So... CoD 4

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: martensite
The best matches I've played are on 8 vs 8 servers, with the 'hardcore' settings- HUD disabled, FF on and the weapons boosted. One or two rounds from almost any weapon is all it takes to bring down a guy. Otherwise, on the normal servers, the weapons are a bit too weak- half a mag from an AK to take down a tango seems to be a bit excessive.

But COD4 MP is way too addictive!

Yep, hardcore is way more fun.

But they REALLY need to do something about the sniper rifles in the PC version.

On the 360, you couldnt expect such pinpoint accuracy with a regular gun + dual analog, so the extra zoom on the sniper rifle might have afforded you some extra accuracy and kills, despite the absurd amount of instability without holding breath or without the guarantee that one shot will kill the enemy.

On the PC, other rifles are just plain superior. In fact, Id definitely say that an M14 with a red dot scope is FAR more accurate AND precise than an M21 with a sniper scope, despite the fact theyre essentially the same gun.

I'd take any assault rifle, probably even any SMG or LMG at long range, over a sniper rifle in just about all cases. No matter how inaccurate that second shot of the spray might be, you can guarantee the first shot is going exactly where you aimed it for everything but a sniper rifle.

I really dont see the point in gimping the snipers on the PC because of the console port's issues.

 

[Genx87]

The sway on the sniper rifle is crazy. You are right in saying other guns with a red dot are more accurate.

I tried sniping but found for the the same effort, i could use an M4 with red dot and get way more kills. The only difference is I won be able to hit somebody really far away, but most maps dont have opportunities to hit targets from that distance anyways.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: Genx87
The sway on the sniper rifle is crazy. You are right in saying other guns with a red dot are more accurate.

I tried sniping but found for the the same effort, i could use an M4 with red dot and get way more kills. The only difference is I won be able to hit somebody really far away, but most maps dont have opportunities to hit targets from that distance anyways.

Exactly. The problem is, I really dig the ghille suit.

There's zero reason it should be like this on the PC other than laziness. Its not like sniper rifles could be better, its that theyre *absolutely* useless, unless you are blind and/or running in 320x240 and wouldnt be able to see your target otherwise.

 

[martensite]

I haven't tried sniping much TBH, my preferred weapon of choice is either the M4 or AK, with the red dot sight. On slightly larger maps, but only on hardcore, I go for the G3, which kills really fast . I dare not try the G3 on the normal servers.

I also wish they'd tone down the stupid airstrikes. They occur with alarming frequency if you happen to be on the losing side

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: martensite
I haven't tried sniping much TBH, my preferred weapon of choice is either the M4 or AK, with the red dot sight. On slightly larger maps, but only on hardcore, I go for the G3, which kills really fast . I dare not try the G3 on the normal servers.

In hardcore, G3 + red dot + stopping power = deadly accurate, little recoil, 1 hit kill 99% of the time. Its better than any sniper rifle ever could be, but stunningly useless in non-hardcore.

I also wish they'd tone down the stupid airstrikes. They occur with alarming frequency if you happen to be on the losing side

Seriously. And the helicopter is also rape in hardcore.

I also find martyrdom to be the most irritating ability of all. Its a total noob perk for those completely lacking in skill and just want to mooch kills off of decent players by playing poorly and dying.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: martensite
I haven't tried sniping much TBH, my preferred weapon of choice is either the M4 or AK, with the red dot sight. On slightly larger maps, but only on hardcore, I go for the G3, which kills really fast . I dare not try the G3 on the normal servers.

I also wish they'd tone down the stupid airstrikes. They occur with alarming frequency if you happen to be on the losing side

airstrikes and helos need to go or at least make it harder to get them. i've played games where its been a constant airstrike or helo bombardment. its not fun. the radar needs to go also. one of the dumbest features for an FPS ever. I can live with UAV scans, but rather see them gone as well.


This is something that I've wondered for awhile now. Most games that have sniper rifles make the crosshairs move when you use the scope but not any other guns. its supposed to be realistic. but why doesn't it happen when you hold any other gun or use iron sights? your character can hold the gun perfectly still for hours any other time. even with red dot sights and such. how is that realistic?

