Skateboarder shoved by cop

[Saint Nick]

cops don't stop me from skating. i don't fight them, but they don't stop me. i can easily outrun those suckers :laugh:

 

[manowar821]

Some of the old coots here need to get a different outlook on authority. The cops don't prevent much of anything, they just show up after the crime has been committed.
I can't remember the last time that the cops around here prevented ANYTHING.

Also, skateboarding is not a crime, at least not a moral crime. Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right. Why doesn't she go do something useful like beat the crap out of some white supremacists, break up a cult or two, or take the license away from that asshole that cut me off doing 80 in a 50 zone today? It's nice seeing that dude go flying down the highway freely, but when I get my little pocket-rocket 5mph over the limit, I get slapped with a 140 dollar fine.

My point is cops have no good judge of character, they're unfairly biased, and don't actually prevent nearly enough REAL CRIME. What a load of crap.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: rivan
It looks to me like the cop was trying to stop him, not shove him into the bush.

And the response "Ohhh, it looks like you just assaulted someone..." makes me think the kids were trying for it.

Damned punks - they should be glad it's not 30 years ago, when they'd have been removed from their skateboards by a billy club. Seriously, kids like that do crap just to see how far they can push it. Skaters EVERYwhere know to look for no boarding signs, and these two seem like the type who were happy just to ignore it and see how long they could get away it with.

Do humanity a favor and refrain from breeding please.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: manowar821
Some of the old coots here need to get a different outlook on authority. The cops don't prevent much of anything, they just show up after the crime has been committed.
I can't remember the last time that the cops around here prevented ANYTHING.

Also, skateboarding is not a crime, at least not a moral crime. Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right. Why doesn't she go do something useful like beat the crap out of some white supremacists, break up a cult or two, or take the license away from that asshole that cut me off doing 80 in a 50 zone today? It's nice seeing that dude go flying down the highway freely, but when I get my little pocket-rocket 5mph over the limit, I get slapped with a 140 dollar fine.

My point is cops have no good judge of character, they're unfairly biased, and don't actually prevent nearly enough REAL CRIME. What a load of crap.

I forget. Did you live in a time where there weren't police around minimizing crime? Let's see what happened the last time there wasn't steady law enforcement in the US. Oh yes, it would probably be the Wild West. Let's bring back those days guys, I can't wait to practice shooting my six shooter. Yeeehaaaaaaaaaa!!!

 

[SirStev0]

silly kids you are suppose to give the cop the finger and run.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: manowar821
Some of the old coots here need to get a different outlook on authority. The cops don't prevent much of anything, they just show up after the crime has been committed.
I can't remember the last time that the cops around here prevented ANYTHING.

Also, skateboarding is not a crime, at least not a moral crime. Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right. Why doesn't she go do something useful like beat the crap out of some white supremacists, break up a cult or two, or take the license away from that asshole that cut me off doing 80 in a 50 zone today? It's nice seeing that dude go flying down the highway freely, but when I get my little pocket-rocket 5mph over the limit, I get slapped with a 140 dollar fine.

My point is cops have no good judge of character, they're unfairly biased, and don't actually prevent nearly enough REAL CRIME. What a load of crap.

The part you're missing is that without cops writing crotch-rocket riders stiff tickets once in a while, they'd speed all the time. If cops didn't show up after crimes and at least *sort* of try to find the offenders, there'd be a LOT more crime. If there were never cops of the freeways, there'd be a LOT more people doing 80 and cutting you off.

It's not a cop's job to decide what laws to enforce (even though sometimes they do) and it's not your place to single-handedly decide that since you don't like a law or don't see anything moreally wrong with something, that it's invalid. If you don't like a law or ordinance, get it changed. You don't get to ignore it.

I was young once, and I ignored my fair share of laws. The difference between you and I, apparently, is that I knew I was supposed to follow the law, and when I got caught breaking it, it was MY OWN STUPID FAULT for speeding like a madman. I had NOONE but myself to blame for the $140 ticket.

