He couldn't read it becuase it wasn't upside down, ala "My pet goat".Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: BBond
As for the perception stated in the OP...
U.S. death toll in 2005 virtually unchanged from previous year
At least 844 American service members were killed in Iraq in 2005, nearly matching 2004's total of 848, according to information released by the U.S. government and a nonprofit organization that tracks casualties in Iraq.
Making 2005 the second deadliest year since George W. Bush uttered his famous "Mission Accomplished" horsesh!t and his infamous "Bring 'em on" sissy cowboy rhetoric.
More at link.
There are also sites like Iraq Coalition Casualty Count that provide an accurate picture of U.S. and "coalition" casualties month to month as well as total. You'll notice there have and continue to be fluctuations in U.S. and "coalition" military fatalities. The current total of U.S. troops killed is 1,282.
The Iraqi civilian casualty count has been increasing due to the increased use of bombs rather than boots on the ground as the Bush administration prepares to abandon Iraq after failing in whatever the hell their mission was in the first place, probably declaring victory and getting the hell out before the mid-term elections.
So after all of the deaths, both U.S., coalition, and Iraqi civillian, and all of the hundreds of billions wasted Bush will depart Iraq with the nation in the hands of a Shi'ite theocracy client state of Iran.
Great job you blithering idiot.
Bush never "uttered" Mission Accomplished. Go read the transcript of his speech.
Don't be ridiculous. He uttered it by standing in front of a five story tall sign provided by the White House to e hung behind him on the USS Lincoln.
Or didn't the imbecile know the sign was there?
Maybe he missed it while covering his eyes after being forced back into a jet fighter to make his pseudo-top gun entrance.
Originally posted by: palehorse74
That may be the foundation upon which Hezbollah was created, but they certainly have not limited their acts of terror to Lebanon and Israel. Hebollah has worked hand-in0hand for YEARS with other terrorist organizations, INCLUDING Al Qaeda. Google is your friend, or better yet, go read ANY book about them.Originally posted by: Aimster
2) Iran supports Israel terrorist group Hezbollah which was created to get Israel out of Lebanon. The most well known terrorist group is Al-Qaeda which Iran does not support.
Wrong, they are directly disobbeying the laws governing atomic energy and participation in the UN. Why is do you think that EU3, the US, and everyone else are holding them accountable for reopening those facilities? It is because they have directly violated International mandates and laws.3) Iran is not breaking any international laws with their nuclear program. None. It is all legal.
Ahh, you have no idea just how much MORE powerful a nuclear weapon is, do you?5) Iran never said they want to nuke Israel off the map. Iran has chemical weapons. The size of Israel + chemical weapons = total destruction of Israeli people.
Wrong again.6) There is no evidence to suggest Iran is sending anything over the border to help with the Iraq insurgency. 99% of the Insurgents are Arab. Iranians are not Arab.
-If the U.S had a strong case about this they would be showing the evidence. Iran is fighting their own Arab insurgency in Iran.
Iran sending supplies and aid to Iraqi insurgents:
http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=4577
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1585931,00.html
http://nyjtimes.com/cover/11-11-05/IranWarnedNotToMeddle.htm
etc etc...
Like I said before, Google is your friend.. or read books. Whatever the case, you are wrong on every point.
G'day
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: Todd33
Iran II rocks! Didn't we just blow up a house full of women and kids because we were too cowardly to kick the door in and see who was there?
You mean this?
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: Todd33
Iran II rocks! Didn't we just blow up a house full of women and kids because we were too cowardly to kick the door in and see who was there?
You mean this?
I love it now we are quoteing al jazeera as a reliable news source:disgust:
How come I never saw any articles in this forum about Al Gorejeera's trip to Saudi Arabia where he badmouthed the way americans treat moslems, the skinny is his trip was funded in part by Osamas family.
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: JackStorm
Originally posted by: Todd33
Iran II rocks! Didn't we just blow up a house full of women and kids because we were too cowardly to kick the door in and see who was there?
You mean this?
I love it now we are quoteing al jazeera as a reliable news source:disgust:
How come I never saw any articles in this forum about Al Gorejeera's trip to Saudi Arabia where he badmouthed the way americans treat moslems, the skinny is his trip was funded in part by Osamas family.
