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Gstanfor

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Time will tell...

I was called nuts for purchasing a Geforce 256 instead of a voodoo card ,called nuts for thinking GeForce3 & Dx8 would revolutionize gaming, called nuts for thinking thatmost games would use DX8 instead of DX9 (when DX9 was new) because of XBOX being L.C.D., called nuts for purchasing a GeForce FX, called nuts for saying the athlon was a superior x86 processor than anything intel had at the time, I was nuts for thinking the nForce1 was grat motherboard technology etc etc...

I find I can happily live with being called by nuts by my critics -- history is on my side, not theirs...
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Time will tell...

I was called nuts for purchasing a Geforce 256 instead of a voodoo card ,called nuts for thinking GeForce3 & Dx8 would revolutionize gaming, called nuts for thinking thatmost games would use DX8 instead of DX9 (when DX9 was new) because of XBOX being L.C.D., called nuts for purchasing a GeForce FX, called nuts for saying the athlon was a superior x86 processor than anything intel had at the time, I was nuts for thinking the nForce1 was grat motherboard technology etc etc...

I find I can happily live with being called by nuts by my critics -- history is on my side, not theirs...

You didn't answer my question.
Then why didn't Nvidia just buyout ATI? If Nvidia is as unstoppable as you make them out to be, why didn't they put up the dough and use their superior managing skills to purchase their closest competitor?
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Why would nvidia want to saddle themselves with losers???
Eh, they "saddled" themselves with you didn't they?

Honestly G, is that all you've got? Because they didn't want to work with losers? Grow up already.
 

Gstanfor

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Both. The engineers and other staff are every bit as bad as the fanboys, and have lied their arses off at every opportunity.
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Both. The engineers and other staff are every bit as bad as the fanboys, and have lied their arses off at every opportunity.
And do any of those staff members frequent B3D by any chance?

Honeslty I think you're only experience with ATI staff was on that forum and you constantly show us how emotionally distraught your bannishment made you.
 

Gstanfor

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Not my fault they don't turn up here and my banning (through embarrassing Baumann one time too many) has got nothing to do with what they did or didn't say - anyone can search the forums and see for themselves.

B3D was and still is one giant ATi focus group - and we all know who headed the focus group up...
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Not my fault they don't turn up here and my banning (through embarrassing Baumann one time too many) has got nothing to do with what they did or didn't say - anyone can search the forums and see for themselves.

B3D was and still is one giant ATi focus group - and we all know who headed the focus group up...

By that logic I could say that Nvidia's staff has lied their arses off at every opportunity because of Rollo. If you're going to base the workforce of ATI off of a focus group, the same could be done with Rollo's posting and AEG.

That's just another key example of how similar both companies really are. Just like your attempt at bringing us news about some ATI lawsuite that Nvidia is guilty of as well. There isn't much of a difference between the two vendors. Yes, there are pros and cons for each, but as far as their products go you're going to have nice benefits for whichever one you choose.

I fail to see how any of the important engineers playing major roles in the development of ATI's GPU cores are liars. I think you're only knowledge of ATI's employees is the PR team or at least a small portion of it and they're not responsible for making the products that gives ATI such supporters.

I just get the feeling like you think it's ATI's core engineers' fault for making such great products that in turn create a devoted fanbase. If they do their job well and make a great product, you think they're trash because it makes such "fanatical" fans. If they do their job poorly, you think their trash because they didn't provide a good enough product.
 

Gstanfor

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Except that Rollo never worked for nvidia, whereas sireric, humus, opengl guy etc most assuredly DO (did) work for ATi

sir eric for example is Eric Demners - ATi's senior GPU architect.
 

BFG10K

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The engineers and other staff are every bit as bad as the fanboys, and have lied their arses off at every opportunity.
You mean like the nVidia engineer that told you it's not possible to get TrAA working on NV4x cards?
 

Gstanfor

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I don't actually know if it was an engineer who said that. In response to one of Rollo's PM's a long while back I asked if he would put an email of mine that went unanswered under nvidia's nose for me (i've linked a copy of all this in these forums previously). Rollo replied back that he was told it wasn't possible to get T:AA working on nv4x. He never specified who told him that though.
 

josh6079

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
I don't actually know if it was an engineer who said that. In response to one of Rollo's PM's a long while back I asked if he would put an email of mine that went unanswered under nvidia's nose for me (i've linked a copy of all this in these forums previously). Rollo replied back that he was told it wasn't possible to get T:AA working on nv4x. He never specified who told him that though.
Since Rollo had inside connections it was either:

A) An Nvidia PR team member.

B) An Nvidia Engineer.

Either way you still have the same thing: "engineers and other staff lying their arses off", even in Nvidia.
 

Gstanfor

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Unfortunately for the fanatics rollo was neither.

He was an outsider who had an insider friend who got him into AEG.

Better luck next time with the weazel words.
 

josh6079

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Since Rollo had inside connections...
He was an outsider who had an insider friend...
We said the same thing, so I don't quite understand what you mean by "weazel words."

