Situation In Iraq Has Worsened

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BBond

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PS Not that there is any way to compare even one of those soldier's lives with the monetary cost of Bush's lie, but just for the record...

Experts Say Iraq War Will Cost $1 Trillion

Last Update: 1/8/2006 9:32:06 AM

United Press International

A new study by a Nobel Prize-winning economist and a budget expert puts the total cost of the Iraq War at $1 trillion to $2 trillion.

In a paper presented to this week's Allied Social Sciences Association annual meeting in Boston, Linda Bilmes of Harvard and Nobel Laureate Joseph E. Stiglitz of Columbia University said the final bill is likely to be much higher than the Bush administration estimates.

The study includes the cost of disability payments and health care for the over 16,000 injured military personnel -- one-fifth of whom have serious brain or spinal injuries. Stiglitz and Bilmes also analyzed the costs to the economy, including the economic value of lives lost and higher oil prices.

Shortly before the war, when administration economist Larry Lindsey suggested that the costs might range between $100 and $200 billion, administration spokesmen quickly distanced themselves from those numbers, Stiglitz said. But in retrospect, it appears that Lindsey's numbers represented a gross underestimate of the actual costs.

And if they're saying that now, you can just about be sure it'll be at least double that amount.

And all for a lie.
 

BBond

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I"m sorry you had to change the title. For the sake of our forces and our nation I sincerely wish that your original title had been correct.
 

homercles337

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
I know that truth moreso than you can ever imagine. YOU on the other hand are about as close to that truth sitting behind your PC as you will ever be. Save the images of blood and gore for your marches and rallies. Some of us have seen our own buddies in the same condition, and everytime you "feel sorry" for our enemies, you sh*t on our own who have given all they had for their Country...in other words, for YOU!

Please, oh wise one, explain how the Iraq Invasion was "for me?" No terrorists, no WMDs, no bio-weapons, no Osama, no al-queda, no nothing. Is that threatening? Youre like the PNACs from the cold war. We cant find ANY evidence of any threat, that meas they are a HUGE threat! Oh noes!!! Really smart... :roll:
 

Lemon law

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Regardless if the thread title is correct or not, I tend to believe the final price tag of this takeover of an oil rich nation will certainly exceed a trillion in health care costs alone.

Since no one can predict if any of the worse case senarios regarding Iraq will come to be the new reality, we are all stuck riding the Tiger GWB&co. have put us on still hoping for the best. But events in that oil rich middle east are also swirling in new directions, Isael possibly poised to go ballistic as Sharon's stroke leaves it rudderless, and Arab distrust of America reaches new heights. China and India place new strains on oil supply but thus far are not acting on what will be critical to their national
interests-----perhaps playing a waiting game betting the US will fail in a big way soon so they can pick up the pieces.

But the one thing everyone seems to be missing is that one incalculatable commodity is being lost here--------the moral high ground and world admiration that used to be enjoyed by the United States.
That went for the small information gain torture brings us.----a torture policy still maintained by GWB and a very tiny and diminishing set of his supporters.-----and for which the American people will receive and bear a common blame.

How does one put a dollar price on a good name?
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Aimster
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Update:
Ok I was wrong
I have to give you credit for accepting the reality. Which is more than that insular, semi-delusional, religiously motivated, propaganda spewer that has anointed his stupidity with our childrens blood.

 

Skriptures17

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Iraq is going just like we planned. Perfect. Just a few hiccups here an dthere, but with r great president leading the way. The golden road is not far off.
 

BBond

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The twelve soldiers who died in that helicopter in Iraq should get the same 24 hour 7 day a week coverage as the miners who died in West Virginia.

But what do you want to bet they don't?

 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: Skriptures17
Iraq is going just like we planned. Perfect. Just a few hiccups here an dthere, but with r great president leading the way. The golden road is not far off.

LOL
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: BBond
PPS It's time to change the title of this thread.

Done

Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Aimster
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Update:
Ok I was wrong
I have to give you credit for accepting the reality. Which is more than that insular, semi-delusional, religiously motivated, propaganda spewer that has anointed his stupidity with our childrens blood.

Thank you sir.

Welcome back to reality despite how sad it is.
 

conjur

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Jun 7, 2001
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Originally posted by: BBond
The twelve soldiers who died in that helicopter in Iraq should get the same 24 hour 7 day a week coverage as the miners who died in West Virginia.

