SGI sues ATi

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: biostud
No one is guilty until proven by court. And even if they are guilty, AMD will pay SGI the amount of money which they are entitled to and that will probably be the end of the story.

this might not hold up in court.

we know for a fact that ATi has a complex cross licensing deal with Intel and of course ATI is being acquired by AMD which also has a complex cross licensing deal with Intel.

and ATi.com is gone . . . as ATI . . . it is now AMD [period] and it's GREEN

AMD + ATI = The New AMD

look now:

http://ati.amd.com/

so the OP got his wish . . . .

now shut the FUD up

 

[GundamSonicZeroX]

Originally posted by: Griswold

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Tech Report article
B3D forum discussion link

The patent in question, known as U.S. patent 6,650,327, was filed all the way back in June 1998 and covers a "display system having floating point rasterization and floating point framebuffering."

and no, nvidia won't be sued, because unlike ATi they licenced the technology from SGI.

Its good to know (the former) Ati's business principles are mired as deep in the sewer system as their PR is.

Thank god we have people like you who know the outcome of lawsuits (which has yet to be determined by a court) beforehand.

Good boy.

:thumbsup:

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: Pantalaimon
Interesting How Gstanfor saw it fit to bring us this piece of news but didn't post this also.

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33790

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For a start, I bet NVidia doesn't own any facilities for BGA inspection. It's prolly the packaging factory doing this under contract to NVidia.

The BGA case is just an opportunistic grab by scanner technologies that will ultimately fall flat on its face. ATi's case is outright theft.

oh please... nvidia is hardly unscathed when it comes to "outright theft" of intellectual property.

nvidia has been named in multiple patent infringement suits over the years (recently settling with OPTi back in Aug over 5 patent infringements, and TDFX prior to that to name a couple).

take your boring crap elsewhere.

 

[Gstanfor]

the OPTi case was an opportunistic one. Many companies became caught up in that since they were all using the OPTi IP and believed they were entitled to do so as it was part of an long established industry standard. Reminds me strongly of rambus - deliberate deception on OPTi's part IMHO.

If by TDFX you mean 3dfx, there never was a settlement (just an IP buyout).

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: apoppin
and ATi.com is gone . . . as ATI . . . it is now AMD [period] and it;s GREEN

The site is gone, but AMD have made it clear that the ATI name, logo, and their Radeon etc. branding will not be going anywhere.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Ulfhednar

Originally posted by: apoppin
and ATi.com is gone . . . as ATI . . . it is now AMD [period] and it;s GREEN

The site is gone, but AMD have made it clear that the ATI name, logo, and their Radeon etc. branding will not be going anywhere.

they are speaking of the immediate future . . . long term, expect the ATi brand name to be minimized . . . it's the "New AMD"

nvidia is the only Major single graphic player in the market

for now

 

[Gstanfor]

I'm just waiting to see who the fanatics will line up behind now? Not XGI - ATi bought them, not S3, perhaps powerVR (or whatever they call themselves nowadays), but the most likely would have to be Trident technologies (wonder if Cirrus Logic is still kicking)?

Someone is going to require mighty deep products to get any of them, let alone a new company to the point where they can take nvidia on.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

does anyone think gstanford has become worse than usual. he really is out of control.
my guess is his wife left him cuz he was found in bed with nvidia

 

[Wreckage]

AMD has deeper pockets than ATI. Not to say that the lawsuit is invalid, it's just the timing is not a coincidence I think. I bet this gets settled out of court.

 

[apoppin]

i wonder who the nvidiots will attack now?

especially when they have AMD in their rigs
. . . their HW will be designed by ATi engineers
:Q

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: apoppin

especially when they have AMD in their rigs
. . . their HW will be designed by ATi engineers

C2D :thumbsup:

 

[Gstanfor]

Check out one of the other threads apoppin - nvidia has already acquired a company with CPU expertise and much as I've always liked AMD and their CPU products if nvidia brings a CPU to the table in future I'll not think twice about turning my back on the AMD product.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Check out one of the other threads apoppin - nvidia has already acquired a company with CPU expertise and much as I've always liked AMD and their CPU products if nvidia brings a CPU to the table in future I'll not think twice about turning my back on the AMD product.

yes . . . old news ... Stexar

it could very well signal the End of nvidia as an independent company. After intel/AMD [and maybe IBM] get thru with them someone will pick up the pieces in a fire sale.

imo they have bitten off far more than they can chew. ... like you, they are despised by their peers for their aggressiveness . . . it'll be interesting to see how this plays out

i started a thread about it in CPU Forum . . . days ago . . check it out . . . it's an interesting read . . . i'm off to work . . . i look forward to you comments

not



anyway ...

