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Red Irish

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Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
What a foolish maneuver. It would have been far easier to just kill him. Now we have to deal with all of the nonsense that goes along with keeping a fool like that alive. This is why this country is failing. We have become too weak to complete even the simplest of tasks. Everyone knows this.

he prolly has mental health issues. its very likely that he can be rehabilitated.

More beer?
 

adairusmc

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Jul 24, 2006
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Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Meh...not bad, but...

"One of Hathcock's most famous accomplishments was shooting an enemy sniper through his scope, hitting him in the eye and killing him.[2] Hathcock and John Roland Burke, his spotter, were stalking the enemy sniper in the jungle near Hill 55, the firebase Hathcock was operating from. The sniper had already killed several Marines and was believed to have been sent specifically to kill Hathcock.[9] When Hathcock saw a flash of light (light reflecting off the enemy sniper's scope) in the bushes,[2] he fired at it, shooting through the scope and killing the sniper.[5] Surveying the situation, Hathcock concluded that the only feasible way he could have put the bullet straight down the enemy's scope and through his eye would have been if both snipers were zeroing in on each other at the same time, and Hathcock fired first, which gave him only a few seconds to act.[9] Given the flight time of rounds at long ranges, both snipers could easily have killed one another.[8] The enemy rifle was recovered and the incident is documented by a photograph."

Carlos "White Feather" (Lông Tr?ng) Hathcock was a GOD with a rifle.

Hathcock's career as a sniper came to a sudden end outside Khe Sanh in 1969, when an amphibious amtrack he was riding on struck an anti-tank mine.[5] Hathcock pulled seven Marines off the flame-engulfed vehicle before jumping to safety. He was told he would be recommended for the Silver Star, but he stated that he had only done what anyone there would have if they were awake, so he rejected any commendation for his bravery. Nearly 30 years later, he was awarded the Silver Star, the third most prestigious award in U.S. military.

:beer:

Hathcock is Chuck Mawhinney's Bitch
 

Banzai042

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Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: Poulsonator


Yea, they proved it could happen (firing a bullet through a scope into someone's eye). Good episode.

Umm, if I recall, they claimed it was impossible for a bullet to continue travelling in a straight path after breaking the first one or two lenses.

Their first test shooting a Vietnam era sniper rifle (Same one in the "myth") at a modern scope with standard ammo did conclude that it couldn't have happened. The Retest, using the same sniper rifle, a scope of the type that would have been used by the enemy sniper (Far fewer lenses) and armor piercing rounds that snipers at the time used proved that it is in fact possible, if unlikely.
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Meh...not bad, but...

"One of Hathcock's most famous accomplishments was shooting an enemy sniper through his scope, hitting him in the eye and killing him.[2] Hathcock and John Roland Burke, his spotter, were stalking the enemy sniper in the jungle near Hill 55, the firebase Hathcock was operating from. The sniper had already killed several Marines and was believed to have been sent specifically to kill Hathcock.[9] When Hathcock saw a flash of light (light reflecting off the enemy sniper's scope) in the bushes,[2] he fired at it, shooting through the scope and killing the sniper.[5] Surveying the situation, Hathcock concluded that the only feasible way he could have put the bullet straight down the enemy's scope and through his eye would have been if both snipers were zeroing in on each other at the same time, and Hathcock fired first, which gave him only a few seconds to act.[9] Given the flight time of rounds at long ranges, both snipers could easily have killed one another.[8] The enemy rifle was recovered and the incident is documented by a photograph."

Carlos "White Feather" (Lông Tr?ng) Hathcock was a GOD with a rifle.

Hathcock's career as a sniper came to a sudden end outside Khe Sanh in 1969, when an amphibious amtrack he was riding on struck an anti-tank mine.[5] Hathcock pulled seven Marines off the flame-engulfed vehicle before jumping to safety. He was told he would be recommended for the Silver Star, but he stated that he had only done what anyone there would have if they were awake, so he rejected any commendation for his bravery. Nearly 30 years later, he was awarded the Silver Star, the third most prestigious award in U.S. military.

:beer:

Hathcock is Chuck Mawhinney's Bitch

I'd argue that only in that Mawhinney had more confirmed kills. BOTH were great men...and GODS with their rifles.
Hathcock was done before I enlisted...but the stories they told about him gave every rifleman "something to aim for"...