But what do you want to bet they don't?
Damn liberal media, blasting bad news from Iraq 24/7.
 

Aimster

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Jan 5, 2003
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I made this thread with the hope that the situation got better.

I wish I was right.

Hopefully we won't hear anything for a long time again and I can change the title back.
 

raildogg

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How has the situation changed that much and especially how has it worsened?

There were elections and a huge number of people voted. The elections weren't perfect but neither were our first elections, or even second, or third or 20th. The violence has remained basically the same for the past 2 and half years.

But yes, you bowed down and admitted defeat to these Bush haters.

Go you.
 

conjur

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"The violence has remained basically the same for the past 2 and half years. "


Do you not realize the enormity of that sentence?
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: conjur
"The violence has remained basically the same for the past 2 and half years. "

Do you not realize the enormity of that sentence?

do YOU realize that it's really not that profound? You would love to make it seem that way though... You would love for the gravity of the situation to be so far beyond repair that all hope is lost for civilization and Bush is to blame! ahhhhHHHHH run for the hills! The end is near!

bah... get a grip, and get a clue conjur. better yet, why dont you CONJUR up some courage and go serve your damn country.
 

conjur

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Settle down, Beavis. You're going to frag yourself. Oh, and wipe that spittle off your mouth, too.
 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: conjur
"The violence has remained basically the same for the past 2 and half years. "

Do you not realize the enormity of that sentence?

do YOU realize that it's really not that profound? You would love to make it seem that way though... You would love for the gravity of the situation to be so far beyond repair that all hope is lost for civilization and Bush is to blame! ahhhhHHHHH run for the hills! The end is near!

bah... get a grip, and get a clue conjur. better yet, why dont you CONJUR up some courage and go serve your damn country.


This guy is still here?

go kill some innocent Iraqis.. OK.. see ya
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: BBond
BTW, thanks to George W. Bush and his entire administration America just blew past another milestone in Iraq.

2,110

And all for a lie.

Only an idiot counts numbers of human lives as a "milestone"

Again, people die in war, we get it.
 

mAdMaLuDaWg

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A more accurate statement would be the situation in Baghdad is worsening. Ramadi, Falluja, Kerbala, and Mosul.. previous hotspots of violence.. has seen significant improvements. However, the past weeks news puts those areas back into question
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: BBond
BTW, thanks to George W. Bush and his entire administration America just blew past another milestone in Iraq.

2,110

And all for a lie.

Only an idiot counts numbers of human lives as a "milestone"

Again, people die in war, we get it.

Only an idiot apologizes for the deaths handed out by this administration.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: mAdMaLuDaWg
A more accurate statement would be the situation in Baghdad is worsening. Ramadi, Falluja, Kerbala, and Mosul.. previous hotspots of violence.. has seen significant improvements. However, the past weeks news puts those areas back into question
It's that permanent game of whack-a-mole our military is playing.
 

conjur

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Bombers target Interior Ministry, 28 dead
http://go.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml...pNews&storyID=10792034&src=rss/topNews
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Two suicide bombers disguised as senior police officers blew themselves up inside a ministry compound on Monday, killing 28 people in an attack that raises further questions about Iraqi government security.

Meanwhile, a French hostage headed home after more than a month in captivity, and Sunni Arab politicians hit out at the U.S. military, accusing them of targeting Muslim clergy and violating a place of worship during a raid in Baghdad.

U.S. officials said they were investigating a helicopter crash on Saturday night in the north of the country. They said it happened in bad weather and confirmed that eight of the 12 killed were military personnel, pushing the U.S. death toll in Iraq over the 2,200 mark.

The two suicide bombers managed to get inside the Interior Ministry compound in east Baghdad, as senior dignitaries, including the U.S. ambassador to Iraq, were at a nearby parade to mark National Police Day.

One was wearing the uniform of an Iraqi police major while the other was dressed as a lieutenant-colonel. Both had high-level security passes which enabled them to get through the main checkpoint to the compound, and would have allowed them to get into the ministry itself.

"We're dying to know how they got hold of these badges to enter the building," one police source told Reuters. "This is a disaster. We can't understand how they managed to get inside without being searched."

Once inside the checkpoint, Interior Ministry guards became suspicious of one of the attackers because of his bulk, and shot at him, detonating his explosive belt. The second bomber then blew himself up, causing more carnage.
Well, DUH! Good grief! Because they've infiltrated every level of Iraqi government and security! They've been there for months and months!
 
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