Grow up and take some responsibilities for your actions. If you don't like something, work to get it changed. Otherwise, stfu and pay your fine.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: manowar821
Some of the old coots here need to get a different outlook on authority. The cops don't prevent much of anything, they just show up after the crime has been committed.
I can't remember the last time that the cops around here prevented ANYTHING.

Also, skateboarding is not a crime, at least not a moral crime. Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right. Why doesn't she go do something useful like beat the crap out of some white supremacists, break up a cult or two, or take the license away from that asshole that cut me off doing 80 in a 50 zone today? It's nice seeing that dude go flying down the highway freely, but when I get my little pocket-rocket 5mph over the limit, I get slapped with a 140 dollar fine.

My point is cops have no good judge of character, they're unfairly biased, and don't actually prevent nearly enough REAL CRIME. What a load of crap.

The law was passed because public and private property was being damaged by the skaters. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't want my tax dollars to go into building a nice stone wall and other public things only to have it destroyed and/or defaced by skaters grinding their boards on it.

The cop was doing her job. Her job is to enforce the law and stop crimes if they are in progress. The skaters repeatedly defied her order and the law. She was perfectly justified in using physical means to stop them when they would not stop after repeated verbal commands.

The problem isn't that I'm old, the problem is you need to grow up.

Don't like the law? Change it. Until then, her actions were justified.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: rivan
It looks to me like the cop was trying to stop him, not shove him into the bush.

And the response "Ohhh, it looks like you just assaulted someone..." makes me think the kids were trying for it.

Damned punks - they should be glad it's not 30 years ago, when they'd have been removed from their skateboards by a billy club. Seriously, kids like that do crap just to see how far they can push it. Skaters EVERYwhere know to look for no boarding signs, and these two seem like the type who were happy just to ignore it and see how long they could get away it with.

Do humanity a favor and refrain from breeding please.

Too late - already breeding. If I were a little more immature, I might hope the cops weren't around next time you needed them. But I'm not. You do humanity a favor and learn a new slam.

They've got a thankless job - they take it from one side that they can't prevent enough crime, and they take it from people like you when they enforce the law. Yes, there are cops that should NOT be cops. Then there are the other 98% that I'm pretty thankful for.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: manowar821
Some of the old coots here need to get a different outlook on authority. The cops don't prevent much of anything, they just show up after the crime has been committed.
I can't remember the last time that the cops around here prevented ANYTHING.

Also, skateboarding is not a crime, at least not a moral crime. Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right. Why doesn't she go do something useful like beat the crap out of some white supremacists, break up a cult or two, or take the license away from that asshole that cut me off doing 80 in a 50 zone today? It's nice seeing that dude go flying down the highway freely, but when I get my little pocket-rocket 5mph over the limit, I get slapped with a 140 dollar fine.

My point is cops have no good judge of character, they're unfairly biased, and don't actually prevent nearly enough REAL CRIME. What a load of crap.

I forget. Did you live in a time where there weren't police around minimizing crime? Let's see what happened the last time there wasn't steady law enforcement in the US. Oh yes, it would probably be the Wild West. Let's bring back those days guys, I can't wait to practice shooting my six shooter. Yeeehaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Right. If you want lawlessness, please see today's article about Somalia.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: manowar821
Some of the old coots here need to get a different outlook on authority. The cops don't prevent much of anything, they just show up after the crime has been committed.
I can't remember the last time that the cops around here prevented ANYTHING.

Also, skateboarding is not a crime, at least not a moral crime. Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right. Why doesn't she go do something useful like beat the crap out of some white supremacists, break up a cult or two, or take the license away from that asshole that cut me off doing 80 in a 50 zone today? It's nice seeing that dude go flying down the highway freely, but when I get my little pocket-rocket 5mph over the limit, I get slapped with a 140 dollar fine.

My point is cops have no good judge of character, they're unfairly biased, and don't actually prevent nearly enough REAL CRIME. What a load of crap.