:laugh: No matter how much you try to tread off somewhere else the fact remains that Nvidia and ATi are more alike than you want to believe.

Both companies get into lawsuites, both have employees who have lied in the past, and both have their fair share of fanboys. "G" stands for "Get over it."
 

Gstanfor

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Oh, I think you understand the meaning of weasel words very well indeed Josh, as do most of the fanatics...
 

Ulfhednar

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Originally posted by: Crusader
Elfdinner- I've got your number anytime you want to compare lives or anything else. Limey is just like calling me a yank. I take pride in the Yankee title. I guess we have a lot to be proud of though.
Whats wrong, not proud of being british or something? That must suck to live that way. Doh.
I don't call Americans "Yanks," it's called common courtesy and not being a flipping moron. Maybe more people would actually like you and take you seriously if you followed this example.

If this is how you cover your arse after making yourself look like a total hypocrite and idiot then I have to say it's a dire attempt.
 

WelshBloke

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Time will tell...

I was called nuts for purchasing a Geforce 256 instead of a voodoo card ,called nuts for thinking GeForce3 & Dx8 would revolutionize gaming, called nuts for thinking thatmost games would use DX8 instead of DX9 (when DX9 was new) because of XBOX being L.C.D., called nuts for purchasing a GeForce FX, called nuts for saying the athlon was a superior x86 processor than anything intel had at the time, I was nuts for thinking the nForce1 was grat motherboard technology etc etc...

I find I can happily live with being called by nuts by my critics -- history is on my side, not theirs...


We don't think your nuts for those reasons, we think your nuts because you sound like a paranoid obsessive megalomaniac.


 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Time will tell...

I was called nuts for purchasing a Geforce 256 instead of a voodoo card ,called nuts for thinking GeForce3 & Dx8 would revolutionize gaming, called nuts for thinking thatmost games would use DX8 instead of DX9 (when DX9 was new) because of XBOX being L.C.D., called nuts for purchasing a GeForce FX, called nuts for saying the athlon was a superior x86 processor than anything intel had at the time, I was nuts for thinking the nForce1 was grat motherboard technology etc etc...

I find I can happily live with being called by nuts by my critics -- history is on my side, not theirs...


We don't think your nuts for those reasons, we think your nuts because you sound like a paranoid obsessive megalomaniac.


I actually think that is what he is going for. Believe it or not. A lot of people on this forum seem to go over the top to get some attention, or "noteriety". Especially if they are banned from another forum. There was a sudden change in Gstanfor in the past month or so. Something traumatic happened to him obviously. This is his way of acting out. Most people who act out break furniture or punch walls or cut themselves. Instead, he uses this forum to act out and it's just not enough. He needs to get out. Get a second job. Spend less time at home.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: WelshBloke
Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Time will tell...

I was called nuts for purchasing a Geforce 256 instead of a voodoo card ,called nuts for thinking GeForce3 & Dx8 would revolutionize gaming, called nuts for thinking thatmost games would use DX8 instead of DX9 (when DX9 was new) because of XBOX being L.C.D., called nuts for purchasing a GeForce FX, called nuts for saying the athlon was a superior x86 processor than anything intel had at the time, I was nuts for thinking the nForce1 was grat motherboard technology etc etc...

I find I can happily live with being called by nuts by my critics -- history is on my side, not theirs...


We don't think your nuts for those reasons, we think your nuts because you sound like a paranoid obsessive megalomaniac.


I actually think that is what he is going for. Believe it or not. A lot of people on this forum seem to go over the top to get some attention, or "noteriety". Especially if they are banned from another forum. There was a sudden change in Gstanfor in the past month or so. Something traumatic happened to him obviously. This is his way of acting out. Most people who act out break furniture or punch walls or cut themselves. Instead, he uses this forum to act out and it's just not enough. He needs to get out. Get a second job. Spend less time at home.

nice analysis



keep taking notes . . . hopefully he will get what he is working for . . .

banned from ATF . . .
:Q

i Do look forward to that
:thumbsup:
 

Gstanfor

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Nothing strange about it. The fanatics (josh and appopin in particular) have made a point of harrassing me lately, so I've harrassed right back.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Nothing strange about it. The fanatics (josh and appopin in particular) have made a point of harrassing me lately, so I've harrassed right back.

all your flamebait posts and personal attacks are there for everyone to see ... including your defeat of the language filter ... you have started to aggressively attack anyone who disagrees with you

please continue to escalate your harrasment, attacks and aggressiveness . . . i look forward to your ban from ATF --which is well-deserved imo.
:thumbsup:
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: Crusader
This is great news. Patents need to be protected from the apparant disregard for the law that ATI previously engaged in. License it you lowly dogs.. Nvidia did.
This type of lawless behavior in this day and age is disgusting.

well, except for the ones that nvidia didn't license and got sued over...
 
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