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TheStu

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I think the problem with screen resolutions is fragmentation. I think what devs need to do is create all of their apps in super super hi res so that its future proof and then downscale them to whatever screen size.

So long as they aim for specific aspect ratios, then they should be ok.
 

kaerflog

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I think its all matter of preference. Smartphones today have pretty nice screens. I'm not sure how we were able to tolerate LCD's in the past.

After owning an iPHone4 though, I don't think I can go back to a non retina display. I'd like a 4.3" retina screen.

I did this photoshop render a week or so ago. Its what an iPhone4 would look like with a 4.3" screen. Looks pretty sweet to me.


Nice mockup but I'd rather have a 4"inch screen.
If Apple did this in their next generation, I might turn into an Apple fan boy.
 

MrX8503

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Nice mockup but I'd rather have a 4"inch screen.
If Apple did this in their next generation, I might turn into an Apple fan boy.

Thanks.

I think Apple is going to have to create a bigger screen phone. By next year almost all super smartphones will be 4"+. If their next iPhone isn't 4.3", I think it'll be 4" at the very least.
 

Phobic9

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Had the iPhone 4 launched with a higher res 4" screen, I probably would've went to that over the Droid X. I'm fairly certain Apple will be making a larger screen on the next iPhone though.
 

DivideBYZero

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I think the problem with the Galaxy S is the over driving of colours. It's so vibrant that it's hyper real, i.e., everything seems forced and unnatural.
 

MrX8503

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I think the problem with the Galaxy S is the over driving of colours. It's so vibrant that it's hyper real, i.e., everything seems forced and unnatural.

This is the nature of OLED displays. Some like it, some don't, so its all about preference. Me personally I want accurate colors.
 

dguy6789

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This is the nature of OLED displays. Some like it, some don't, so its all about preference. Me personally I want accurate colors.

I wouldn't say OLED is less accurate. LCD doesn't approach perfection by any means. The two technologies just go in different directions of inaccuracy with over and under saturation for OLED and LCD.

With all of the pros and cons considered, I think it's a no brainer that the OLED technology produces the better picture(True blacks, perfect contrast, perfect viewing angles, faster response time, no backlight). What the iPhone 4 has going for it is just a really high resolution.
 

QueBert

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I wouldn't say OLED is less accurate. LCD doesn't approach perfection by any means. The two technologies just go in different directions of inaccuracy with over and under saturation for OLED and LCD.

With all of the pros and cons considered, I think it's a no brainer that the OLED technology produces the better picture(True blacks, perfect contrast, perfect viewing angles, faster response time, no backlight). What the iPhone 4 has going for it is just a really high resolution.

OLED's less accurate, the colors look overly rich which I find ugly. LCD's looks pretty decent outside, my old iPhone was like a 5/10 in the sunlight. Not great but good enough to use. Where OLED's in sunlight are a 3/10 and not usable to me. My Zune HD outside,? Forget it. OLEDs don't produce a better picture to me, the images don't look natural and are missing the subtleness of a good LCD. They have a lot of work to get them to that point. But, they won't because most people like images that pop rather than look like what they're suppose to.
 

MrX8503

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I wouldn't say OLED is less accurate. LCD doesn't approach perfection by any means. The two technologies just go in different directions of inaccuracy with over and under saturation for OLED and LCD.

With all of the pros and cons considered, I think it's a no brainer that the OLED technology produces the better picture(True blacks, perfect contrast, perfect viewing angles, faster response time, no backlight). What the iPhone 4 has going for it is just a really high resolution.

I think OLED's are less accurate. Color accuracy is measured by a low delta E, not contrast, viewing angles, or response times.

OLED does have the advantage of displaying black because the black on an OLED is actually a pixel turned off, but black is only 1 color. On the flip side, its whites are bluish, so it still has some things to overcome.

OLED is still in its infancy and its blue led has a much shorter lifespan than the rest of the colors. We'll have to wait for OLED to mature to see its true advantages.

OLED's less accurate, the colors look overly rich which I find ugly. LCD's looks pretty decent outside, my old iPhone was like a 5/10 in the sunlight. Not great but good enough to use. Where OLED's in sunlight are a 3/10 and not usable to me. My Zune HD outside,? Forget it. OLEDs don't produce a better picture to me, the images don't look natural and are missing the subtleness of a good LCD. They have a lot of work to get them to that point. But, they won't because most people like images that pop rather than look like what they're suppose to.

SAMOLED solves the sunlight problem of OLEDs.
 

rudeguy

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SAMOLED solves the sunlight problem of OLEDs.