I forget. Did you live in a time where there weren't police around minimizing crime? Let's see what happened the last time there wasn't steady law enforcement in the US. Oh yes, it would probably be the Wild West. Let's bring back those days guys, I can't wait to practice shooting my six shooter. Yeeehaaaaaaaaaa!!!

Right. If you want lawlessness, please see today's article about Somalia.

Completely agree. Were it not for laws and the structure of our society things would be much worse. I just got back from two weeks in Colombia. The police there are USELESS. The differences in professionalism and law enforcement there are huge. We should be proud of our police even if they are not perfect. We should also be thankful that Americans favor law and order, and that we not only have police to enforce laws, but also our society enforces reasonable codes of conduct.

Cops prevent plenty of crime simply by existing. Our economy and businesses would not be able to prosper and investment would wane if we didn't have law enforcement. Any business owner or successful person will tell you that this is a great country because it is ordered and structured. Without that, who is going to protect the right's of private property owners, public property, and the public at large? Property rights are one of the focal underpinnings of what makes our society different from developing countries.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: Mill
Interesting how the "push" in this article is considered a felony, but in that video people say it was just here stopping him.

The whole point of that article is that the "push" shouldn't have been considered a felony. At least that's what I thought when reading it.

Well, that's my entire point. Neither "push" should have been considered to be criminal. Deserving of discipline or retraining? Perhaps. Criminal? Certainly not.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: manowar821
Some of the old coots here need to get a different outlook on authority. The cops don't prevent much of anything, they just show up after the crime has been committed.
I can't remember the last time that the cops around here prevented ANYTHING.

Also, skateboarding is not a crime, at least not a moral crime. Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right. Why doesn't she go do something useful like beat the crap out of some white supremacists, break up a cult or two, or take the license away from that asshole that cut me off doing 80 in a 50 zone today? It's nice seeing that dude go flying down the highway freely, but when I get my little pocket-rocket 5mph over the limit, I get slapped with a 140 dollar fine.

My point is cops have no good judge of character, they're unfairly biased, and don't actually prevent nearly enough REAL CRIME. What a load of crap.

The law was passed because public and private property was being damaged by the skaters. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't want my tax dollars to go into building a nice stone wall and other public things only to have it destroyed and/or defaced by skaters grinding their boards on it.

The cop was doing her job. Her job is to enforce the law and stop crimes if they are in progress. The skaters repeatedly defied her order and the law. She was perfectly justified in using physical means to stop them when they would not stop after repeated verbal commands.

The problem isn't that I'm old, the problem is you need to grow up.

Don't like the law? Change it. Until then, her actions were justified.

No, the problem is that people these days have no clue how far the system is come. Like someone else said... 30 years ago they would have just cracked you in the head with a billyclub and probably put your ass in jail for a few nights. The policing system has grown in professionalism and education. They deal with criminal acts, emergencies, mental health issues, and a slew of other issues. 30 years ago that was few and far between. 100 years ago the prerequisite for being a cop was being big and a good fighter. By no means is the system today perfect, but it certainly beats the hell out of what we once had.

 

[Kanalua]

I think it was racial profiling and that the attack was predicated by racism. Make it a HATE CRIME!

Skateboarding is almost entirely enjoyed by whites.

 

[amdhunter]

He should have cracked her in the face with the skateboard.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: rivan
It looks to me like the cop was trying to stop him, not shove him into the bush.

And the response "Ohhh, it looks like you just assaulted someone..." makes me think the kids were trying for it.

Damned punks - they should be glad it's not 30 years ago, when they'd have been removed from their skateboards by a billy club. Seriously, kids like that do crap just to see how far they can push it. Skaters EVERYwhere know to look for no boarding signs, and these two seem like the type who were happy just to ignore it and see how long they could get away it with.

Do humanity a favor and refrain from breeding please.

Too late - already breeding. If I were a little more immature, I might hope the cops weren't around next time you needed them. But I'm not. You do humanity a favor and learn a new slam.

