That's probably true, but I think a nice long hard shutdown will stick in the minds of voters and at least in the near term will generate more enmity for the hard left. Yes Trump could undue a lot of those political "gains" with some tweets but so far it hasn't seemed to hurt his support to voters in swing states at all. Take Ohio, for example, and the funny segment from a few days ago that cnn ran on democrats who voted for Trump in Youngstown.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...at_trump_supporters_think_one_year_later.html
It just goes to show that Dems and MSM are still completely out of touch with the voters who can truly swing a presidential election like Rust Belt voters.
Yep I'm back, but my free time is limited. Genius and athletic prowess are apparently in high demand with a seemingly endless supply of idiots to pay for it. So suffice it to say I've been focusing my efforts on investments in the past year since sensible dialogue/discussion was lacking here when I left. Simple supply and demand. I pop in from time to time to watch the gnashing of teeth over Trump. I warned you guys that he was going to win but nobody listened and it's a year later and a lot of his promises are coming true, especially the tax cuts which I also told you would be a mugging of the Fed vaults as a modern day Robin Hood. And that's exactly what he did, to hell with deficits.This is the first I’ve seen of speedy in months. I wonder why he and LK ran away?
Speedy?
That isn't a Rust Belt voter, try again - she's too fancy. Maybe the black girl who is a Trump voting democrat from my previous link can clue you in... I know, it's hard to watch for you. Get ready to lose Ohio in 2020 again unless Dems can magically figure out how to get a message that resonates with real Americans from the midwest.
unreal
That isn't a Rust Belt voter, try again - she's too fancy. Maybe the black girl who is a Trump voting democrat from my previous link can clue you in... I know, it's hard to watch for you. Get ready to lose Ohio in 2020 again unless Dems can magically figure out how to get a message that resonates with real Americans from the midwest.
No. Electorally they are second class citizens.so people from california arent real americans?
The Republicans maneuvered in a dirty handed way. The Democrats had to reject it. It's bullshit to blame Dems. The House Republicans and Trump ear benders are underhanded, low life scumLet's keep this simple.
By definition, a continuing resolution means ZERO policy changes, yes?
Was a CR offered, and did Democrats reject it?
He tagged out right after this gem a year ago:
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...ve-voted-for-hillary-in-the-election.2498169/
Have we witnessed this before?And tagged in just as Taj was taking a whipping...
Electorally, they are the same as everyone else. Ideologically, they are in a bubble. The majority of Dreamers reside in California, Texas and New York.No. Electorally they are second class citizens.
Electorally, they are the same as everyone else. Ideologically, they are in a bubble. The majority of Dreamers reside in California, Texas and New York.
For someone in blue collar Ohio or Michigan or Pennsylvania, DACA is not a reason to shut down the government. Trump is playing to them.
Let's keep this simple.
By definition, a continuing resolution means ZERO policy changes, yes?
Was a CR offered, and did Democrats reject it?
We've gone in this circle before, that is a feature not a bug.Hardly. Slaves used be counted as 3/5 of a person when it came to the census.
For presidential electoral votes, voters in California only get 1/3 the voting power of someone in Wyoming for example. New York, and Texas are treated similarly.
If you believe in equality and 1 person = 1 vote you should find I disturbing that constitutionally rural states are more equal than others thanks to the electoral college.
We have, which is why I corrected your comment. We are not treated the same, as the whole point of the electoral college was to allow certain votes to count over others,(whites over slaves in the south, the electoral college over everyone, low population states over large).We've gone in this circle before, that is a feature not a bug.
I would say that it is an extremely naive view. I doubt the forefathers really envisioned this issue or that for political gain large states would be split into smaller ones. In addition I doubt the forefathers assumed we would reach 50 states. They started with just 13 and much of the US at the time belonged to France and to natives or was unknown, unexplored. There was no idea at the time that the Louisiana purchase and the widespread extermination of natives was going to happen.We've gone in this circle before, that is a feature not a bug.
I find the Constitution incredibly adaptive and very special. People tend to lament our government only when it doesn't produce their preferred outcome.I would say that it is an extremely naive view. I doubt the forefathers really envisioned this issue or that for political gain large states would be split into smaller ones. In addition I doubt the forefathers assumed we would reach 50 states. They started with just 13 and much of the US at the time belonged to France and to natives or was unknown, unexplored. There was no idea at the time that the Louisiana purchase and the widespread extermination of natives was going to happen.
People have this crazy idea that the US Constitution is somehow special or the best in the world. Is it really ? It seems to me extremely fragile because of the sheer amount of interpretation people make about what a bunch of guys thought hundreds of years ago and the absolutist stances people take in those interpretations.
It's more about waffling in the White House, the art of the deal so to speak.So Mitch "I stole the supreme court" McConnel is now offering Democrats his promise to one day allow DACA to be spoken of in the senate in order to turn the government back on?
If they fall for this crap I will be very disappointed. They need to keep it shut down until they get DACA. If that means it stays shut down until midterms then so be it. McConnel will be out of a job soon enough.
In those cases that person doing the negotiating actually knows what they want and when to close the deal. Does not seem to be the case over at the WH...
So Mitch "I stole the supreme court" McConnel is now offering Democrats his promise to one day allow DACA to be spoken of in the senate in order to turn the government back on?
If they fall for this crap I will be very disappointed. They need to keep it shut down until they get DACA. If that means it stays shut down until midterms then so be it. McConnel will be out of a job soon enough.