 

[darom]

Yeah, I agree about airstrikes and nade dropping POS idea. I can hear that click still as well. Airstrike kills, say, 4-5 players, then a chopper follows it, of course. After a few more kills, you add more on your own and you get another airstrike. At some point, in one game we were getting so many airstrikes, I had to wait in queue to get mine in.

Anybody else noticed the poor execution of the hit&miss algorithm in COD4? In COS:S, for example, a player with 25-30ms latency vs. a player with 100-120ms has pretty good chances of hitting the enemy. In COD4 the players with high latency appear 'jumping' or 'skipping' frames. So it is not the job of the server to predict where the player is going to be, but mine firing way ahead of the skipping bastard. That's one of the reasons I gave up on the sniper rifles. I see an enemy standing, I shoot with 'steady rifle' button pressed and miss. I know I should have nailed him easily. P90 comes in handy against high latency guys - spray and prey. Is that .50 cal sniper rifle a one-shot-one-kill deal? I didn't get that far in ranks to play around with it.


Now let's talk about 'bonny hopping' in COD4. It almost doesn't exist - however, some players came up with a brilliant idea of standing up and dropping to the ground while shooting at you. Geniuses. I also applaud those server admins who kick the jumping sobs from their servers. If they jump around, let them go and play CS 1.6.

 

[swtethan]

.50 Cal Barret is NOT 1 shot kill which is BS! And yes I tried to hit this one guy 3-4 times with it and NO hits. It pissed me off so much. Usually I use my G3 + red dot sight. its so easy to pick a guy across the map with that thing. That gun and the M11? M14? something like that coupled with a red dot is deadly accurate and powerful. I usually build with the Golden Desert Eagle and bandolier, deep impact, stopping power perks. Its really fun trying to run around and knifing people though, I built a class just for that. All you have to get is a UAV jammer and Longer sprinting distances. Got 50 knife kills in one level one night.

 

[Vampirrella]

wow great game, i enjoyed the SP part a lot even though its quite short. I think i played through it in 10 hrs, give or take. A few missions were so hard that i had to replay them a few times to win it.

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: BD2003


I also find martyrdom to be the most irritating ability of all. Its a total noob perk for those completely lacking in skill and just want to mooch kills off of decent players by playing poorly and dying.

BWAHAHAHAHA! The only map I use that is on "shipment" along with my P90 and 3x frags + sonic boom.

 

[pontifex]

what perks gives you 3x nades? i thought it was bandolier but that only adds more ammo clips.

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: pontifex
what perks gives you 3x nades? i thought it was bandolier but that only adds more ammo clips.

Perk 1


You have to unlock it.

 

[swtethan]

I would have thought the perk "overkill" would be nice, but seriously who needs two primary weapons? I could see like.... G3 + 50 cal sniper rifle maybe :Q I have to try that tonight.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: swtethan
I would have thought the perk "overkill" would be nice, but seriously who needs two primary weapons? I could see like.... G3 + 50 cal sniper rifle maybe :Q I have to try that tonight.

i think it depends. its usually not hard to find another gun lying on the ground from a dead enemy or teammate. although you run the chance of it not havign much ammo. i almost always switch out my pistol for another rifle. do you also get a pistol or does the 2nd gun just replace the pistol?

it might work well with bandolier, unless those are in the same perk slot. that way you have tons of ammo.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: swtethan

Originally posted by: pontifex
what perks gives you 3x nades? i thought it was bandolier but that only adds more ammo clips.

Perk 1


You have to unlock it.

whats the perk called though?

 

[darom]

It is called '3X frag' perk.

Once you unlock the overkill perk, if you choose so, you will replace your pistol with a SMG or whatever you want.

A .50 cal sniper rifle should be able to kill a guy in one shot. It would have been nice to have gore servers online, where a part of a body like on SOF can be ripped off.

 

[martensite]

Martyrdom....damn so that's what it is. I was wondering how grenades used to crop up mysteriously when I killed someone. That's just rubbish.
I dont like the last stand perk either. :frown:

On normal servers that have the radar map, I usually go with an assault rifle+ UAV jammer + deep impact, which seems to suit my style of play. I find that stealth is very useful on a lot of the maps.

Not much of a nade user, so I dont care about secondary nades as long as I get atleast 1 frag nade. (Reminds me how the german Kar98ers would get 3 nades and spam everyone in COD2 MP lol)

As for 2 primary weapons, I don't mind swapping my pistol for something if I am low on ammo for my primary weapon. Often, I end up with both an AK for close range and a G3 for long range.