They've got a thankless job - they take it from one side that they can't prevent enough crime, and they take it from people like you when they enforce the law. Yes, there are cops that should NOT be cops. Then there are the other 98% that I'm pretty thankful for.

Well then, maybe i should gotten the hint about your age when you said "It looks to me like the cop was trying to stop him, not shove him into the bush.". Apparently you suffer from a major case of glaucoma.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: rivan
It looks to me like the cop was trying to stop him, not shove him into the bush.

And the response "Ohhh, it looks like you just assaulted someone..." makes me think the kids were trying for it.

Damned punks - they should be glad it's not 30 years ago, when they'd have been removed from their skateboards by a billy club. Seriously, kids like that do crap just to see how far they can push it. Skaters EVERYwhere know to look for no boarding signs, and these two seem like the type who were happy just to ignore it and see how long they could get away it with.

Do humanity a favor and refrain from breeding please.

Too late - already breeding. If I were a little more immature, I might hope the cops weren't around next time you needed them. But I'm not. You do humanity a favor and learn a new slam.

They've got a thankless job - they take it from one side that they can't prevent enough crime, and they take it from people like you when they enforce the law. Yes, there are cops that should NOT be cops. Then there are the other 98% that I'm pretty thankful for.

Well then, maybe i should gotten the hint about your age when you said "It looks to me like the cop was trying to stop him, not shove him into the bush.". Apparently you suffer from a major case of glaucoma.

Why does it really matter? You, obviously, have no way of knowing the intent of the officer and if the guy flopped on purpose. It isn't like we've got HD with 7 different angles. Besides that, getting pushed into a bush hardly constitutes any form of brutality.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: manowar821
Some of the old coots here need to get a different outlook on authority. The cops don't prevent much of anything, they just show up after the crime has been committed.
I can't remember the last time that the cops around here prevented ANYTHING.

Also, skateboarding is not a crime, at least not a moral crime. Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right. Why doesn't she go do something useful like beat the crap out of some white supremacists, break up a cult or two, or take the license away from that asshole that cut me off doing 80 in a 50 zone today? It's nice seeing that dude go flying down the highway freely, but when I get my little pocket-rocket 5mph over the limit, I get slapped with a 140 dollar fine.

My point is cops have no good judge of character, they're unfairly biased, and don't actually prevent nearly enough REAL CRIME. What a load of crap.

The law was passed because public and private property was being damaged by the skaters. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't want my tax dollars to go into building a nice stone wall and other public things only to have it destroyed and/or defaced by skaters grinding their boards on it.

The cop was doing her job. Her job is to enforce the law and stop crimes if they are in progress. The skaters repeatedly defied her order and the law. She was perfectly justified in using physical means to stop them when they would not stop after repeated verbal commands.

The problem isn't that I'm old, the problem is you need to grow up.

Don't like the law? Change it. Until then, her actions were justified.

I'm going to go off the handle for a moment, here, you got me going.

I forgot about taxes. You know what I don't want MY tax dollars being spent on? Murdering/raping Iraqi civilians, building churches (separation my ass), paying the salaries of senators who are too worried about their own reputation and take months to ever get anything done, and paying for pointless lawsuits against music "pirates" so that the lawyers can have their 3 BMWs and mansions.

The reason why I don't really care about "law" is because the very basis that this government is built on is sickening. Good people don't need laws and religion to treat others well.

I'm just sorry that there are so many retards out there that need the constraints to be civil. That includes the retards in uniform.
/rant

IMO - The kid did nothing wrong, and the cop shoved him. Which was my original point. Don't talk to me about what taxes should be spent on, or the NEED for authority, though.

 

[liquid51]

Originally posted by: IBuyUFO
hahaha punk got what he deserved. I hate it when these punk skaters ruin nice places with their skateboards.
Pwn3d
haha

Originally posted by: Amused
The law was passed because public and private property was being damaged by the skaters. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't want my tax dollars to go into building a nice stone wall and other public things only to have it destroyed and/or defaced by skaters grinding their boards on it.

