Should I Buy WoW?

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Personally, I'd avoid MMORPGs unless you have a significant chunk to dedicate to them. You'll end up with a far richer experience from a good CRPG than you would an MMORPG.

If you have plenty of free time, an MMORPG can be an amazingly enjoyable and rich experience. That said, WoW is NOT an MMORPG......at least no more so than a moped is a motorcycle....i.e. "technically" but not really.

I've played all of them, for the most part, and would have to disagree. I don't care for how WoW turned out compared to what the devs said prelaunch but I still think it's just as much an mmorpg as anything else.

I think you posted that as bait so I'm going to take it. Why is it only 'technically' a mmorpg? Because it seems more simple than games like EQ? Because the crafting doesn't require you to get carpal tunnel a la DAOC? Because you don't have to camp the same set of mobs for hours upon hours to get the next bubble a la almost every other mmorpg out there?

But, like I said, I don't play the game anymore so what do I care.

HoP likes to hate on WoW. he's been doing it for a year now, you'd think he would tire of it. it was definately posted as bait, best to just ignore him.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: thecoroner
I'm relatively new to MMORPGs. After seeing a movie making fun of people who buy all their ranks and items on Ebay, I noticed how cool the game was. The graphics are great and there seems to be no shortage of players to converse with.

Right now, I'm waiting for Oblivion and this game seems somewhat similar to it. Unfortunately, I don't always have time to play games online. I usually clock in less than an hour of gaming a day, if anything. I could probably give an hour a day and 3 hours on a weekend day to this game.

Is WoW worth it for someone who can't play all the time? Will I find myself way behind everyone else who has time to play 10 hours a day? And besides that, what else can you do in the game besides combat with other players?

it's a fun game, but it will suck the life out of you.

it will only do that if you let it, with some self controll its just like anything else, now i play wow more then many others but i dont watch television at all, its just replaceing 1 thing with another

that's how it starts! then the next thing you know you're playing 10 hours a day, because your guild wants to do BWL 3 times a week and you have to grind for repair bills and an epic mount and potions and ARRRRRRGH.

anyway, i have no self control. so i deleted my 2 lvl 60s and retired from WoW.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I think you posted that as bait so I'm going to take it. Why is it only 'technically' a mmorpg? Because it seems more simple than games like EQ? Because the crafting doesn't require you to get carpal tunnel a la DAOC? Because you don't have to camp the same set of mobs for hours upon hours to get the next bubble a la almost every other mmorpg out there?

I've covered it before and was just reprising it for the new guy. The quick answer is that the only reason to play an MMORPG is to have your gaming experience shaped and affected by other players. WoW does NOT accomplish this.....even their paltry PvP servers. DAoC does a slightly better job, and you should know this, because the entire end game is played out on a giant interactive battlefield. As for EQ, I think that game is the pinnacle of all that is wrong with "MMORPGs" and we can blame the current abhorrent state of the genre on Sony/Verant.

 

[ft66]

I'd say play it until you get to 60. It's a great pre-60 game. Very much worth the monthly fee (until 60 that is).

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I think you posted that as bait so I'm going to take it. Why is it only 'technically' a mmorpg? Because it seems more simple than games like EQ? Because the crafting doesn't require you to get carpal tunnel a la DAOC? Because you don't have to camp the same set of mobs for hours upon hours to get the next bubble a la almost every other mmorpg out there?

I've covered it before and was just reprising it for the new guy. The quick answer is that the only reason to play an MMORPG is to have your gaming experience shaped and affected by other players. WoW does NOT accomplish this.....even their paltry PvP servers. DAoC does a slightly better job, and you should know this, because the entire end game is played out on a giant interactive battlefield. As for EQ, I think that game is the pinnacle of all that is wrong with "MMORPGs" and we can blame the current abhorrent state of the genre on Sony/Verant.

EQ pre-Sony was the pinnacle of all that was right with MMORPGs. Just because you couldn't sit around griefing newbies all day (based on your other posts its obvious this is why you love a PvP ruleset so much) and thus didn't like it doesn't mean others agree or that EQ wasn't a fantastic game. It's unfortunate it went to sh!t when Brad left due to Sony's greed and incompetence.

 

[Acanthus]

i wouldnt play it if i could go back, i wasted a ton of time on it, and it really wasnt all that fun looking back.

 

[DPmaster]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
i wouldnt play it if i could go back, i wasted a ton of time on it, and it really wasnt all that fun looking back.

