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fleabag

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Originally posted by: alphatarget1
You're throwing money away if you replace your air filter ever 13k miles.

Not sure a lot of the stuff you do is necessarily safe, especially the coasting in neutral stuff.

You could wash it, vacuum it, blow on it or do something to clean it up. I have what I think is a cotton air filter in my LS400.
 

SparkyJJO

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All I can say is I'm glad that fleabag isn't a car designer. Although, he wouldn't make it very far as one anyway, as who really wants a car with no AC, that rides like crap, is loud inside, hard to work on (aerodynamic underside means covering everything up), and is super anemic with a small engine trying to drive tall gears while still having to carry the weight of the required zillion airbag and safety systems?
 

PhoKingGuy

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I really dont think any amount of sense is going to work here, the cobalt XFE was a POS to drive, I used to have one. All it was was a regular cobalt with a manual transmission anyway.

If you honestly believe that a 1986 Honda Accord will perform as well as my GTI in an accident, I volunteer you to demonstrate by crashing an Accord with you in it. I'll even find it and pay for it.
 

thomsbrain

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As someone who has hypermiled off and on for a few years, I can say that the majority of the OP is fail. Even the suggestions that could potentially work aren't explained accurately because the OP apparently doesn't know how to do the technique properly.
 

fleabag

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Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy
I really dont think any amount of sense is going to work here, the cobalt XFE was a POS to drive, I used to have one. All it was was a regular cobalt with a manual transmission anyway.

If you honestly believe that a 1986 Honda Accord will perform as well as my GTI in an accident, I volunteer you to demonstrate by crashing an Accord with you in it. I'll even find it and pay for it.

First of all, I don't know the star ratings of your car and the Honda Accord from 1986 because I don't feel like looking them up. If you take an offset collision out of the equation and both your car and the accord have a 4 star rating, you crash both cars individually into a wall at 35mph, yes, BOTH will perform nearly the same because that's how the star ratings are designed. In an offset collision, it's anybody's guess because those cars weren't tested that way.
 

fleabag

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Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
All I can say is I'm glad that fleabag isn't a car designer. Although, he wouldn't make it very far as one anyway, as who really wants a car with no AC, that rides like crap, is loud inside, hard to work on (aerodynamic underside means covering everything up), and is super anemic with a small engine trying to drive tall gears while still having to carry the weight of the required zillion airbag and safety systems?

Really? Well it's too bad that you don't know what you're talking about because Honda did in fact make a car just as I described... It was called the Honda Civic VX, from 1992-1995. The CRX HF was just like the VX except it got slightly better mileage due to it weighing only 1800lbs. Another car? The Geo Metro XFI.... And then you could claim the Insight though that did come with A/C and all the cars I mentioned above had the option of A/C.
 

PhoKingGuy

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Originally posted by: fleabag
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
All I can say is I'm glad that fleabag isn't a car designer. Although, he wouldn't make it very far as one anyway, as who really wants a car with no AC, that rides like crap, is loud inside, hard to work on (aerodynamic underside means covering everything up), and is super anemic with a small engine trying to drive tall gears while still having to carry the weight of the required zillion airbag and safety systems?

Really? Well it's too bad that you don't know what you're talking about because Honda did in fact make a car just as I described... It was called the Honda Civic VX, from 1992-1995. The CRX HF was just like the VX except it got slightly better mileage due to it weighing only 1800lbs. Another car? The Geo Metro XFI.... And then you could claim the Insight though that did come with A/C and all the cars I mentioned above had the option of A/C.

Except none of those are sold anymore because no one would buy them, plus they wouldn't be able to pass safety standards/no one wants to have a 5 speed manual car that takes 11 seconds to get to 60 mph
 

SparkyJJO

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Originally posted by: fleabag
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
All I can say is I'm glad that fleabag isn't a car designer. Although, he wouldn't make it very far as one anyway, as who really wants a car with no AC, that rides like crap, is loud inside, hard to work on (aerodynamic underside means covering everything up), and is super anemic with a small engine trying to drive tall gears while still having to carry the weight of the required zillion airbag and safety systems?

Really? Well it's too bad that you don't know what you're talking about because Honda did in fact make a car just as I described... It was called the Honda Civic VX, from 1992-1995. The CRX HF was just like the VX except it got slightly better mileage due to it weighing only 1800lbs. Another car? The Geo Metro XFI.... And then you could claim the Insight though that did come with A/C and all the cars I mentioned above had the option of A/C.

Excuse me but I DO know what I'm talking about. Sure, they tried making them. They didn't sell that well, and they no longer make them anymore

Besides, as PhoKingGuy said, they won't pass modern safety standards, and to make them do so would add that much more weight to lug around.
 

DVad3r

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You bastard! So it's you slowing me down on the 401 and on Eglinton in the morning. I've seen you around, you're easy to spot with a huge line of cars trailing behind your ass!
 

