JANUARY when I posted that.

HMMMM...Yes It was!!!!! I went to Fryes in december right before Xmas to replace my sons dead xp 2100+ and they had stop selling them saying AMD had discontinued them and their supplier was no longer supplying them with them.....So he had a socket A mobo I had to get a sempron 2400+.....

So sorry it was relevant then as it is now....

 

[nemesismk2]

The Sempron 2200 is a good value cpu which offers good performance as seen here!

 

[tallman45]

I built a low end system for office use with a small for factor Asus Pundit case and used a Celeron D 320 2.4ghz.

It is very fast (light yrs faster than the older Celeron) but also very hot (Prescot core)

 

[stevty2889]

Really either should be fine, but the Sempron probably has a bit of an advantage. Of course the 64bit enabled Celerons could start showing up soon..

 

[Odeen]

What you guys have to understand is that a Socket A Sempron is NOT a crippled Athlon. It's actually an original-design Athlon XP. Some newer Athlon XP's are "better" than the original Athlon XP's

Background:
The original Athlon XP chips ran on a 133mhz FSB and had 256K L2 cache. All Athlon XP's up to 2400+, some 2600+, and all 2700+ models have 256K cache and are based on Palomino (.18 micron), Thoroughbred-A (.13 micron) and Thoroughbred-B (.13 micron) cores.

Athlon XP's 2500+, some 2600+ and all 2800+ and up are Barton cores. Barton adds another 256K L2 cache, for a 512K total, and forces a 166 mhz or higher FSB (most 256K models are 133mhz FSB, except for the 2700+, which is a 256K/166mhz part, based on the T-bred B core).

Example:
Athlon XP 2100+ is a 1.73ghz chip (13x133mhz FSB), with 256K L2 cache. The latest revisions are using the Thoroughbred-B core.
Sempron 2500+ is a 1.75ghz chip (10.5x166mhz FSB), with 256K L2 cache. All Semprons use the Thoroughbred-B core.
Athlon XP 2500+ is a 1.83ghz chip (11x166mhz FSB), with 512K L2 cache. 512K L2 cache means it's the IMPROVED Barton core.

So, a Sempron is nothing more than an original Athlon XP with a raised FSB and an inflated PR rating. Since the Athlon XP debuted with 256K L2 cache, the design is optimized for 256K but can take advantage of more cache. So, a Sempron is only cut down in performance per PR rating unit, not in actual core performance.

As far as the PR rating goes, the idea is for the PR rating to compete against a Celeron's GHz speed, whereas Athlon XP's PR rating was aimed at the P4. So, since GHz aren't equal between chip families, neither are PR ratings.

 

[Aenslead]

Sempron skt 754 is your best choice.

 

[imported_Kensai]

Sempron >> Celeron.