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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Go ahead and blame Trump he sucks anyway. Meanwhile the rich will keep on getting the coupon payments from their T-bond holdings. And will be preparing to buy assets on the cheap from people whose transfer payments have ground to a halt.
What do you propose to do about it?
 

interchange

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Oct 10, 1999
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It doesn't work that way, Democrats in the opposition party want President Trump to put illegal immigrants ahead of our own citizens by giving in to their blackmail. He doesn't want to do it and can't force them to be reasonable.

Do those sound like my words?
 
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So what's reasonable in tajbot land? Agree with the donald regardless. Everyone needs to fall into line and do what der fuhrer tells them. They aren't allowed to have their own opinions and ideology. That seems to be your argument tajy. It makes that quote in your sig seem a touch ironic.

Good luck with your frothing at the mouth, delusional crusade. Every time I read one of your posts it's a struggle not to take the piss out of you. Have a nice day.
You do know that a Bill hasn't reached the desk of President Trump? You seem to think he's the only politician in the country and that we don't have 51 Republican Senators and 49 Democratic Senators along with the House members that have voted positively on the Bill. By trying to single out President Trump as the only voice is for you, once again, to prove how ignorant you are about our system of government. You do things differently in.................. where is it you claim to come from now?
 

VRAMdemon

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No need for me to blame him. From his own words Trump blames himself. C'mon, now. You knew they were going to shut down that Mueller investigation one way or another..
 

Balt

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So then let’s just have Trump do something without enabling legislation that likewise has widespread appeal then tie it to the budget. Voter ID would be a great example, or the Balanced Budget Amendment. Both parties get a top priority the voters are 80% or more in favor of but are bitterly opposed by the other party. Win-win.

Sounds good! Let's have Trump issue an executive order that extends CHIP and DACA!

As for voter ID, well that's a state issue.

And if you want to pretend that the executive orders under Obama weren't legally challenged at every opportunity, well then.. L-O-L.
 
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theeedude

Lifer
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All I know is that Republicans are in charge of everything and government is shutting down. That's all I know.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Interesting little meme you found. I notice that all the brave soldiers not getting paid are sweet, deserving white folks and they're not getting paid because of a buncha undeserving, and obviously nasty, brown folks.

Sweet bit of propaganda indeed.
Are You Fucking stupid?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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It doesn't work that way, Democrats in the opposition party want President Trump to put illegal immigrants ahead of our own citizens by giving in to their blackmail. He doesn't want to do it and can't force them to be reasonable.

Way to go Taj- demonizing innocent people & mis-characterizing the situation.

All ending the DACA will do is prevent the country from using our resources to the fullest. The Trump Admin has already acknowledged that deportation isn't a priority so the Dreamers will still be here but they'll only be allowed to participate in the underground economy. They've done nothing to deserve such scorn.

Well, and you'll be able to do your Church Lady superior dance.
 
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Balt

Lifer
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It doesn't work that way, Democrats in the opposition party want President Trump to put illegal immigrants ahead of our own citizens by giving in to their blackmail. He doesn't want to do it and can't force them to be reasonable.

So have Republicans put a standalone CHIP bill out there and dare Democrats to oppose it.

Of course they (Republicans) won't. Because they never gave a shit about the kids in the first place. That's why they've waited months to propose renewing CHIP, so they could use the families that rely on it as bargaining chips.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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So have Republicans put a standalone CHIP bill out there and dare Democrats to oppose it.

Of course they (Republicans) won't. Because they never gave a shit about the kids in the first place. That's why they've waited months to propose renewing CHIP, so they could use the families that rely on it as bargaining chips.

Game theory dictates that hostage takers don't care about their hostages.
 

Balt

Lifer
Mar 12, 2000
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Game theory dictates that hostage takers don't care about their hostages.

Indeed. The same Mitch McConnell who blocked the consideration of a Supreme Court nominee for nine months now says that six weeks is plenty of time to get a DACA fix passed.

What he was really hoping for is to stall long enough that it would put the dreamers in such a desperate situation that the only alternative to deportation was accepting whatever the Republicans wanted.
 
Jul 9, 2009
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Indeed. The same Mitch McConnell who blocked the consideration of a Supreme Court nominee for nine months now says that six weeks is plenty of time to get a DACA fix passed.

What he was really hoping for is to stall long enough that it would put the dreamers in such a desperate situation that the only alternative to deportation was accepting whatever the Republicans wanted.
I have to admit that Supreme Court Justice Gorsuch was just about the biggest win so far. It's my opinion that this shutdown is going to turn into another one. We'll see.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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I have to admit that Supreme Court Justice Gorsuch was just about the biggest win so far. It's my opinion that this shutdown is going to turn into another one. We'll see.

Only psychopathic con men & their sycophants define fucking over innocent people as "winning". I suppose that's to be expected after the way they fucked over Garland.
 
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