Lack of bunny hopping is a strong positive, that alone makes me want to play more.:thumbsup:

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: swtethan
I would have thought the perk "overkill" would be nice, but seriously who needs two primary weapons? I could see like.... G3 + 50 cal sniper rifle maybe :Q I have to try that tonight.

i think it depends. its usually not hard to find another gun lying on the ground from a dead enemy or teammate. although you run the chance of it not havign much ammo. i almost always switch out my pistol for another rifle. do you also get a pistol or does the 2nd gun just replace the pistol?

it might work well with bandolier, unless those are in the same perk slot. that way you have tons of ammo.

The perk is called 3xfrag

Also, The second primary is replacing the sidearm, who needs a sidearm anyway! Bandolier would kinda be useless also since its TWO primary weapons. overkill + stopping power for me i guess.... or UAV jammer.

 

[larry89]

I like you you're trying to cover yourself then idiot teammate walks along standing up right next to you with guns blazing exposing where you are and causing a grenade to kill you both.

I also like when my team crowds in one freaking building only to have a guy with a SAW mow us all down like a bunch of field mice beating eating alive by a brigade of cats.

 

[darom]

Originally posted by: larry89
I also like when my team crowds in one freaking building only to have a guy with a SAW mow us all down like a bunch of field mice beating eating alive by a brigade of cats.

That's when I like sending an airstrike when the whole enemy team is camping one spot.

 

[BD2003]

Originally posted by: swtethan
I would have thought the perk "overkill" would be nice, but seriously who needs two primary weapons? I could see like.... G3 + 50 cal sniper rifle maybe :Q I have to try that tonight.

It will allow you to have the ghille suit from the sniper class, combined with a weapon that is actually worthwhile, such as the G3 or M14.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: martensite
Martyrdom....damn so that's what it is. I was wondering how grenades used to crop up mysteriously when I killed someone. That's just rubbish.
I dont like the last stand perk either. :frown:

On normal servers that have the radar map, I usually go with an assault rifle+ UAV jammer + deep impact, which seems to suit my style of play. I find that stealth is very useful on a lot of the maps.

Not much of a nade user, so I dont care about secondary nades as long as I get atleast 1 frag nade. (Reminds me how the german Kar98ers would get 3 nades and spam everyone in COD2 MP lol)

As for 2 primary weapons, I don't mind swapping my pistol for something if I am low on ammo for my primary weapon. Often, I end up with both an AK for close range and a G3 for long range.

Lack of bunny hopping is a strong positive, that alone makes me want to play more.:thumbsup:

yeah, i hate martyrdom too. a lot of people think it should only work if you have a nade in your inv. if not, then it doesn't work. although with last stand, if you have no pistol, you magically get one anyway.

also, bout martyrdom, don't use it on a FF on server and on a game type like headquarters or maybe its domination. if you die while your teammates are with you, they blow up too and you just stopped capping that point.

last stand isn't too bad because i usually make sure the guy is dead, although i've been killed by it a few times.

i always swap my pistol for something else if i can.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: larry89
I like you you're trying to cover yourself then idiot teammate walks along standing up right next to you with guns blazing exposing where you are and causing a grenade to kill you both.

I also like when my team crowds in one freaking building only to have a guy with a SAW mow us all down like a bunch of field mice beating eating alive by a brigade of cats.

hehe...yep, that sucks too. i hate that teammates can block doors and stuff. i've died so many times because some idiot was in my way and i couldn't escape a nade or something.

 

[ayabe]

matyrdom annoyed me too at first, but you just gotta be ready to sprint at all times. I rarely die from it anymore unless I'm in a small room or get blocked by a teammate.

I highly recommend playing HQ games as you will most likely score 2-3 times as many points and rank up a lot faster.

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: larry89
I like you you're trying to cover yourself then idiot teammate walks along standing up right next to you with guns blazing exposing where you are and causing a grenade to kill you both.
I also like when my team crowds in one freaking building only to have a guy with a SAW mow us all down like a bunch of field mice beating eating alive by a brigade of cats.

hehe yes! especially when i have UAV jammer and a silencer on! i usually just type to them "hey asshole, stop blowing my stealth cover!"