Nvidia at work on combined CPU with graphic - On 65nm in 2008

peace and aloha

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
the OPTi case was an opportunistic one. Many companies became caught up in that since they were all using the OPTi IP and believed they were entitled to do so as it was part of an long established industry standard. Reminds me strongly of rambus - deliberate deception on OPTi's part IMHO.

If by TDFX you mean 3dfx, there never was a settlement (just an IP buyout).

lol.. yea, lawsuits vs ati makes ati thieving bastards, but lawsuits vs nvidia are simply due to "opportunistic" competitors :roll:

and buying out a company you stole from doesn't negate the fact they stole in the first place...

the point here really isn't whether the suit has merit, or if ati is guilty (most reasonable folk here will wait and see the evidence and how it all pans out), i don't think anyone here is defending ati. the point is your sad agenda which is blatantly obvious here, and almost all of us (nv fans incl) find it sadly pathetic you have nothing better to do with your time....

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Tech Report article
B3D forum discussion link

The patent in question, known as U.S. patent 6,650,327, was filed all the way back in June 1998 and covers a "display system having floating point rasterization and floating point framebuffering."

and no, nvidia won't be sued, because unlike ATi they licenced the technology from SGI.

Its good to know (the former) Ati's business principles are mired as deep in the sewer system as their PR is.

^ When you're as demented as Gsanfor, everything negative goes towards your thesis (in his case, he repeatedly says that ATI's business practise is "rooted in the sweers"), everything positive goes ignored, everything positive Nvidia does is a cause for jubilation, and everything negative done by Nvidia is perfectly justifiable because it's 'not as bad' as what ATI does.

Get a life man, and quit being so petty about video cards. Sheesh.

How about the countless lawsuits against Microsoft, Intel, etc. If you're a big company, smaller companies want a piece of you. That's business.

 

[josh6079]

God, yo ufanatics are pathetic - if the title was "SGI sues nvidia" this would be important news...

So you're admitting that this thread is unimportant news since the title isn't "SGI sues nvidia?"

But because it's ATi, not nvidia in the poo, its obviously a troll post and shouldn't have any attention paid to it.

Make another thread talking about Nvidia's lawsuits. I bet no one will care either. This thread is only going still because everyone is sick of you.

Reminds me of a few years ago when the fanatics were proclaiming in forums that nvidia should be put out of business for nv30.

Why? Did ATI release a new flagship card for a different DX version that was majorly hyped and poorly performing recently? Did the R600 come and dissapoint last night or something, cause I didn't hear anything.

Your analogy is completely wrong. In the case of NV30 it was because the consumers were in direct relation with Nvidia's flop. In the case of a lawsuit between two companies, it doesn't concern the consumers at all since it's not a product that they'll use or buy.

It's more amusing that you are now the one to bring up NV30 instead of apoppin. Quit clutiching to those ropes of sand and get on with your life already.

Well... one company is out of business in its own right now and it ain't nvidia.

If they were out of business it'd be hard to have that business be sued wouldn't it?

It's no worse than what the fanatics have dished out across the web over the years, and I've fought a damn sight cleaner than them.

Is that why you're always acting so buttsore? Because B3D banned you for being a troll (something they should consider here). Although, you would probably still frequent the forums just to capture posts made by biased people only to link them on another forum that hasn't figured out your "fanatic" tangents.

Instead of hiding under the vauge blanket of "fanatic", why don't you just say the names of those who you think are "fanatics." Just come out and say them instead of being a "pathetic weakling" and hiding behind your favorite blanket-statement.