Were these kids in the wrong? Sure. Was the kid actually assaulted when the cop "pushed" him? Not a chance. And do they deface public property, destroying benches, curbs and rails that your tax dollars pay for? You bet your ass.

I know, and probably quite a few others on this forum know, because they used to do the same exact thing.

But the issue behind a lot of this is is the stuffy old residents and officials voting down propisitions for decent skate parks so the kids might have a well maintained place that they'd actually like to skate. But no, most people would like to do away with skateboards all together because the tainted youth of America ride the infernal things and represent the evil inherent in the next generation :disgust:.

It's give and take from both sides. Are there still those that skate where they want just to spite the authorities? Sure, there'll always be. But it's really not the majority. Show you actually care about the youth and provide a decent place for them to ride and you'd definitaly see a decline in tax dollars spent on curb repair. But don't think you'll see that money back. The authorities that work so hard to make your life better just might be driving something a little nicer next year .

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: manowar821
Some of the old coots here need to get a different outlook on authority. The cops don't prevent much of anything, they just show up after the crime has been committed.
I can't remember the last time that the cops around here prevented ANYTHING.

Also, skateboarding is not a crime, at least not a moral crime. Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right. Why doesn't she go do something useful like beat the crap out of some white supremacists, break up a cult or two, or take the license away from that asshole that cut me off doing 80 in a 50 zone today? It's nice seeing that dude go flying down the highway freely, but when I get my little pocket-rocket 5mph over the limit, I get slapped with a 140 dollar fine.

My point is cops have no good judge of character, they're unfairly biased, and don't actually prevent nearly enough REAL CRIME. What a load of crap.

The law was passed because public and private property was being damaged by the skaters. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't want my tax dollars to go into building a nice stone wall and other public things only to have it destroyed and/or defaced by skaters grinding their boards on it.

The cop was doing her job. Her job is to enforce the law and stop crimes if they are in progress. The skaters repeatedly defied her order and the law. She was perfectly justified in using physical means to stop them when they would not stop after repeated verbal commands.

The problem isn't that I'm old, the problem is you need to grow up.

Don't like the law? Change it. Until then, her actions were justified.

I'm going to go off the handle for a moment, here, you got me going.

I forgot about taxes. You know what I don't want MY tax dollars being spent on? Murdering/raping Iraqi civilians, building churches (separation my ass), paying the salaries of senators who are too worried about their own reputation and take months to ever get anything done, and paying for pointless lawsuits against music "pirates" so that the lawyers can have their 3 BMWs and mansions.

The reason why I don't really care about "law" is because the very basis that this government is built on is sickening. Good people don't need laws and religion to treat others well.

I'm just sorry that there are so many retards out there that need the constraints to be civil. That includes the retards in uniform.
/rant

IMO - The kid did nothing wrong, and the cop shoved him. Which was my original point. Don't talk to me about what taxes should be spent on, or the NEED for authority, though.

After all that and you're still wrong.

The kid broke the law, repeatedly. The kid defied the cop's orders, repeatedly.

The police are the only reason you're alive. You can "fight the man" until you're blue in the face but all you're doing is cutting off your own nose to spite your face.

Now, I bet if some skaters were on YOUR property, and refused to leave when you told them, you'd be the first person to call those cops you profess to hate so much. And I bet you'd expect the cops to make the skaters stop, too.

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: manowar821
I'm going to go off the handle for a moment, here, you got me going.

I forgot about taxes. You know what I don't want MY tax dollars being spent on? Murdering/raping Iraqi civilians, building churches (separation my ass), paying the salaries of senators who are too worried about their own reputation and take months to ever get anything done, and paying for pointless lawsuits against music "pirates" so that the lawyers can have their 3 BMWs and mansions.

The reason why I don't really care about "law" is because the very basis that this government is built on is sickening. Good people don't need laws and religion to treat others well.

