Skyrim Special Edition

[escrow4]

In no particular order:

-> Generic fantasy fetch quests - check!
-> Generic civil war questline where the armies have a dozen soldiers because Gamebryo - check!
-> Generic save the world, dragons, prophecy yap yap yap - check!
-> Towns with three houses and 4 NPCs - check!
-> Ye olde gamebryo limited facial expressions and models - check!
-> Gods and naughty good vs evil - check!
-> Every generic fantasy trope since the Wizard of Earthsea - check!
-> Loot this spoon and fork and potato - check!
-> Look a brooding cave - check!
-> Look brooding gloomy ruins - check!
-> Look magical pool with trees that somehow is still gloomy and brooding - check!
-> Dwarves that drink but are really good at building.

I have never seen the point of the elder scrolls. The Witcher games just murder it. Tried Morrowind, too archaic and the combat sucks balls, tried Oblivion, such generic fantasy in trite Western generic fantasy land, tried Skyrim, a vast improvement to the game mechanics seeing as it was dumbed down but still trite fantasy.

How about you make a game where you break a prophecy, get so high you start floating, impregnate a few dwarves, randomly brutalize some peasants than strip naked and giggle maniacally? LEVEL UP.

 

[Scooby Doo]

Dunno about 3 but Witcher 2 isn't all that hot... forced character, lack of good customization, third person view, no real mods, clumsy potions

 

[norseamd]

Dunno about 3 but Witcher 2 isn't all that hot... forced character, lack of good customization, third person view, no real mods, clumsy potions

Every game has its strengths and weaknesses, but Witcher 2 was a better game than Witcher 3, at least at its soul.

 

[norseamd]

-> Dwarves that drink but are really good at building.

I fail to see how these would be contradictory. Your use of the word but is implying that it is an exception to that which would be contradictory.

 

[ritditditdidoo]

I have never seen the point of the elder scrolls. The Witcher games just murder it.

They don't deserve to be as big as they are imo. But the problem is that 14+ million people buy it in the first few months so they aren't going anywhere, and they have no reason to improve either. The Witcher 3 was far better in almost every way, but it is also the end of that series. I think if they were going to pump out that series regularly like Bethesda do, then the Elder Scrolls series would have some trouble and would have to actually push the boat out to stay competitive. But that isn't the case.

To me they have a lot of things going for them. An open world is nice, and although it looked like crap at release, a year or so later when I played it, the mods made it look pretty close to photo realistic, and for me it was actually playable at decent frame rates like that too. It looked really amazing. I do get a bit frustrated at having a load screen every time I go in a building, unlike Witcher 3, but overall I am happy enough with the technology of the game. My problem is the gameplay, and I could type a book on what is wrong with that. I think it was miles off being good even in Morrowind, and since then it has degenerated and become an incredibly dumbed down version of itself.

 

[zinfamous]

Dunno about 3 but Witcher 2 isn't all that hot... forced character, lack of good customization, third person view, no real mods, clumsy potions

Witcher 2 was pretty bad in the end: RPG on rails, terrible combat(Still better than TES games, though). All of the credit it gets for being pretty dismisses that every scene was crafted in a highly-controlled box, because you could never go to those pretty places.

But I understand that it greatly appeals to those that have open world fatigue, which I think is fair. Still, putting Witcher 2 above Witcher 3 in any way is just unconscionable. The story was a giant pile of nonsense for most of it (navigating through the political tripe, anyway).

Oh--and QTE's. No business being in any game.

 

[zinfamous]

I fail to see how these would be contradictory. Your use of the word but is implying that it is an exception to that which would be contradictory.

I know, it's like he's never met a contractor IRL.

 

[sweenish]

Their vision is so vast? They need the technology to catch up to what they want? You sound like a PR machine for Bethesda. The technology is there, they have been using the same old engine for way too long now. And the time spent on their MMO or this Skyrim remaster is time that could have been spent on the next Elder Scrolls. They have a handful of people working on concepts, you realize what we're saying is that they could have already been done with that and working on making the actual game? Deciding to release an MMO that no one wanted or a remaster definitely delays the next Elder Scrolls game, how could you even argue otherwise?

Aside from the PR speak at the very beginning, you failed to counter the main points.