 

SphinxnihpS

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Feb 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: Cogman
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
I like how after he was rendered harmless, two thug cops decided it's a good idea to throw the guy over his chair and then stomp on him some...

Yes, because they really should have trusted a man who just moments earlier was waving a gun at them and himself not to try and grab the gun again :disgust:

The only person he pointed it at was himself. It was a suicide standoff. I'm positive the gun, not only would have wound up out of reach, but it also would have been unusable. The stomping was so necessary...

I feel like it should bother people when law enforcement uses excessive force.
 

illusion88

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Oct 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Cogman
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
I like how after he was rendered harmless, two thug cops decided it's a good idea to throw the guy over his chair and then stomp on him some...

Yes, because they really should have trusted a man who just moments earlier was waving a gun at them and himself not to try and grab the gun again :disgust:

The only person he pointed it at was himself. It was a suicide standoff. I'm positive the gun, not only would have wound up out of reach, but it also would have been unusable. The stomping was so necessary...

I feel like it should bother people when law enforcement uses excessive force.

At the end of the video, when they show the criminal tied up with zip ties, the gun is clearly visible a few feet behind him. Although the video showed no attempt to reclaim the weapon, it seems possible that he could have. However, the gun probably wouldn't be usable except as something to throw at or beat the police with.
 

TehMac

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Yeah, I've read some books about him. Pretty crazy stuff. I always thought that through-the-scope story sounded apocryphal though...

Didn't MythBusters bust that?[/quote]

I think they busted the "Saving Private Ryan" scenario with the rifles they were using then. Note that by Vietnam they were using more high powered specifically designed sniper rifles.
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Originally posted by: Cogman
Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
I like how after he was rendered harmless, two thug cops decided it's a good idea to throw the guy over his chair and then stomp on him some...

Yes, because they really should have trusted a man who just moments earlier was waving a gun at them and himself not to try and grab the gun again :disgust:

The only person he pointed it at was himself. It was a suicide standoff. I'm positive the gun, not only would have wound up out of reach, but it also would have been unusable. The stomping was so necessary...

I feel like it should bother people when law enforcement uses excessive force.

The use of force may have been slighltly excessive towards the end; however, they shot a gun out of his hand and avoided injurying him or anyone else in the process.

I agree with your sentiment; however, I don't feel it's applicable in this case.
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: TehMac
Originally posted by: nick1985
Yeah, I've read some books about him. Pretty crazy stuff. I always thought that through-the-scope story sounded apocryphal though...

Didn't MythBusters bust that?

I think they busted the "Saving Private Ryan" scenario with the rifles they were using then. Note that by Vietnam they were using more high powered specifically designed sniper rifles.[/quote]

I never said the above quote.
 

Gothgar

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Originally posted by: Poulsonator
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Blackjack200
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Meh...not bad, but...

"One of Hathcock's most famous accomplishments was shooting an enemy sniper through his scope, hitting him in the eye and killing him.[2] Hathcock and John Roland Burke, his spotter, were stalking the enemy sniper in the jungle near Hill 55, the firebase Hathcock was operating from. The sniper had already killed several Marines and was believed to have been sent specifically to kill Hathcock.[9] When Hathcock saw a flash of light (light reflecting off the enemy sniper's scope) in the bushes,[2] he fired at it, shooting through the scope and killing the sniper.[5] Surveying the situation, Hathcock concluded that the only feasible way he could have put the bullet straight down the enemy's scope and through his eye would have been if both snipers were zeroing in on each other at the same time, and Hathcock fired first, which gave him only a few seconds to act.[9] Given the flight time of rounds at long ranges, both snipers could easily have killed one another.[8] The enemy rifle was recovered and the incident is documented by a photograph."

Carlos "White Feather" (Lông Tr?ng) Hathcock was a GOD with a rifle.

Yeah, I've read some books about him. Pretty crazy stuff. I always thought that through-the-scope story sounded apocryphal though...

Didn't MythBusters bust that?

Yea, they proved it could happen (firing a bullet through a scope into someone's eye). Good episode.