I'm just sorry that there are so many retards out there that need the constraints to be civil. That includes the retards in uniform.
/rant

IMO - The kid did nothing wrong, and the cop shoved him. Which was my original point. Don't talk to me about what taxes should be spent on, or the NEED for authority, though.

Could you clarify how your tax money goes to the bolded text?

Secondly, I don't see how you can say the kid did nothing wrong. He's destroying property that the public paid for (if it's a public area) and if it's private, then he's destroying private property. Would you be fine with me coming over to St. Paul and tagging your house or egging your car? The law is a necessary evil because people aren't that great and people don't all have the same values. There's a reason why rules were developed early on in society. Laws are just rules on a large scale scene. I challenge you to find a society where rules aren't in place.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: manowar821
Some of the old coots here need to get a different outlook on authority. The cops don't prevent much of anything, they just show up after the crime has been committed.
I can't remember the last time that the cops around here prevented ANYTHING.

Also, skateboarding is not a crime, at least not a moral crime. Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right. Why doesn't she go do something useful like beat the crap out of some white supremacists, break up a cult or two, or take the license away from that asshole that cut me off doing 80 in a 50 zone today? It's nice seeing that dude go flying down the highway freely, but when I get my little pocket-rocket 5mph over the limit, I get slapped with a 140 dollar fine.

My point is cops have no good judge of character, they're unfairly biased, and don't actually prevent nearly enough REAL CRIME. What a load of crap.

The law was passed because public and private property was being damaged by the skaters. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't want my tax dollars to go into building a nice stone wall and other public things only to have it destroyed and/or defaced by skaters grinding their boards on it.

The cop was doing her job. Her job is to enforce the law and stop crimes if they are in progress. The skaters repeatedly defied her order and the law. She was perfectly justified in using physical means to stop them when they would not stop after repeated verbal commands.

The problem isn't that I'm old, the problem is you need to grow up.

Don't like the law? Change it. Until then, her actions were justified.

I'm going to go off the handle for a moment, here, you got me going.

I forgot about taxes. You know what I don't want MY tax dollars being spent on? Murdering/raping Iraqi civilians, building churches (separation my ass), paying the salaries of senators who are too worried about their own reputation and take months to ever get anything done, and paying for pointless lawsuits against music "pirates" so that the lawyers can have their 3 BMWs and mansions.

The reason why I don't really care about "law" is because the very basis that this government is built on is sickening. Good people don't need laws and religion to treat others well.

I'm just sorry that there are so many retards out there that need the constraints to be civil. That includes the retards in uniform.
/rant

IMO - The kid did nothing wrong, and the cop shoved him. Which was my original point. Don't talk to me about what taxes should be spent on, or the NEED for authority, though.

After all that and you're still wrong.

The kid broke the law, repeatedly. The kid defied the cop's orders, repeatedly.

The police are the only reason you're alive. You can "fight the man" until you're blue in the face but all you're doing is cutting off your own nose to spite your face.

Now, I bet if some skaters were on YOUR property, and refused to leave when you told them, you'd be the first person to call those cops you profess to hate so much. And I bet you'd expect the cops to make the skaters stop, too.

I'd probably join them. I'm spent, I don't have anymore arguing left in me for today.

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: manowar821

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: manowar821
Some of the old coots here need to get a different outlook on authority. The cops don't prevent much of anything, they just show up after the crime has been committed.
I can't remember the last time that the cops around here prevented ANYTHING.

Also, skateboarding is not a crime, at least not a moral crime. Just because it's a "law" doesn't make it right. Why doesn't she go do something useful like beat the crap out of some white supremacists, break up a cult or two, or take the license away from that asshole that cut me off doing 80 in a 50 zone today? It's nice seeing that dude go flying down the highway freely, but when I get my little pocket-rocket 5mph over the limit, I get slapped with a 140 dollar fine.

My point is cops have no good judge of character, they're unfairly biased, and don't actually prevent nearly enough REAL CRIME. What a load of crap.

The law was passed because public and private property was being damaged by the skaters. I don't know about you, but I sure as hell don't want my tax dollars to go into building a nice stone wall and other public things only to have it destroyed and/or defaced by skaters grinding their boards on it.