DVad3r

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As far as city driving goes, I drive in TO too and my car get's the same exact city mileage no matter how I drive it.

Sheer city driving it's 500 km per tank, whether that be accelerating at stop lights, driving aggressively, or being the most gentle driver ever. If it's some mixed highway driving it get's about 600 km per tank. On the highway it's amazing, @ 120 it get's about 750-800 km per tank fully loaded with 4 people + luggage.

Car is an 2001 Lexus ES 300.

Manual recommends my tires to be at 28 PSI with capacity up to 4 people and speeds not in excess of 160 km per hour. 32 psi for speeds in excess of 160 km/h and 4 + ppl + shit in the car.

I run my tires at 39-40 PSI because on the sidewall the rating is like 44 max or some shit. I find I get better fuel economy and the car feels more responsive with that PSI. Tires are Goodyear triple treads 16 inch yo!

Honestly I see a lot of people trying to hypermile but most don't know what the fuck they are doing. They are all going way too slow all the time. Plus I find that in Mississauga every fuckin dumb idiot on the road is going under the speed limit. I swear to God, take Erin Mills at 4 pm where the speed limit is 70 km/h (naturally a good driver always does 10 over at least) and yet everyone is doing 60 km/h. It annoys the fuck out of me and I wish I had a rocket launcher to blast these baffoons from the road. Then you have those stupid bastards that drive side by side on a 2 or even 3 lane road per direction. Literally driving side by side at 60 km/h in a 70 zone for several stop lights, you can't even pass them. If I had a snow plow truck I would run them off the road. Or even worse are those that drive on a 1 lane per direction road under the speed limit, and then they come to a stretch with a passing lane, and either: A: They don't go to the right to let you pass B: They move to the right but suddenly accelerate 40 km/h more and now you're seriously breaking the speed limit just to pass them.

So in conclusion, for next season I will have train horn kits mounted on my motorcycle and my car. Actually I think Ill go with a vessel horn for the car.

Edit: Oh yes and I just wanted to add that I have noticed that most people who drive are zombies.
 

BoberFett

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Originally posted by: fleabag
Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy
Originally posted by: fleabag
Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy
I dont know where you learned physics:

increased pressure + friction = lots of heat

Oh wow.... You're like those idiots who think that two cars going 30mph crashing into each other is twice as bad as one car going 30mph into a wall.....

It depends if the collision is elastic or inelastic

FINE, it's either two cars each going 30mph crashing head on OR one car going 30mph crashing into a IMMOVABLE SOLID AND RIGID WALL.

What are the masses of both cars involved?
 

PhoKingGuy

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I noticed today, using the mpg gauge on my VW:

"Hypermiling" I got about 27 mpg combined

Driving like I normally do 25.6

Driving like I stole it.......22.4 mpg combined

DSG transmissions rock
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy
I noticed today, using the mpg gauge on my VW:

"Hypermiling" I got about 27 mpg combined

Driving like I normally do 25.6

Driving like I stole it.......22.4 mpg combined

DSG transmissions rock

and mpg gauges in cars suck cus they are horribly inaccurate
 

Bignate603

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Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy
I noticed today, using the mpg gauge on my VW:

"Hypermiling" I got about 27 mpg combined

Driving like I normally do 25.6

Driving like I stole it.......22.4 mpg combined

DSG transmissions rock

Really?
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: fleabag
Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy
Originally posted by: fleabag
Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy
I dont know where you learned physics:

increased pressure + friction = lots of heat

Oh wow.... You're like those idiots who think that two cars going 30mph crashing into each other is twice as bad as one car going 30mph into a wall.....

It depends if the collision is elastic or inelastic

FINE, it's either two cars each going 30mph crashing head on OR one car going 30mph crashing into a IMMOVABLE SOLID AND RIGID WALL.

What are the masses of both cars involved?
It doesn't matter. PhoKingGuy is right in the sense that if you have more tire contact with the road, you will have a shorter stopping distance which will save your life in an emergency.
 

PhoKingGuy

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Originally posted by: Bignate603
Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy
I noticed today, using the mpg gauge on my VW:

"Hypermiling" I got about 27 mpg combined

Driving like I normally do 25.6

Driving like I stole it.......22.4 mpg combined

DSG transmissions rock

Really?

You got me there, my car is currently at the dealer getting the mechatronic unit replaced, haha
 

LTC8K6

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Really? Well it's too bad that you don't know what you're talking about because Honda did in fact make a car just as I described... It was called the Honda Civic VX, from 1992-1995. The CRX HF was just like the VX except it got slightly better mileage due to it weighing only 1800lbs. Another car? The Geo Metro XFI.... And then you could claim the Insight though that did come with A/C and all the cars I mentioned above had the option of A/C.

