Senator Arlen Specter (R-PA)

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Lemon law

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Anyone who is a big enough fool to think the R or D label totally describes the political position of our politicians must be also big fans of Madison Ave. advertising agencies. Whomever has the best short sound byte slogan to describe complex issues is the winner of the day. Which changes when some advertising agencies come up with a better slogan. Why think or have free will, when advertising slogans can do your thinking for you?

Are you indoctrinated yet? Think how much fun it must be to be a robot, no more unpleasant cognitive dissidence.
 

cubeless

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he's a vain, narcissistic old piece of shit who is doing anything he can to get the prize he thinks he deserves, the appropriations chair...

i sure hope some other dem has the balls to run and doesn't back off to the machine pressure and spector gets fucked like he deserves... i am thinking of donating to whatever dem runs against him...

this is why we need term limits...
 

theeedude

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Feb 5, 2006
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Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: bbdub333
If you think Specter is doing this for anything other than his own personal benefit, you're out of your mind.

Specter has been whoring himself out to whichever side will benefit him at the time for the length of his public career. He is the epitome of the worthless modern politician whom we all rail against yet still keep voting for. Pathetic.

I totally agree. And as a Democrat, I don't wan't him. We already have enough right-wing Democrats in the party.

That's crazy talk. As Democrats, we already have a majority, so that doesn't change that, what it does is remove Republican ability to obstruct the will of the majority or hold it hostage to their demands. Also, Specter is not right wing already, and now that he doesn't have to worry about fitting in the GOP, he'll probably be even more liberal. Republicans might as well go on vacation, they have no power left. And as a Democrat, I do want that.
 

b0mbrman

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Jun 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
He was already a Democrat in every way, shape and form except for name. Now, he's just made it official.

Maybe he'll take his liberal "Republican" buddy McCain with him. We can only hope.

He was rated at 87% by the Chamber of Commerce, which means he is very pro business.
He's rated at 81% by the Christian Coalition.
He voted with Republicans about 70% of the time.

He's a moderate Republican, not some sort of 'Democrat in every way, shape, and form'.

Exactly. Although, now he'll have to move hard left for the next year if he wants to win a Democratic primary...
 

cubeless

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the pa dem machine is going to choke anyone from running against him... this is a fixed deal...
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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This Dem isn't too happy with this. Yes, it does give the Dems enough majority to block any filibusters, but "Spectre" certainly isn't a Democrat, centrist-Republican as he may be.

While I'd love to see the Democrats leave the liberal-left behind, just as I'd like to see the Republicans leave the religious-right behind..."adopting" members from the Republican party isn't the answer.

Instead of all the fucking party-line bickering, I wish these assholes in Washington (and the state houses) would get to work running the dammed country...They spend more fucking money arguing party politics than they do working on the problems that face our nation.
 

fallout man

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This is it, guys. This is what the rapture is all about.

It's time to man your weapons, because the gay liberal Martians are going to land within hours. I will pray for you.
I will be sending a shortwave signal in two weeks. AT IP address should lead you to it four times. My message will contain my location encrypted with a keyword (releveant to this forum--you'll figure it out). If you've survived the gay Martian take-over, and the swine-flu, we should pool our resources together to survive.

See you soon, brothers and sisters. I'm going underground.
 

ZeGermans

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Dec 14, 2004
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It's pretty glorious that the republicans are falling to pieces now that people see their fascist extremism for what it is.
 

ZeGermans

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Originally posted by: cubeless
the pa dem machine is going to choke anyone from running against him... this is a fixed deal...

this is the post of a person who probably thinks ACORN was the reason PA went blue
 

Hacp

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Originally posted by: fallout man
This is it, guys. This is what the rapture is all about.

It's time to man your weapons, because the gay liberal Martians are going to land within hours. I will pray for you.
I will be sending a shortwave signal in two weeks. AT IP address should lead you to it four times. My message will contain my location encrypted with a keyword (releveant to this forum--you'll figure it out). If you've survived the gay Martian take-over, and the swine-flu, we should pool our resources together to survive.

See you soon, brothers and sisters. I'm going underground.

I'm stocking up on canned goods, pepper spray, and batteries for my taser.
 

cubby1223

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I just don't see how this is all that good for the Democrats except for the temporary headline "Republicans Suck" that will last maybe a week at max.

The Democrats are able to pass anything they can whether Specter has an R next to his name or a D. Once Franken gets seated, that's 60, and the Dems will never be able to call Republicans the "party of no" again, holding back important legislation. Everything will be 100% the responsibility of the Dems.

Come the 2010 senate election, PA likely loses the choice of electing a true liberal Democrat to the Senate.

It absolutely helps give the chance for Republicans to remake themselves as fiscal conservatives, and I hope they do. It is quite funny how everyone here thinks the party should be the "big tent Republicans", but in the next post explain how Republicans of those eras are what destroyed the country :laugh: So let's give a fiscal conservative ticket a go at elections. And if they lose then they lose. But I'd like to see fiscal conservatives be on the ballet instead of more of the same "Democrat Lite" candidates.
 

fallout man

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Originally posted by: Hacp
Originally posted by: fallout man
This is it, guys. This is what the rapture is all about.