The people that would be doing the remaster are NOT the same people that would be conceptualizing. There is no overlap, and there is no displaced talent.

Gamers need to stop being so needy and whiny. It's not like the game won't happen. And there's plenty else to play in the meantime.

 

[norseamd]

Witcher 2 was pretty bad in the end: RPG on rails, terrible combat(Still better than TES games, though). All of the credit it gets for being pretty dismisses that every scene was crafted in a highly-controlled box, because you could never go to those pretty places.

But I understand that it greatly appeals to those that have open world fatigue, which I think is fair. Still, putting Witcher 2 above Witcher 3 in any way is just unconscionable. The story was a giant pile of nonsense for most of it (navigating through the political tripe, anyway).

Oh--and QTE's. No business being in any game.

Your points are valid, but combat between the Witcher 2 and the Witcher 3 was a wash, each had their own respective strengths and weaknesses. But the dialogue and story was much, much better in the Witcher 2 than the Witcher 3. I suppose you could say both had good plots.

 

[escrow4]

Witcher 2 was pretty bad in the end: RPG on rails, terrible combat(Still better than TES games, though). All of the credit it gets for being pretty dismisses that every scene was crafted in a highly-controlled box, because you could never go to those pretty places.

But I understand that it greatly appeals to those that have open world fatigue, which I think is fair. Still, putting Witcher 2 above Witcher 3 in any way is just unconscionable. The story was a giant pile of nonsense for most of it (navigating through the political tripe, anyway).

Oh--and QTE's. No business being in any game.

The story was vastly better than III. III was Ciri Ciri Ciri Ciri and ridiculous time travelling with alternate worlds. II was short and it was on rails but it was tight and to the point and the plotting was excellent. The first 2 Witcher games plot wise are vastly better than III. You have an open world in III but the plot is poor. II was nonsense for you if you didn't pay attention and understand it I'm sure. And the lack of war in III was just odd. Ruined landscape but nothing going on. Meh.

 

[Leyawiin]

It would have been nice to see a Oblivion remaster

I would have loved that. HD textures, expanded physical character customization similar to Skyrim's, fix the bugs, etc... Yes, I know you can accomplish most of that with mods, but it would have been nice to have it ready to go without the tinkering. I played the heck out of Skyrim, but it just was missing something. I never really cared about the characters much in it like I did Oblivion. I haven't played it in about six years, but I think I'm ready for another go. The most daunting thing is rounding up the necessary mods and getting them to work properly.

https://youtu.be/LY41Q1FYokQ

 

[zinfamous]

The story was vastly better than III. III was Ciri Ciri Ciri Ciri and ridiculous time travelling with alternate worlds. II was short and it was on rails but it was tight and to the point and the plotting was excellent. The first 2 Witcher games plot wise are vastly better than III. You have an open world in III but the plot is poor. II was nonsense for you if you didn't pay attention and understand it I'm sure. And the lack of war in III was just odd. Ruined landscape but nothing going on. Meh.

The battle was at a stalemate during the time of the Witcher III story, but I guess you weren't paying attention to that, eh?

I was paying attention to Witcher II--like I said, political bollocks that really has nothing to do with a Witcher like Geralt, who only ever remains neutral and on a tangential line of everything going on around them.

Witcher 1 and III were stories that were far more relevant to the actual protagonist: Geralt. He wouldn't be getting himself directly involved in the war if it was going on anyway, which it wasn't at the time.

You could say that Geralt was out clearing his name and chasing one person down in Witcher 2, which isn't really any different from him chasing down another person in Witcher 3. With pointless political tomfoolery in Witcher 2 providing the side/general plot line, in Witcher 3 you have great tight storylines like the Baron or the various plots with Dykstra that are more in line with what a Witcher would be involved with. ...though I do wish the Radovid plotline were more developed and more consequential in actual gameplay.

 

[zinfamous]

I would have loved that. HD textures, expanded physical character customization similar to Skyrim's, fix the bugs, etc... Yes, I know you can accomplish most of that with mods, but it would have been nice to have it ready to go without the tinkering. I played the heck out of Skyrim, but it just was missing something. I never really cared about the characters much in it like I did Oblivion. I haven't played it in about six years, but I think I'm ready for another go. The most daunting thing is rounding up the necessary mods and getting them to work properly.

https://youtu.be/LY41Q1FYokQ

Well, The Skywind project is still happening, supposedly, which is a remastered Morrowind using an upgraded Skyrim engine.