All those vehicles save the Insight belched obscene amounts of NOX...they couldn't come anywhere near today's emissions standards, which is why they quit making them.
 

mwmorph

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Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
All I can say is I'm glad that fleabag isn't a car designer. Although, he wouldn't make it very far as one anyway, as who really wants a car with no AC, that rides like crap, is loud inside, hard to work on (aerodynamic underside means covering everything up), and is super anemic with a small engine trying to drive tall gears while still having to carry the weight of the required zillion airbag and safety systems?

All to save 150 gallons of gas per year over 15k miles.

It's a case of cutting off the nose to spite the face. You're still screwing yourself in the end, especially with the whole neutral coasting thing could really get you in trouble.
Quality of posts:
fleabag=funboy=arcadio<sickbeast (only slightly better though)

There used to be a grease monkey script that could block certain OP's threads. Looks like it's time to activate that again.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: PhoKingGuy
I noticed today, using the mpg gauge on my VW:

"Hypermiling" I got about 27 mpg combined

Driving like I normally do 25.6

Driving like I stole it.......22.4 mpg combined

DSG transmissions rock

and mpg gauges in cars suck cus they are horribly inaccurate

You can't speak for all cars. The one in my VW is pretty damned accurate.
 

jhu

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Originally posted by: mwmorph
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
All I can say is I'm glad that fleabag isn't a car designer. Although, he wouldn't make it very far as one anyway, as who really wants a car with no AC, that rides like crap, is loud inside, hard to work on (aerodynamic underside means covering everything up), and is super anemic with a small engine trying to drive tall gears while still having to carry the weight of the required zillion airbag and safety systems?

All to save 150 gallons of gas per year over 15k miles.

That's not an insignificant amount of fuel saved, although those savings can be achieved without resorting to building the hyperbole of a car that was mentioned.

Originally posted by: mwmorph
It's a case of cutting off the nose to spite the face. You're still screwing yourself in the end, especially with the whole neutral coasting thing could really get you in trouble.

Neutral coasting will only get you into trouble if you don't know what you're doing. It's like trying to drive manual when you're accustomed to automatics. Despite advocates extolling the virtues of manual transmissions, there are still people (most people actually) who have not interest to learn how to drive one. Neutral coasting has definitive fuel saving benefits. Whether or not it's worth the effort is a personal choice.
 

fleabag

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Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Originally posted by: fleabag
Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
All I can say is I'm glad that fleabag isn't a car designer. Although, he wouldn't make it very far as one anyway, as who really wants a car with no AC, that rides like crap, is loud inside, hard to work on (aerodynamic underside means covering everything up), and is super anemic with a small engine trying to drive tall gears while still having to carry the weight of the required zillion airbag and safety systems?

Really? Well it's too bad that you don't know what you're talking about because Honda did in fact make a car just as I described... It was called the Honda Civic VX, from 1992-1995. The CRX HF was just like the VX except it got slightly better mileage due to it weighing only 1800lbs. Another car? The Geo Metro XFI.... And then you could claim the Insight though that did come with A/C and all the cars I mentioned above had the option of A/C.

Excuse me but I DO know what I'm talking about. Sure, they tried making them. They didn't sell that well, and they no longer make them anymore

Besides, as PhoKingGuy said, they won't pass modern safety standards, and to make them do so would add that much more weight to lug around.

And what standards are those exactly? I don't think you have a clue as to what the standards are and are just make generalizations. FYI, the Side impact tests that the NHTSA created its tests were done on the...you guessed it '92-'95 Civic Honda Civics. Go read some FMVSS and tell me what exactly they would have to do to those older models in order to make them meet "the safety standards" of today... You people SERIOUSLY over estimate how much safety has come since the 80s. Take a hint, the Civic of '92-'95 is about the same size as the Yaris and weighs the same as well despite the added features, so again, stop assuming because you clearly don't know what you're talking about. Yeah, "it'll take 300lbs of reinforcement in order to meet these new stricter safety standards", HA! Give me a break!

 

fleabag

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Originally posted by: LTC8K6
Really? Well it's too bad that you don't know what you're talking about because Honda did in fact make a car just as I described... It was called the Honda Civic VX, from 1992-1995. The CRX HF was just like the VX except it got slightly better mileage due to it weighing only 1800lbs. Another car? The Geo Metro XFI.... And then you could claim the Insight though that did come with A/C and all the cars I mentioned above had the option of A/C.

All those vehicles save the Insight belched obscene amounts of NOX...they couldn't come anywhere near today's emissions standards, which is why they quit making them.

Not entirely true, those cars would've met the EPA and CARB standards all the way until 2003 and they had a lean burn engine with the Insight all the way till the stopped production. There are tricks to dealing with the NOX, for example on the Insight they have a mini reservoir or collection area for the exhaust and when enough NOX collects, an extra bit of fuel is injected in order to enrich the exhaust stream and let the Catalytic Converter do its job.
 
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