It's time to man your weapons, because the gay liberal Martians are going to land within hours. I will pray for you.
I will be sending a shortwave signal in two weeks. AT IP address should lead you to it four times. My message will contain my location encrypted with a keyword (releveant to this forum--you'll figure it out). If you've survived the gay Martian take-over, and the swine-flu, we should pool our resources together to survive.

See you soon, brothers and sisters. I'm going underground.

I'm stocking up on canned goods, pepper spray, and batteries for my taser.

Your taser will be taken out by the gay Martian EMPs. Listen to my shortwave broadcast soon, my friend. I have the solutions for your survival.
 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: cubeless
he's a vain, narcissistic old piece of shit who is doing anything he can to get the prize he thinks he deserves, the appropriations chair...

i sure hope some other dem has the balls to run and doesn't back off to the machine pressure and spector gets fucked like he deserves... i am thinking of donating to whatever dem runs against him...

this is why we need term limits...
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All well and fine cubeless, are you similarly willing to apply term limits for Mitch McConnell and Boehner?

Most of the GOP current leadership swept into power during the Newt Gingrich contract with America, they some how forgot the term limits part of the that contract.

If you are not similarly willing to toss out the other old GOP fossils, your argument is FOS.
 

quest55720

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
I just don't see how this is all that good for the Democrats except for the temporary headline "Republicans Suck" that will last maybe a week at max.

The Democrats are able to pass anything they can whether Specter has an R next to his name or a D. Once Franken gets seated, that's 60, and the Dems will never be able to call Republicans the "party of no" again, holding back important legislation. Everything will be 100% the responsibility of the Dems.

Come the 2010 senate election, PA likely loses the choice of electing a true liberal Democrat to the Senate.

It absolutely helps give the chance for Republicans to remake themselves as fiscal conservatives, and I hope they do. It is quite funny how everyone here thinks the party should be the "big tent Republicans", but in the next post explain how Republicans of those eras are what destroyed the country :laugh: So let's give a fiscal conservative ticket a go at elections. And if they lose then they lose. But I'd like to see fiscal conservatives be on the ballet instead of more of the same "Democrat Lite" candidates.

QFT It is time for fiscal conservatives to assert ourselves. When the bill comes due for all the Bush Obama spending I have a feeling fiscal conservatives will become a force.
 

cubeless

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Originally posted by: cubeless
he's a vain, narcissistic old piece of shit who is doing anything he can to get the prize he thinks he deserves, the appropriations chair...

i sure hope some other dem has the balls to run and doesn't back off to the machine pressure and spector gets fucked like he deserves... i am thinking of donating to whatever dem runs against him...

this is why we need term limits...
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All well and fine cubeless, are you similarly willing to apply term limits for Mitch McConnell and Boehner?

Most of the GOP current leadership swept into power during the Newt Gingrich contract with America, they some how forgot the term limits part of the that contract.

If you are not similarly willing to toss out the other old GOP fossils, your argument is FOS.

did i say anything about not applying term limits to everyone? nope...

your assumption is what's fos...

power corrupts... and an 80 year old guy who is trying to get a job that is for the next 6 years is just plain ridiculous...

it's like the pricks on the scotus who won't retire till they die... these guys are just all power addled, vain, self important turds...
 

runestone

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I don't care how many facelifts or hair dyes he or his wife gets, this s.o.b. was and is a phony publicity seeking backstabber, and he now is in much better like company.
 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
By the way, I highly recommend watching Fox News today. It's a wonderful mix between sadness and rage.

Quoted for posterity, you actually suggested watching Fox.
 

Mani

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Kind of funny to see republicans trying ot spin this as a positive or even neutral for them. This is very bad for republicans, and a direct result of their inquisition against party moderates.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: runestone
I don't care how many facelifts or hair dyes he or his wife gets, this s.o.b. was and is a phony publicity seeking backstabber, and he now is in much better like company.

Where do you irrational, sputtering haters of democrats come from?

You make radical fundamentalists look positively reasonable in comparison.
 

jpeyton

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It's been a fun day watching the GOP deal with this one in the spin room.
 

runestone

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"Where do you irrational, sputtering haters of democrats come from?

You make radical fundamentalists look positively reasonable in comparison."



Thanks Craig, sorry for launching that personal attack on you.



 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: ScottMac
Good riddance to the RINO-in-Chief, maybe McCain will follow him.

Hey it seems you are getting your talking points straight from El Rushbo or as David Letterman calls him "A Bag of Hot Noxious Gas"
 

retrospooty

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: Atreus21
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
he was pretty much the only democrat left in the republican party.

Fixed.

great, now republicans are saying even moderate conservatives are too liberal.

Its quite true... as a whole, the human race is too liberal for republicans... thus they are a dying race.
 
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