The movie Sniper was loosely based on Hathcock right?

Good shit

I have the same rifle he used ftw


/cant shoot nearly as well

 

PlasmaBomb

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Nov 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Without watching the video I know this is a huge repost.

Gee... we hadn't established that.

Thread is now about the awesomeness of snipers in general and Hathcock in particular.
 

PlasmaBomb

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Nov 19, 2004
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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Blackjack200
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Meh...not bad, but...

"One of Hathcock's most famous accomplishments was shooting an enemy sniper through his scope, hitting him in the eye and killing him.[2] Hathcock and John Roland Burke, his spotter, were stalking the enemy sniper in the jungle near Hill 55, the firebase Hathcock was operating from. The sniper had already killed several Marines and was believed to have been sent specifically to kill Hathcock.[9] When Hathcock saw a flash of light (light reflecting off the enemy sniper's scope) in the bushes,[2] he fired at it, shooting through the scope and killing the sniper.[5] Surveying the situation, Hathcock concluded that the only feasible way he could have put the bullet straight down the enemy's scope and through his eye would have been if both snipers were zeroing in on each other at the same time, and Hathcock fired first, which gave him only a few seconds to act.[9] Given the flight time of rounds at long ranges, both snipers could easily have killed one another.[8] The enemy rifle was recovered and the incident is documented by a photograph."

Carlos "White Feather" (Lông Tr?ng) Hathcock was a GOD with a rifle.

Yeah, I've read some books about him. Pretty crazy stuff. I always thought that through-the-scope story sounded apocryphal though...

Didn't MythBusters bust that?

Using a police industry standard SWAT sniper rifle and standard police match ammunition, the MythBusters fired several shots at a scoped rifle mounted on a ballistics gel dummy. Unfortunately, the bullet was unable to hit the dummy. The bullet was either stopped or deflected by the multiple layers of lenses in the scope, leaving the dummy relatively unharmed. Without any clear evidence that a bullet can penetrate a sniper scope, the MythBusters decided to label the myth as busted.

*This myth was originally labeled "busted", but due to much debate by viewers it was revisited in episode 75. Using a period-accurate scope (this myth originates from reports of Carlos Hathcock in the Vietnam War), it was found to be plausible.
 

Gothgar

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Sep 1, 2004
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Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Blackjack200
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Meh...not bad, but...

"One of Hathcock's most famous accomplishments was shooting an enemy sniper through his scope, hitting him in the eye and killing him.[2] Hathcock and John Roland Burke, his spotter, were stalking the enemy sniper in the jungle near Hill 55, the firebase Hathcock was operating from. The sniper had already killed several Marines and was believed to have been sent specifically to kill Hathcock.[9] When Hathcock saw a flash of light (light reflecting off the enemy sniper's scope) in the bushes,[2] he fired at it, shooting through the scope and killing the sniper.[5] Surveying the situation, Hathcock concluded that the only feasible way he could have put the bullet straight down the enemy's scope and through his eye would have been if both snipers were zeroing in on each other at the same time, and Hathcock fired first, which gave him only a few seconds to act.[9] Given the flight time of rounds at long ranges, both snipers could easily have killed one another.[8] The enemy rifle was recovered and the incident is documented by a photograph."

Carlos "White Feather" (Lông Tr?ng) Hathcock was a GOD with a rifle.

Yeah, I've read some books about him. Pretty crazy stuff. I always thought that through-the-scope story sounded apocryphal though...

Didn't MythBusters bust that?

Using a police industry standard SWAT sniper rifle and standard police match ammunition, the MythBusters fired several shots at a scoped rifle mounted on a ballistics gel dummy. Unfortunately, the bullet was unable to hit the dummy. The bullet was either stopped or deflected by the multiple layers of lenses in the scope, leaving the dummy relatively unharmed. Without any clear evidence that a bullet can penetrate a sniper scope, the MythBusters decided to label the myth as busted.

*This myth was originally labeled "busted", but due to much debate by viewers it was revisited in episode 75. Using a period-accurate scope (this myth originates from reports of Carlos Hathcock in the Vietnam War), it was found to be plausible.

wasn't it established a while ago that Mythbusters had in fact jumped the shark?

They half ass every myth they try
 
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