That's something I've never understood: People who "waste" a ton of time on something they don't consider fun. If it's not fun, then drop it and go on to something else. You shouldn't have to spend a "ton" of time on something before you realize it's not fun.

 

[crownjules]

Don't waste your time. Play EVE.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: crownjules
Don't waste your time. Play EVE.

Where the only ruleset is world PvP, which allows 12 year olds to get back at the world by griefing you. Yeah, sounds awesome...

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: DPmaster

Originally posted by: Acanthus
i wouldnt play it if i could go back, i wasted a ton of time on it, and it really wasnt all that fun looking back.

That's something I've never understood: People who "waste" a ton of time on something they don't consider fun. If it's not fun, then drop it and go on to something else. You shouldn't have to spend a "ton" of time on something before you realize it's not fun.

You get locked into the "if i get this, ill own and have fun" mentality, so you waste a ton of time trying to get to that level of power. It never comes.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: DPmaster

Originally posted by: Acanthus
i wouldnt play it if i could go back, i wasted a ton of time on it, and it really wasnt all that fun looking back.

That's something I've never understood: People who "waste" a ton of time on something they don't consider fun. If it's not fun, then drop it and go on to something else. You shouldn't have to spend a "ton" of time on something before you realize it's not fun.

You get locked into the "if i get this, ill own and have fun" mentality, so you waste a ton of time trying to get to that level of power. It never comes.

I'd argue that this is a fault with the player and not the game.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: DPmaster

Originally posted by: Acanthus
i wouldnt play it if i could go back, i wasted a ton of time on it, and it really wasnt all that fun looking back.

That's something I've never understood: People who "waste" a ton of time on something they don't consider fun. If it's not fun, then drop it and go on to something else. You shouldn't have to spend a "ton" of time on something before you realize it's not fun.

You get locked into the "if i get this, ill own and have fun" mentality, so you waste a ton of time trying to get to that level of power. It never comes.

I'd argue that this is a fault with the player and not the game.

Oh yeah people get "addicted" to the fun of grinding the exact same dungeon 70 times. Its a blast.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: DPmaster

Originally posted by: Acanthus
i wouldnt play it if i could go back, i wasted a ton of time on it, and it really wasnt all that fun looking back.

That's something I've never understood: People who "waste" a ton of time on something they don't consider fun. If it's not fun, then drop it and go on to something else. You shouldn't have to spend a "ton" of time on something before you realize it's not fun.

You get locked into the "if i get this, ill own and have fun" mentality, so you waste a ton of time trying to get to that level of power. It never comes.

I'd argue that this is a fault with the player and not the game.

Oh yeah people get "addicted" to the fun of grinding the exact same dungeon 70 times. Its a blast.

Then stop grinding it. Why people cry and point fingers of blame at the developers of a game which they bought bought and chose to play in a certain manner is a mystery to me. I guess it ties into the blame-free trend we've seen overtake modern society, where you can pour a cup of coffee on yourself, sue someone else for the burns and win...

 

[Xyclone]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
No, if you value your life, DONT DO IT!

QFT

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: DPmaster

Originally posted by: Acanthus
i wouldnt play it if i could go back, i wasted a ton of time on it, and it really wasnt all that fun looking back.

That's something I've never understood: People who "waste" a ton of time on something they don't consider fun. If it's not fun, then drop it and go on to something else. You shouldn't have to spend a "ton" of time on something before you realize it's not fun.

You get locked into the "if i get this, ill own and have fun" mentality, so you waste a ton of time trying to get to that level of power. It never comes.

I'd argue that this is a fault with the player and not the game.

Oh yeah people get "addicted" to the fun of grinding the exact same dungeon 70 times. Its a blast.

Then stop grinding it. Why people cry and point fingers of blame at the developers of a game which they bought bought and chose to play in a certain manner is a mystery to me. I guess it ties into the blame-free trend we've seen overtake modern society, where you can pour a cup of coffee on yourself, sue someone else for the burns and win...

Youre not level 60 i bet.

Or youre one of those people that somehow enjoys leveling 6 alts.

 

[Powermoloch]

WoW will suck your soul.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: DPmaster

Originally posted by: Acanthus
i wouldnt play it if i could go back, i wasted a ton of time on it, and it really wasnt all that fun looking back.