 

[norseamd]

The battle was at a stalemate during the time of the Witcher III story, but I guess you weren't paying attention to that, eh?

I was paying attention to Witcher II--like I said, political bollocks that really has nothing to do with a Witcher like Geralt, who only ever remains neutral and on a tangential line of everything going on around them.

Witcher 1 and III were stories that were far more relevant to the actual protagonist: Geralt. He wouldn't be getting himself directly involved in the war if it was going on anyway, which it wasn't at the time.

You could say that Geralt was out clearing his name and chasing one person down in Witcher 2, which isn't really any different from him chasing down another person in Witcher 3. With pointless political tomfoolery in Witcher 2 providing the side/general plot line, in Witcher 3 you have great tight storylines like the Baron or the various plots with Dykstra that are more in line with what a Witcher would be involved with. ...though I do wish the Radovid plotline were more developed and more consequential in actual gameplay.

I think you misunderstand reality, political bollocks do not remain neutral.

 

[Fallen Kell]

Need to check if I have all the DLC to be able to get the "upgrade". I know I had most of them. I havn't gotten back into Skyrim since upgrading my RAID array (which it was stored on). I never felt like going through the pain of putting the mods back on that made it from a ok game into an awesome one. That said, I think they changed some of the mechanics to prevent people from doing some amazing crafting/enchanting (such as not allowing certain potions to be affected by enhancements to potions skills). Once you collected enough ingredients, you could make a certain potion that enhanced your potions making, use it, make another enhanced potion, which now further enhanced your potion making, repeat step one and two.... profit.... I think after going through 7-8 rounds of that, you can make potions that would give you +10,000% bonuses for things like enchanting/crafting weapons/armor. I went so far down that road once just to see that I made a weapon that did negative damage because it bit-flipped the signed long int used for the damage stats (exceeded 2.1billion damage). I also kept a ranged bow/crossbow (forget) which did soul-harvesting and 2 billion damage. Only pulled it out when I was in a real nasty spot and was otherwise overwhelmed.

 

[Leyawiin]

Well, The Skywind project is still happening, supposedly, which is a remastered Morrowind using an upgraded Skyrim engine.

Interesting... I would think the Oblivion adaptation would be pretty straightforward - the game's already completely voiced.

 

[norseamd]

Interesting... I would think the Oblivion adaptation would be pretty straightforward - the game's already completely voiced.

Actually, apparently the Skywind project is producing all new content themselves, which is why it is taking so long.

 

[Face2Face]

I played TW3 for 16hrs and completely lost interest. By comparison I played Skyrim for close to 300hrs and enjoyed every minute. Is it a perfect game? No, but it's still amazing in my book.

I plan on starting TW3 again after I'm done with a couple of other games.

 

[Fallen Kell]

So I just started re-installing this game. I never really played all the way through it, as it came out right when I was at the tail end of my graphics card cycle, and by the time I did upgrade the card, I had already moved on to other games. I did some things in it, some crafting, etc., but didn't really go through the main story or a lot of the content.

Right now I am in the process of following the S.T.E.P.S., and will probably put on some of the GEMS as well. What is funny, is that it seems to be harder to MOD then when I did this back in the day. The tools and/or the mods themselves now are not nearly as friendly as they were, requiring all kinds of disabling/hiding/removing parts of the mods, whereas before it seemed like the tools automatically did that for you...

 

[Sho'Nuff]

It has probably already been asked, but will the special edition still be on the god awful gambryo (ok, creation) engine? If so, I'll pass.

 

[zinfamous]

It has probably already been asked, but will the special edition still be on the god awful gambryo (ok, creation) engine? If so, I'll pass.

Yeah, whatever version was used for FO4, I think.

 

[shortylickens]

I hope they integrate everything into one esm and then fix all the bugs.

 

[norseamd]

I hope they integrate everything into one esm and then fix all the bugs.

We obviously hope so, but Bethesda is the last company I would trust to do anything of such caliber.

 

[Blue_Max]

Unlocks on Steam Oct 28. Looking forward to it!

 

[shortylickens]

Apparently PS4 owners are getting screwed over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBAGPw3h4JI