You must not know many people that work in traditional blue collar tradesMalarkey. Areas with the highest concentrations of illegals are among the most prosperous. If what you offer were true that wouldn't be the case. They went to the jobs in ways that depressed area Americans simply did not.
You must not know many people that work in traditional blue collar trades
If someone who just came here, has no papers, and doesn't speak the language can take your job, maybe go back to school.
1: It's trickle down that stripped them of wealth, not illegals.
2: Good luck affording that.
Doesn't look too far off from the truth:As I pointed out, the details of any deal have yet to emerge. Claims that the Dems caved are premature at best.
Then get to work doing the jobs you complained about illegals stealing, and STFU.1: It's trickle down that stripped them of wealth, not illegals.
2: Good luck affording that.
Funny, both my grandfathers built very comfortable middle class lives doing jobs that they took incredible pride in trades their grandkids can no longer make a living from, not because there is no demand, but because illegals are undercutting them on price.You are not going to have a middle class lifestyle building stuff that is now made in China, doing jobs illegals do, mining coal, and all the other things that Republicans are promising you. You will have a shitty life with a shit job or will be automated out.
Politifact is making the claim that Reid held up 24 Democratic sponsored bills considered to be substantial. I'm taking their word for it. If you have an issue with their perception of the facts...I suggest that you take it up with them.So in other words you're taking the exact opposite conclusion of my link while citing it for credibility. Lol.
From my link:
As for what Politifact said, you either didn't read that link well or you are intentionally twisting what it said. It talked about bills awaiting action in the Senate, which could be the case for any number of reasons. It did not say that they were blocked by Reid. You clearly have no idea what was in the bills you're making claims about, which, amusingly enough, did not stop you from making the claims.
So you said Reid was holding up Democratic sponsored bills. List those bills and let's look at their content and their fate. You made a claim so I'm inviting you to work with me to see if that claim is true or not. Since presumably you would wouldn't want to keep claiming things that are false, let's take this journey of discovery together!
I specifically referenced one aspect of what is considered 'regular order'. I thought the context was quite clear. Sorry that you found this to be confusing.No, I'm using the definition of regular order that the Senate uses. You certainly can't ask us to use a definition of 'regular order' that you just made up. Both ACA repeal and their tax bill were passed under nothing even remotely resembling regular order. In fact, the ACA repeal efford was so insanely irregular that it spawned a mutiny within GOP ranks because of how irresponsible it was. Then you had the tax bill that no one had read passed with changes handwritten into the margins. Not sure how you forgot this already. The idea that McConnell has pursued regular order is laugh-out-loud absurd.
Funny, both my grandfathers built very comfortable middle class lives doing jobs that they took incredible pride in trades their grandkids can no longer make a living from, not because there is no demand, but because illegals are undercutting them on price.
Typical liberal attitude that craft work is shit work.
Lol, wtf? How long ago was that.Funny, both my grandfathers built very comfortable middle class lives doing jobs that they took incredible pride in trades their grandkids can no longer make a living from, not because there is no demand, but because illegals are undercutting them on price.
Typical liberal attitude that craft work is shit work.
Politifact is making the claim that Reid held up 24 Democratic sponsored bills considered to be substantial. I'm taking their word for it. If you have an issue with their perception of the facts...I suggest that you take it up with them.
I specifically referenced one aspect of what is considered 'regular order'. Sorry that you found this to be confusing.
Funny, both my grandfathers built very comfortable middle class lives doing jobs that they took incredible pride in trades their grandkids can no longer make a living from, not because there is no demand, but because illegals are undercutting them on price.
Typical liberal attitude that craft work is shit work.
If I thought for a second you were an honest broker, I might consider spending some time researching this and discussing it with you. But my time is much too valuable at the moment...especially for an exercise in futility.Politifact is most certainly not say that. I would suggest you re-read the section titled 'Are these bills "sitting on Harry Reid’s desk awaiting action"?' as there are myriad reasons as to why those bills could be delayed. More importantly, that article was from years ago and so we don't know how many of those 24 Democratic sponsored bills were in fact voted on... ie: not blocked.
So for the third time, I invite you to substantiate your claim with specific bills that we can evaluate. This will allow us to determine if your statement is true or false. If you are uninterested in determining if your statement is true or false just say so.
Agree....McConnell made a significant move towards reestablishing regular order.Okay so then we both agree that McConnell did not return to regular order as it is generally defined.
Of course it does. Illegal inmigration creates an exploitable labor pool that tangibly suppresses wages and has a ripple effect across the entire economy.
You must not know many people that work in traditional blue collar trades
Waffle much.If I thought for a second you were an honest broker, I might consider spending some time researching this and discussing it with you. But my time is much too valuable at the moment...especially for an exercise in futility.
Agree....McConnell made a significant move towards reestablishing regular order.
If I thought for a second you were an honest broker, I might consider spending some time researching this and discussing it with you. But my time is much too valuable at the moment...especially for an exercise in futility.
Agree....McConnell made a significant move towards reestablishing regular order.
Doesn't look too far off from the truth:
https://thinkprogress.org/senate-democrats-cave-9c2e6aa1bf95/
Waffle much.
I'm taking Polifact's word for it and have no time to play your twisted little games today.Thank you for admitting you don't care whether what you claimed is true or false. This says everything that anyone needs to know about how nonexistent your standards are.
You suddenly have a problem with reconciliation?No, he presided over the most 'irregular order' for major legislation in the history of the country. In The History Of The United States. Why are you trying to make these 'up is down' claims that you know to be false?
We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal and that white people are therefore not superior to anybody else. Whiteness is an evolutionary adaption to living in climes with low levels of solar radiation than the African savanna on which we first evolved and where we all originally came from. The damage that racists do to 'the other' both intentionally via fear induced hatred, or as it seeps out into a bias against certain people at an unconscious level are both repugnant and evil. No person who wishes to pretend to an ounce of decency can support Republican party that we see before us today. Where this pernicious racism is absent, the white supremacist doctrine dictating Republican legislation would be obvious. You are on the wrong side of a capacity to distinguish the inalienable as the answer to your question should be obvious. Your out, of course, is to deny what is obvious. Decent people don't like to admit to being racist even though it is now official policy of the Republican party. They depend on that to hold power.Their principles are evil? How so?
I'm taking Polifact's word for it and have no time to play your twisted little games today.
You suddenly have a problem with reconciliation?
The inclusion of other opinions just gets in the way of the implication of God's truth. When God is the end there are no evil means. You wouldn't want Republicans governing in a state of moral uncertainty would you? If you do, there's a long line ahead of you.Yes it's pretty amusing that he originally claimed that McConnell returned to regular order, then when informed that McConnell basically took regular order and set it on fire, he made up his own definition for it and then gave McConnell credit for that. We are talking about a person who has little to no regard for truth or even basic honesty.
I mean the guy he was celebrating for returning to regular order tried to overhaul the nation's health care system with a bill that was drafted in secret, received no meaningful committee hearings, no attempt at a CBO score (Democrats had to submit a request for what they guessed was in the bill because Republicans refused to submit their own request or tell Democrats what was in it), and then put up for a vote where almost nobody knew what was in the bill.
That's the champion of regular order. lol.