I don’t think anyone here believes the man deserved to die.I sincerely thank you! Not believing the murdered guy deserved to die is what puts me over the top.
Well, I'm making no distinction between thinking he deserved it and justifying the kill. And there are several people justifying it.I don’t think anyone here believes the man deserved to die.
So the boyfriend comes charging out of the store. How dare someone give his woman a hard time. He is the alpha male, he is going to show himself, the woman and the world. Full of pride and anger.
All the while letting his woman, a working mother of three, drive him around. Sitting comfortably in the passenger seat.
Letting his woman drive him around?So the boyfriend comes charging out of the store. How dare someone give his woman a hard time. He is the alpha male, he is going to show himself, the woman and the world. Full of pride and anger.
All the while letting his woman, a working mother of three, drive him around. Sitting comfortably in the passenger seat.
Like all women should know that somewhere inside of them want their men drive them around? Or should they just know that they shouldn't drive at all?I guess what some of you are incapable of understanding is that dysfunctional behavior has a way of attracting likewise. Happens all the time. At the unconscious level, that is what is sought. Though if you ask such folks, they will vehemently deny it. That awareness is not there.
But these things are not what the media society and people are interested in knowing. The things we don’t know that we don’t know. Better to stick to the usual talking points....and of course reverend al sharpton!
Like all women should know that somewhere inside of them want their men drive them around? Or should they just know that they shouldn't drive at all?
If it leads me to the mindfuckery that is you then no, that is never a path I will take.It is entirely predictable that you would take this meaning out of it.
Also regarding dysfunctional behavior attracting likewise, back up a few posts. If you are at all interested in looking at things from a broader perspective. Which you are not at least the way you are uptil now. It may change in future. Or it may not.
It was so cute I liked it on purpose.Might want to correct that @imported_tajmahal , you liked my post by mistake.
This is the first i've heard of him shouting obscenities at her and/or her kids. Got a reasonable link?Poor woman was pinned in her car by a crazed gunman who was shouting obscenities and threats at her and her poor defenseless children loud enough for many other people to take notice including people in the store... The boyfriend was right to come to his family's defence and try to put distance between the shooter and his loved ones... Sadly he paid with his life.
Just imagine how many would have died had there been less witnesses...
So owning your insanity. Finally!It was so cute I liked it on purpose.
So the boyfriend comes charging out of the store. How dare someone give his woman a hard time. He is the alpha male, he is going to show himself, the woman and the world. Full of pride and anger.
All the while letting his woman, a working mother of three, drive him around. Sitting comfortably in the passenger seat.
I guess what some of you are incapable of understanding is that dysfunctional behavior has a way of attracting likewise. Happens all the time. At the unconscious level, that is what is sought. Though if you ask such folks, they will vehemently deny it. That awareness is not there.
But these things are not what the media society and people are interested in knowing. The things we don’t know that we don’t know. Better to stick to the usual talking points....and of course reverend al sharpton!
It is entirely predictable that you would take this meaning out of it.
Also regarding dysfunctional behavior attracting likewise, back up a few posts. If you are at all interested in looking at things from a broader perspective. Which you are not at least the way you are uptil now. It may change in future. Or it may not.
Tampa Bay Times did some good digging on the shooter. He has a history of road rage and threatening people with his gun. Nobody really knows much about him otherwise. He appears to be a very angry loner. I still believe (and hope) the AG will charge him.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/publi...in-stand-your-ground-shooter-s-past_170719109
Nailed it. Noah ain't right in the head but it feels so good to him he won't let it go without a fight. I'm not even sure Moonie would get onboard fully with Noah's madness but they do have a lot in common.Wow, this is a, well not a new low for you, but certainly right up there with some of the lowest that you've sunk to.
Ah, yes, the good old blame the victim bullshit. Well if this family had just been the perfect white Christians, they wouldn't have had this happen to them! Clearly this guy must be a deviant for letting "his woman" drive a car! How dare he sit in the passenger seat!
Do you fucking listen to yourself? If its subconscious then no shit they wouldn't be consciously aware of it. (Seriously?) But then your whole point is garbage. You're desperately trying to justify this guy getting murdered for defending his family against some fucking rage filled piece of shit that goes around forcing his insanity onto other people. But yes its their fucking faults because they subconsciously wanted it to happen.
What, the, fuck is wrong with you?
What the fuck other meaning was there to take? You literally were denigrating the guy, calling him an alpha male that was being a loser for letting his girlfriend drive him around? So you were basically saying that women have no place driving men around. And then you were trying to project your own insecurities on him by trying to denigrate him with that alpha male bullshit because he dared to go out and confront a fucking guy yelling at a woman and children in a car.