Originally posted by: tommywishbone
111 Iraqis and 7 Americans dead today. A filthy bloody mess, courtesy of the USA.
Yay! Welcome to freedom, ladies, brought to you by the US military courtesy of their neocon masters.BAGHDAD, 7 March (IRIN) - Since the fall of Saddam Hussein in early 2003, the number of women attacked for choosing not to wear head scarves and veils has more than tripled, according to the Women's Rights Association (WRA), a local NGO in the capital, Baghdad.
"Women are being killed because they don't wear headscarves and veils," said WRA spokeswoman Mayada Zuhair. "A life is being taken because of a simple piece of cloth, and someone should prevent more women from being killed by these ignorant people who that believe honour depends on what you're wearing."
According to WRA, there have been 80 attacks to date against women and reports of four women being killed by their families in 2005. This is compared too 22 attacks between 1999 and March 2003 and one death.
"Women's interest in using headscarves/veils in Iraq has decreased, not because they've forgotten their religion, but because, when Saddam's regime was ousted, modernism and development stood before us and everyone wanted to be part of the change," Zuhair maintained. "Not wearing the headscarf/veil is one of the characteristics of modernisation."
Zuhair explained that the choice not to wear headscarves is much more pronounced in the capital because society there is more open to modernisation. This is opposed to the south of the country, where traditional family life has changed very little since the war in 2003.
"It's difficult to say how many women wear headscarves and veils," Zuhair added. "But, before 2003, roughly, seven out of 10 were wearing scarves and coverings, whereas now, four in 10 do."
The three recent deaths happened in and around the capital, according to Zuhair. Two of them were single girls found walking in local markets without the covering, while the other two were married women who had abandoned their scarves and veils after marriage at the request of their husbands, Zuhair explained.
Often, women receive threats but are too afraid to seek help from organisations such as the WRA, Zuhair said. In many cases, fearing reprisals, women who feel threatened will ask a friend to approach the association for them, she added. Some women have reportedly been kept prisoners in their own homes or have received threats from parents or relatives.
Occasionally, the WRA has requested protection for women from police, but conservative social attitudes often prevent what is commonly viewed as "interference" in private matters. "Police interference is very difficult. In most cases, the husband is the one who has to search for help because we can't interfere in issues related to traditional values," Zuhair noted. "The husband is the only one who has this right."
According to Sheikh Ali Muthilak, a spokesman at the Rahman mosque in Baghdad, women become the "property" of their husbands after marriage. "The husband makes decisions about their lives," he said. "Sometimes you get the impression that women are vegetables that can be easily exchanged, without feelings or ideas."
Compounding the problem, the law allows for abuses against women, say women's rights activists. The Iraqi Penal Code, for example, states that "the penalty for killing a woman should be reduced if a crime was committed for reasons of honour". A so-called "honour killing" is where a woman's relative kills her for what is described as an act which brings dishonour to the family. Not covering up, according to Zuhair, can be perceived as such an act.
Yehia Abdul Salam, 37, says his wife was strangled by her father in Baquba, some 70 km north of the capital. "My wife, Leila, was killed by her father because she went to visit him without her veil, which I asked her to take off after our marriage," said Salam.
"They [the parents] thought she had destroyed the honour of her family, and death was her penalty." Leila's father has never been investigated for the crime, Salam added.
Meanwhile, the Iraqi police describe the issue as "delicate," involving a volatile mix of religion and tradition cultivated by Iraqi Muslim families for decades. "We're in a Muslim country? if you interfere in family cases concerning veils, you're considered a betrayer of Islam," explained police officer Ali Zacarias. "We cannot touch such cases."
Rahman Ala'a, a senior official in the interior ministry, blamed the constitution for not setting down women's rights more clearly. "For the police to interfere in women's rights issues, we need to have it well explained in the constitution, which at present doesn't address such issues," he said.
Zuhair concluded that the challenge was therefore left to Iraqi women to assert their rights for themselves.
No. There are no international laws governing atomic energy or participation in the UN. There is a Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and there are treatys related to membership in the UN, but no actual laws. What the UN is trying to use to force the Iranians to stop what they are doing is the fact that the Shah's government signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. The treaty does allow nuclear research for peaceful purposes, but not for weapons research unless you already had them before you signed. The current Iranian government is talking about 'pulling out' of the treaty which would then allow them to procede towards creation of nuclear weapons. There is NO requirement that a member of the UN be a signatory on the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, in fact Israel is not one. The watch-dog for the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty is the IAEA which is part of the UN. All they are is a monitoring and reporting office, they have no 'police' powers. There is also no requirement a country be a member of the UN, Taiwan isn't (in fact, they were thrown out when mainland China joined).Originally posted by: palehorse74
Wrong, they are directly disobbeying the laws governing atomic energy and participation in the UN. Why is do you think that EU3, the US, and everyone else are holding them accountable for reopening those facilities? It is because they have directly violated International mandates and laws.