That's something I've never understood: People who "waste" a ton of time on something they don't consider fun. If it's not fun, then drop it and go on to something else. You shouldn't have to spend a "ton" of time on something before you realize it's not fun.

You get locked into the "if i get this, ill own and have fun" mentality, so you waste a ton of time trying to get to that level of power. It never comes.

I'd argue that this is a fault with the player and not the game.

Oh yeah people get "addicted" to the fun of grinding the exact same dungeon 70 times. Its a blast.

Then stop grinding it. Why people cry and point fingers of blame at the developers of a game which they bought bought and chose to play in a certain manner is a mystery to me. I guess it ties into the blame-free trend we've seen overtake modern society, where you can pour a cup of coffee on yourself, sue someone else for the burns and win...

Youre not level 60 i bet.

Or youre one of those people that somehow enjoys leveling 6 alts.

My main 60 rogue is in a guild hoping to take down Rag for the first time next week, alt 60 shaman (former main) is grinding out the PvP ranks & BSing with friends who had left to go back to EQ, and then left EQ to come back to WoW, working on getting a hunter & lock to 40 (both almost there) and have a druid & warrior in the low 20s for good measure.

 

[Tangerines]

I had WoW for a couple months. However, the constant Chuck Norris jokes spouted out by people get really tedious and annoying, as does the xenophobic, elitist level 60 instancing community in addition to the constant server instability. It is not something I'd like to experience again.

 

[MetalMat]

How much sex you wanna have?

 

[oogabooga]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: oogabooga
You will be behind. That is fact. Even if you started right now and played 16+ hours daily - you will be behind for at least weeks and even then probally never catch up to the 'top tier'.

Playing from 1-60 is pretty fun. Lot of quests, and group contents. But if you join an older server you will find yourself hopeflessly behind the curve - have trouble finding groups for content your level, and have to deal with massively inflated economies.

It's a fun game and playing casually is possible, you just wont be anywhere near the top - and once you hit 60 there will pretty much be nothing left save endgame content that will recuire you to play more.

thats a lod of BS.
if he starts on a new server or relatively new server, he won't be behind. plus there's always people starting alts on the established servers.

exactly, even on my server "chromaggus" which is listed as high pop on the realm selection screen but "low" on the realm status page from wow.com there are plenty of low levels, hell there are at least 30 in our guild that are lower then 20 and you can hit 12 in like 3 hours so its not hard to find people to play with

He will be behind. Getting ganked by the 60 warrior with ash'kandi will be fun when you're questing at 30 in STV. Also - i said on an older server he'd have trouble finding groups, most lowbies on release servers are there since they are alts, been playing for awhile and never leveled, know someone, or have the time to reach the curve.

Chromag is one of the newer servers i believe, and btw pop size is inflated atm - every server is some version of full or high pop. Artifically or hardware restrictions, this is what seems to be the case.

this is all my opinion of course - and i said in my first post that it's possible to play and have a good time casually.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: oogabooga
He will be behind. Getting ganked by the 60 warrior with ash'kandi will be fun when you're questing at 30 in STV. Also - i said on an older server he'd have trouble finding groups, most lowbies on release servers are there since they are alts, been playing for awhile and never leveled, know someone, or have the time to reach the curve.

If you're level 30 it doesn't matter if that 60 warr is wielding an ash'kandi, a doomsaw or a green ____ of the bear. IMO having a ruleset which allows ganking rather than capping the level difference at say, 5-10 is just silly on Blizzard's part... but then, no one's forcing anyone to play on PvP servers, so gank-ees have no right to complain. As far as groups, I think it depends if you play the dominant faction. I can't imagine finding one horde-side as a lowbie on my server for instance (one of the originals; Nef's been on farm for many a guild for months now). Thus all my alts are alliance, and lower level groups aren't a problem to find. Nicer yet, the fact many lower levels are alts makes for a much smoother experience as you don't have someone learning the hard way that their leet mage tanking build isn't really going to work out well, or that healing means healing others, not just themself after they've overaggro'd.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: oogabooga

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: oogabooga
You will be behind. That is fact. Even if you started right now and played 16+ hours daily - you will be behind for at least weeks and even then probally never catch up to the 'top tier'.

Playing from 1-60 is pretty fun. Lot of quests, and group contents. But if you join an older server you will find yourself hopeflessly behind the curve - have trouble finding groups for content your level, and have to deal with massively inflated economies.