Yep. My Vibrant kicks into overdrive when its in direct sunlight. I'm basically color blind so I can't tell you how it looks. I know that I can still check out websites and play Robo Defense in direct sunlight. Its kind of cool when I get out of my car and the sun hits my phone. Its like it switches gears and all of the sudden its a different display.
 

zerocool84

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Uh...I don't choose a phone based on one thing. BTW, an IPS display is more accurate than an OLED.

No one chooses a phone based on one thing but you said you wanted accurate and the Droid seems to be the only one even close to being accurate. All displays are different. Even if the use the same technology every display acts differently from different companies. This review shows the iPhone is as innaccurate as OLED.
 

MrX8503

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No one chooses a phone based on one thing but you said you wanted accurate and the Droid seems to be the only one even close to being accurate. All displays are different. Even if the use the same technology every display acts differently from different companies. This review shows the iPhone is as innaccurate as OLED.

I'm not jamming a phone down your throat and telling you what to buy, so chill.

OLED is less accurate because its colors are over saturated and the whites are blue. I want an accurate screen and many other things.
 

zerocool84

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I'm not jamming a phone down your throat and telling you what to buy, so chill.

OLED is less accurate because its colors are over saturated and the whites are blue. I want an accurate screen and many other things.

Geez so hostel. You said you want an accurate screen and the iPhone screen is as inaccurate as an OLED screen. That's all I said. Don't know why you gotta get your panties in a twist over it.
 

MrX8503

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Geez so hostel. You said you want an accurate screen and the iPhone screen is as inaccurate as an OLED screen. That's all I said. Don't know why you gotta get your panties in a twist over it.

No what you're doing is twisting my words into what you want so you can get you're point across. I'm not telling you what phone to get, so keep it to yourself. I'll repeat it for the 3rd time, color accuracy is one aspect of choosing what phone to own.
 

zerocool84

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No what you're doing is twisting my words into what you want so you can get you're point across. I'm not telling you what phone to get, so keep it to yourself. I'll repeat it for the 3rd time, color accuracy is one aspect of choosing what phone to own.

You said you want a display with color accuracy and I simply said to get the Droid as that's the only one that has it. Every other phone display either over or under saturates a lot.
 

Nebor

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You people talking about accurate colors have some sort of photoshop or professional publishing apps on your phone? How does your phone hook up to your enterprise quality color accurate printer? Do you demand the same level of excellence from your local ice cream parlor as you do from your phone's screen? How do you feel about the color accuracy of the rainbow sprinkles?
 

QueBert

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You people talking about accurate colors have some sort of photoshop or professional publishing apps on your phone? How does your phone hook up to your enterprise quality color accurate printer? Do you demand the same level of excellence from your local ice cream parlor as you do from your phone's screen? How do you feel about the color accuracy of the rainbow sprinkles?

Do you want a screen where whites look like a very light blue? I don't expect Diamontron level colors and accuracy on my cell phone, but blue'ish whites kill it for me. All I ask for is whites that look white.
 

Spicedaddy

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iphone 4 has a really nice screen but I prefer the Samsung Galaxy-S screens... much more vibrant and deeper blacks.

That's important on a TV. Most of my time on a phone is spent reading text, so I'll take the higher res over "vibrant colors".
 

MrX8503

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You said you want a display with color accuracy and I simply said to get the Droid as that's the only one that has it. Every other phone display either over or under saturates a lot.

Thanks for the input, but no thanks. I'd rather not repeat things four times.

You people talking about accurate colors have some sort of photoshop or professional publishing apps on your phone? How does your phone hook up to your enterprise quality color accurate printer? Do you demand the same level of excellence from your local ice cream parlor as you do from your phone's screen? How do you feel about the color accuracy of the rainbow sprinkles?

I'm not demanding true to life colors here. I'm just saying if a screen is more accurate, then it gets points in my book. I work with print so I may be a bit more sensitive to color accuracy.

FWIW, I've stated from the very beginning that SAMOLED vs IPS was a matter of preference, but some people can't live with what people prefer.
 

Shlong

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Yep. My Vibrant kicks into overdrive when its in direct sunlight. I'm basically color blind so I can't tell you how it looks. I know that I can still check out websites and play Robo Defense in direct sunlight. Its kind of cool when I get out of my car and the sun hits my phone. Its like it switches gears and all of the sudden its a different display.

Outdoors is where the Super Amoled excels:

 

Shlong

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That's important on a TV. Most of my time on a phone is spent reading text, so I'll take the higher res over "vibrant colors".

I watch movies (avatar), tv shows, youtube all on the phone so different needs for different folks.
 
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