Baghdad Bob, Jr.?BAGHDAD, March 8 -- Days after the bombing of a Shiite shrine unleashed a wave of retaliatory killings of Sunnis, the leading Shiite party in Iraq's governing coalition directed the Health Ministry to stop tabulating execution-style shootings, according to a ministry official familiar with the recording of deaths.
The official, who spoke on the condition that he not be named because he feared for his safety, said a representative of the Shiite party, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, ordered that government hospitals and morgues catalogue deaths caused by bombings or clashes with insurgents, but not by execution-style shootings.
A statement this week by the U.N. human rights department in Baghdad appeared to support the account of the Health Ministry official. The agency said it had received information about Baghdad's main morgue -- where victims of fatal shootings are taken -- that indicated "the current acting director is under pressure by the Interior Ministry in order not to reveal such information and to minimize the number of casualties."
The U.N. office said it had not confirmed the information about the morgue and had been unable so far to obtain an accounting of the toll from Iraqi authorities.
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Originally posted by: conjur
Official Says Shiite Party Suppressed Body Count
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...rticle/2006/03/08/AR2006030802692.html
Baghdad Bob, Jr.?BAGHDAD, March 8 -- Days after the bombing of a Shiite shrine unleashed a wave of retaliatory killings of Sunnis, the leading Shiite party in Iraq's governing coalition directed the Health Ministry to stop tabulating execution-style shootings, according to a ministry official familiar with the recording of deaths.
The official, who spoke on the condition that he not be named because he feared for his safety, said a representative of the Shiite party, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, ordered that government hospitals and morgues catalogue deaths caused by bombings or clashes with insurgents, but not by execution-style shootings.
A statement this week by the U.N. human rights department in Baghdad appeared to support the account of the Health Ministry official. The agency said it had received information about Baghdad's main morgue -- where victims of fatal shootings are taken -- that indicated "the current acting director is under pressure by the Interior Ministry in order not to reveal such information and to minimize the number of casualties."
The U.N. office said it had not confirmed the information about the morgue and had been unable so far to obtain an accounting of the toll from Iraqi authorities.
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This coming from the guy that says the US needs to step up its spreading of propaganda in Iraqi news media to spread more positive reports about the US.Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Originally posted by: conjur
Official Says Shiite Party Suppressed Body Count
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...rticle/2006/03/08/AR2006030802692.html
Baghdad Bob, Jr.?BAGHDAD, March 8 -- Days after the bombing of a Shiite shrine unleashed a wave of retaliatory killings of Sunnis, the leading Shiite party in Iraq's governing coalition directed the Health Ministry to stop tabulating execution-style shootings, according to a ministry official familiar with the recording of deaths.
The official, who spoke on the condition that he not be named because he feared for his safety, said a representative of the Shiite party, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, ordered that government hospitals and morgues catalogue deaths caused by bombings or clashes with insurgents, but not by execution-style shootings.
A statement this week by the U.N. human rights department in Baghdad appeared to support the account of the Health Ministry official. The agency said it had received information about Baghdad's main morgue -- where victims of fatal shootings are taken -- that indicated "the current acting director is under pressure by the Interior Ministry in order not to reveal such information and to minimize the number of casualties."
The U.N. office said it had not confirmed the information about the morgue and had been unable so far to obtain an accounting of the toll from Iraqi authorities.
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That dovetails with Rumsfeld's comments:
We Don't Need No Steenken Bodycount
Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld today presented an upbeat report of the conflict in Iraq and said he agrees with the commander of the U.S.-led coalition, Army Gen. George W. Casey Jr., that the news media has exaggerated the number of civilian casualties in the conflict.
Rumsfeld said that while insurgents are "obviously trying to ignite a civil war," Iraqi security forces have "taken the lead in controlling the situation" and the Iraqi government has taken "a number of key steps that have had a calming effect in the situation."
But the news media in the United States and abroad has misreported the number of Iraqi civilians that have been killed and the number of mosques that have come under attack, Rumsfeld said at a Pentagon news conference.
This misreporting, Rumsfeld said, has swayed American public opinion. A new Washington Post-ABC News poll reported yesterday that 80 percent of Americans believe that fighting between Sunni and Shiite Muslims in Iraq will lead to civil war.