The cop was doing her job. Her job is to enforce the law and stop crimes if they are in progress. The skaters repeatedly defied her order and the law. She was perfectly justified in using physical means to stop them when they would not stop after repeated verbal commands.

The problem isn't that I'm old, the problem is you need to grow up.

Don't like the law? Change it. Until then, her actions were justified.

I'm going to go off the handle for a moment, here, you got me going.

I forgot about taxes. You know what I don't want MY tax dollars being spent on? Murdering/raping Iraqi civilians, building churches (separation my ass), paying the salaries of senators who are too worried about their own reputation and take months to ever get anything done, and paying for pointless lawsuits against music "pirates" so that the lawyers can have their 3 BMWs and mansions.

The reason why I don't really care about "law" is because the very basis that this government is built on is sickening. Good people don't need laws and religion to treat others well.

I'm just sorry that there are so many retards out there that need the constraints to be civil. That includes the retards in uniform.
/rant

IMO - The kid did nothing wrong, and the cop shoved him. Which was my original point. Don't talk to me about what taxes should be spent on, or the NEED for authority, though.

After all that and you're still wrong.

The kid broke the law, repeatedly. The kid defied the cop's orders, repeatedly.

The police are the only reason you're alive. You can "fight the man" until you're blue in the face but all you're doing is cutting off your own nose to spite your face.

Now, I bet if some skaters were on YOUR property, and refused to leave when you told them, you'd be the first person to call those cops you profess to hate so much. And I bet you'd expect the cops to make the skaters stop, too.

I'd probably join them. I'm spent, I don't have anymore arguing left in me for today.

Sounds more like you lost than anything.

But what would I know, I'm just a retard in uniform to you.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: manowar821
I'm going to go off the handle for a moment, here, you got me going.

I forgot about taxes. You know what I don't want MY tax dollars being spent on? Murdering/raping Iraqi civilians, building churches (separation my ass), paying the salaries of senators who are too worried about their own reputation and take months to ever get anything done, and paying for pointless lawsuits against music "pirates" so that the lawyers can have their 3 BMWs and mansions.

The reason why I don't really care about "law" is because the very basis that this government is built on is sickening. Good people don't need laws and religion to treat others well.

I'm just sorry that there are so many retards out there that need the constraints to be civil. That includes the retards in uniform.
/rant

IMO - The kid did nothing wrong, and the cop shoved him. Which was my original point. Don't talk to me about what taxes should be spent on, or the NEED for authority, though.

while i agree the Officer was out of line and perhaps needs more training (i do agree assault charges may be over kill) you come off as a nutcase.

you rant really has nothing to do with the situation. sheesh.

 

[paulney]

Originally posted by: rivan
It looks to me like the cop was trying to stop him, not shove him into the bush.

And the response "Ohhh, it looks like you just assaulted someone..." makes me think the kids were trying for it.

Damned punks - they should be glad it's not 30 years ago, when they'd have been removed from their skateboards by a billy club. Seriously, kids like that do crap just to see how far they can push it. Skaters EVERYwhere know to look for no boarding signs, and these two seem like the type who were happy just to ignore it and see how long they could get away it with.

:thumbsup:

 

[Agentbolt]

I was all set to launch into an alcohol-fueled rant about how this cop is going to be guarding the local mall during the graveyard shift after the first time I watched the video, but after seeing the stiff-arm comments and re-watching it... yeah. Not assault. If you're gonna go skateboarding in a park, then go for it, but after the cop yells at you a few times, maybe it's time to stop.

She didn't exactly make a superhuman effort to stop him from going into the bushes, either. You stiff arm someone on a skateboard, you at least make a token effort to grab them by the shirt or something so they don't go flying 8 feet into the bushes. A slap on the wrist and a dope slop for the cop is what's in order, mostly for being an idiot and giving the kid who was boarding a free pass on a citation he had sorely coming.