You said you had 5750 crossfire and then you sold the 2nd card. Im confused now.
This microstutter issue and a few others is exactly why I didn't pick up a second card to crossfire about 6 months ago. But that was with the 5000 series.
Ever heard of a caveat?
Its risk vs reward. To some people, dealing with the microsutter is worth the performance gain (grooveriding) to others it isn't. You can't come here and say it isn't there because some people don't see it. Thats some pretty moronic reasoning right there. If you actually knew how AFR works, you wouldn't even be having this argument. I think this might be the time to educate yourself in the way multigpu setups work.
The higher the framerate, especially if its waaay above 60fps the less pronounced it is. That might be why you don't hear about it as much now cause a 580sli and 6970xfire usually get high framerates in most games, but run something like 3dmark11 that brings the FPS down to sub 60fps levels and it will be more noticeable.
Ever heard of a caveat?
Its risk vs reward. To some people, dealing with the microsutter is worth the performance gain (grooveriding) to others it isn't. You can't come here and say it isn't there because some people don't see it. Thats some pretty moronic reasoning right there. If you actually knew how AFR works, you wouldn't even be having this argument. I think this might be the time to educate yourself in the way multigpu setups work.
The higher the framerate, especially if its waaay above 60fps the less pronounced it is. That might be why you don't hear about it as much now cause a 580sli and 6970xfire usually get high framerates in most games, but run something like 3dmark11 that brings the FPS down to sub 60fps levels and it will be more noticeable.
Read the post i just posted, over in general hardware it isn't recommended really at all so i dont see how "soooo many people" are recommending it.
Yeah, most of the time its usually people who already have one card and can add another really cheap.
You said you had 5750 crossfire and then you sold the 2nd card. Im confused now.
Skurge no offence buddy, but stop treating me like a retard.
I know what it is and when its more prevelent and when its not.
I'm trying to get to the bottom of the problem , and if its still relevant with the newer series of cards or not. I know it was a problem with the last series. The 5970 is a good example.
I said it was one of the reasons "I didn't" pick up a second card but that was the 5000 series, we all know that series had the problem as did the gtx200 series.
Here is a good example....
Say skurge was kinda a noob and I see he is building a "new rig soon", He says I'm buying this fast cpu ect. ect. ect. and a gtx570 for 330$.
Do I say thats a bad choice you can get 2 6850's for 310$ that is much faster or do I say eat the performance loss and the 20$ because of the chance he might see the microstutter with the 6850's?
Again, just how bad is it with the NEWER series of cards?
Should we make a new thread and find out?
What do you guys think?
I know this and agree but since the new series of cards has been released, I really haven't heard much complaining ,in fact I hear nothing but good things.
If the problem that we all know still exists but is basically not detactable or dosen't hurt the game experience, then I would say its basically irrelevent.
So AMD fans are not recommending crossfire mostly on anecdotal evidence and some first hand bad experiences. Check, got it.
And the state of dual gpu is exactly the same , regardless of company, check,
so that applies to scaling to ? / sarcasm and xxx(sound) reasoning.
You are comparing apples to oranges. Scaling is related to drivers and the hardware, microstutter is related to the lag in between each card pushing its frame to the screen.
I think multi gpu is good tech and totally viable. But microstutter is a fact of the technology and found on sli and crossfire. No amount of driver work is going to do anything about it.
Of course there is, in drivers. All one has to do is use Nvidia inspector and you can see all the different hex code values used for games in sli profiles. Engineers examine , test and adjust the timing of the gpu rendering.
Constantly. And I bet some scaling % is sacrified at times to give the best game experience.
But of course all we see thrown around ,when this tech is recommended is scaling %'s.
I am a layman also, but from reading many resources I know there is much adjustment that can be done that is contained in the 'profiles'. Tricks are done when the master and slave card are not simply splitting every other frame .Can you explain this to us common folk how this works? How they can predict the exact circumstances and actually slow down one GPU so it renders that exact frame in the same time the 2nd gpu will render the next one? That is some voodoo programing right there.
Well, I have no freakin' idea what each of those bits do - they are undocumented and I've searched all over the internet for some sort of hint on what each one does - even the guy who wrote nHancer has no idea what they do. We only know how Nvidia has "tweaked" each profile based on information they got from the developers of the game (just a guess).
This might sound totally dumb to some experts here, BUT:You are comparing apples to oranges. Scaling is related to drivers and the hardware, microstutter is related to the lag in between each card pushing its frame to the screen.
I think multi gpu is good tech and totally viable. But microstutter is a fact of the technology and found on sli and crossfire. No amount of driver work is going to do anything about it.