It's a fun game and playing casually is possible, you just wont be anywhere near the top - and once you hit 60 there will pretty much be nothing left save endgame content that will recuire you to play more.

thats a lod of BS.
if he starts on a new server or relatively new server, he won't be behind. plus there's always people starting alts on the established servers.

exactly, even on my server "chromaggus" which is listed as high pop on the realm selection screen but "low" on the realm status page from wow.com there are plenty of low levels, hell there are at least 30 in our guild that are lower then 20 and you can hit 12 in like 3 hours so its not hard to find people to play with

He will be behind. Getting ganked by the 60 warrior with ash'kandi will be fun when you're questing at 30 in STV. Also - i said on an older server he'd have trouble finding groups, most lowbies on release servers are there since they are alts, been playing for awhile and never leveled, know someone, or have the time to reach the curve.

Chromag is one of the newer servers i believe, and btw pop size is inflated atm - every server is some version of full or high pop. Artifically or hardware restrictions, this is what seems to be the case.

this is all my opinion of course - and i said in my first post that it's possible to play and have a good time casually.

yes chromaggus is newer, only like 3 months old i beleive, however there are allready plenty of pvp rank 13s and a bunch of guilds that can clear MC and BWL

and FWIW i soloed 99% of quests up untill about lvl 55 (not counting instance quests), i can count on 1 hand the number of times i was ganked in STV, and yes i play on a PVP server, i got ganked more in freeking ashenvale then i did in STV

and no matter when he starts he will be behind, those that started when it came out were basicially behind those in teh beta cause they were noobs and teh betas basically wernt

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: Acanthus

Originally posted by: DPmaster

Originally posted by: Acanthus
i wouldnt play it if i could go back, i wasted a ton of time on it, and it really wasnt all that fun looking back.

That's something I've never understood: People who "waste" a ton of time on something they don't consider fun. If it's not fun, then drop it and go on to something else. You shouldn't have to spend a "ton" of time on something before you realize it's not fun.

You get locked into the "if i get this, ill own and have fun" mentality, so you waste a ton of time trying to get to that level of power. It never comes.

I'd argue that this is a fault with the player and not the game.

Oh yeah people get "addicted" to the fun of grinding the exact same dungeon 70 times. Its a blast.

Then stop grinding it. Why people cry and point fingers of blame at the developers of a game which they bought bought and chose to play in a certain manner is a mystery to me. I guess it ties into the blame-free trend we've seen overtake modern society, where you can pour a cup of coffee on yourself, sue someone else for the burns and win...

Youre not level 60 i bet.

Or youre one of those people that somehow enjoys leveling 6 alts.

My main 60 rogue is in a guild hoping to take down Rag for the first time next week, alt 60 shaman (former main) is grinding out the PvP ranks & BSing with friends who had left to go back to EQ, and then left EQ to come back to WoW, working on getting a hunter & lock to 40 (both almost there) and have a druid & warrior in the low 20s for good measure.

5 alts, i was close.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I think you posted that as bait so I'm going to take it. Why is it only 'technically' a mmorpg? Because it seems more simple than games like EQ? Because the crafting doesn't require you to get carpal tunnel a la DAOC? Because you don't have to camp the same set of mobs for hours upon hours to get the next bubble a la almost every other mmorpg out there?

I've covered it before and was just reprising it for the new guy. The quick answer is that the only reason to play an MMORPG is to have your gaming experience shaped and affected by other players. WoW does NOT accomplish this.....even their paltry PvP servers. DAoC does a slightly better job, and you should know this, because the entire end game is played out on a giant interactive battlefield. As for EQ, I think that game is the pinnacle of all that is wrong with "MMORPGs" and we can blame the current abhorrent state of the genre on Sony/Verant.

I can agree with this to an extent. My favorite massive was Shadowbane but unfortunately I was more in love with the idea of the game than the actual execution of the game because frankly the coding sucked. Constant crashing to desktop is not fun but that was definately the most involved I ever felt in a mmorpg.

I guess when I refer to WoW as being perfectly fine I should say that from a PvE perspect WoW is one of the best. The PvP blows.

 

[PrayForDeath]

I started playing it 2 months ago. Most of the people in my guild are relatively new, and many of them play casually. I am having a LOT of fun right now. And I am thinking as soon as I hit lvl 60, I'll play for a little more, then create an Alliance character (now I am Horde) and enjoy another class. When I hit 60 with the second character, I'll probably just sell the game and play Oblivion.
It's a lot of fun for 15$ a month.