 

[imported_Crusader]

This is great news. Patents need to be protected from the apparant disregard for the law that ATI previously engaged in. License it you lowly dogs.. Nvidia did.
This type of lawless behavior in this day and age is disgusting.

 

[winr]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor


Its good to know (the former) Ati's business principles are mired as deep in the sewer system as their PR is.

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I am confused on the above staement

Why is this good ??

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: Crusader
This is great news. Patents need to be protected from the apparant disregard for the law that ATI previously engaged in. License it you lowly dogs.. Nvidia did.
This type of lawless behavior in this day and age is disgusting.

Yes because Nvidia have never been on the recieving end of a lawsuit.

Jesus Christ are you on the Nvidia payroll or what?

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Crusader
This is great news. Patents need to be protected from the apparant disregard for the law that ATI previously engaged in. License it you lowly dogs.. Nvidia did.
This type of lawless behavior in this day and age is disgusting.

Nvidia hit with patent infringement lawsuit
19th September 2006

Nvidia has been accused of patent infringement. Minneapolis-based Scanner Technologies claims it owns techniques that the GPU maker uses in the manufacture of ball grid array (BGA) chip-pin layouts without its permission. It said the alleged infringement was "willful and deliberate".

This is great news. Patents need to be protected from the apparant disregard for the law that Nvidia engages in. License it you lowly dogs... This type of lawless behavior in this day and age is disgusting.


We can go back and forth like this all day if you'd like. But instead, why don't you grow up a bit, realize that neither company is employed by angels/devils and just enjoy the new toys they both make.

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Crusader
This is great news. Patents need to be protected from the apparant disregard for the law that ATI previously engaged in. License it you lowly dogs.. Nvidia did.
This type of lawless behavior in this day and age is disgusting.

Nvidia hit with patent infringement lawsuit
19th September 2006

Nvidia has been accused of patent infringement. Minneapolis-based Scanner Technologies claims it owns techniques that the GPU maker uses in the manufacture of ball grid array (BGA) chip-pin layouts without its permission. It said the alleged infringement was "willful and deliberate".

This is great news. Patents need to be protected from the apparant disregard for the law that Nvidia engages in. License it you lowly dogs... This type of lawless behavior in this day and age is disgusting.

We can go back and forth like this all day if you'd like. But instead, why don't you grow up a bit, realize that neither company is employed by angels/devils and just enjoy the new toys they both make.

:laugh: :beer:

 

[Dean]

This is too funny. I cannot believe how some people get so much up in arms over video card companies. Nvidia vs. ATI, Allies vs. Axis, or is it vice versa? I personally find both companies evil for the prices they charge for flagship cards. With me the better company is always the one that offers the best bang for the buck, at any given time.

My devotion is to my wallet.

 

[Ulfhednar]

Originally posted by: Dean
With me the better company is always the one that offers the best bang for the buck, at any given time.

My devotion is to my wallet.

True words of wisdom.

If the 7900GTO had been out before I bought my X1900XT then I would have bought one of those instead.

Hell, had the 7950GX2 been cheaper I would have bought one of those months ago.

Not keen on G80 or R600 as I am always careful about new tech (prefer to let others test the water before I dive in) but their refreshes will be of keen interest to me and will end up my next purchase.

 

[josh6079]

Originally posted by: winr

Originally posted by: Gstanfor


Its good to know (the former) Ati's business principles are mired as deep in the sewer system as their PR is.

************************************************************************

I am confused on the above staement

Why is this good ??

Because he's a deranged fanboy whose egocentric security is based around the notion that ATI is the worst business in the world and anything of the contrary would kill the poor dork.

Originally posted by: Dean
This is too funny. I cannot believe how some people get so much up in arms over video card companies. Nvidia vs. ATI, Allies vs. Axis, or is it vice versa? I personally find both companies evil for the prices they charge for flagship cards. With me the better company is always the one that offers the best bang for the buck, at any given time.

My devotion is to my wallet.

:thumbsup:

 

[CP5670]

Looks like the video forum is back to its old ways. I needed some laughs anyway after a rough day today.