Ok, and then you're just babbling. Bull fucking shit. Wow you're straight up fucked in the head. Like you need to start seeking help level fucked in the head because you seemingly don't realize how fucked up the stuff you're saying is. Talk about needing a broader perspective. Holy shit.
This guy was a disaster waiting to happen.
It's funny that you're even asking the question I've bolded.I haven't kept on this thread and I'm too lazy to go back and read pages, but my question for those who justify the shooting:
If that woman had had a gun and shot the guy who was verbally attacking her, would she have been justified? I mean here was this bad-ass "alpha" Male all up in her face exerting his dominance and making her fear for her safety, right? The answer is yes, she was just standing her ground. She didn't have a gun, she had large husband who also feared for her safety. That was the trigger that got pulled and the dick was still alive. The difference was that pussy on the ground was too weak to accept his consequences for aggressively provoking a confrontation. He was a fearful piece of shit who brought this upon himself and got his ass taken out. He was afraid like so many people hiding behind their guns. I just wish she would have killed him and went with the "standing my ground defense". We would have one less fearful piece of shit and one more person who at least was protecting his family (in that moment at least).
I am sure you will not recognize the hypocrisy though.
No. If what you say is true (that his confrontation would be considered “verbally attacking”), the difference was that one was verbal and one was physical. We don’t get to hear what he said but, regardless, the law doesn’t equate the two and neither should we.I haven't kept on this thread and I'm too lazy to go back and read pages, but my question for those who justify the shooting:
If that woman had had a gun and shot the guy who was verbally attacking her, would she have been justified? I mean here was this bad-ass "alpha" Male all up in her face exerting his dominance and making her fear for her safety, right? The answer is yes, she was just standing her ground. She didn't have a gun, she had large husband who also feared for her safety. That was the trigger that got pulled and the dick was still alive. The difference was that pussy on the ground was too weak to accept his consequences for aggressively provoking a confrontation. He was a fearful piece of shit who brought this upon himself and got his ass taken out. He was afraid like so many people hiding behind their guns. I just wish she would have killed him and went with the "standing my ground defense". We would have one less fearful piece of shit and one more person who at least was protecting his family (in that moment at least).
I am sure you will not recognize the hypocrisy though.
Well that’s the thing that’s always struck me about the SYG laws. In any case where there is a confrontation and one person shoots the other, the one who got shot could have legally shot the one who shot them first.I haven't kept on this thread and I'm too lazy to go back and read pages, but my question for those who justify the shooting:
If that woman had had a gun and shot the guy who was verbally attacking her, would she have been justified? I mean here was this bad-ass "alpha" Male all up in her face exerting his dominance and making her fear for her safety, right? The answer is yes, she was just standing her ground. She didn't have a gun, she had large husband who also feared for her safety. That was the trigger that got pulled and the dick was still alive. The difference was that pussy on the ground was too weak to accept his consequences for aggressively provoking a confrontation. He was a fearful piece of shit who brought this upon himself and got his ass taken out. He was afraid like so many people hiding behind their guns. I just wish she would have killed him and went with the "standing my ground defense". We would have one less fearful piece of shit and one more person who at least was protecting his family (in that moment at least).
I am sure you will not recognize the hypocrisy though.
I don’t think that’s how it works. For one, it doesn’t appear that they even knew he was armed. If he threatened them with the weapon first, maybe then, but that doesn’t seem to have happened. Simply having a firearm while telling someone that they shouldn’t illegally park is not a justifiable reason to shoot him under SYG.Well that’s the thing that’s always struck me about the SYG laws. In any case where there is a confrontation and one person shoots the other, the one who got shot could have legally shot the one who shot them first.
They were obviously armed and there was a confrontation. Any reasonable juror would consider that enough to fear for their life. Plus if you shoot first and there’s no video evidence it’s your word against a dead person.
Any law that lets whoever kills first be the legal one needs to go.
It's funny that you're even asking the question I've bolded.
The answer is clearly: No. A verbal confrontation is not justification for physical violence.
He doesn't deserve to get violently shoved to the ground for mouthing off at an inconsiderate asshole.
He doesn't deserve to die for mouthing off at an inconsiderate asshole.
Even if he himself is an asshole.
The husband's reaction to a man having words with his wife is to violently shove him to the ground -- even though his wife was clearly in-the-wrong by parking in a handicap parking space and the man was justifiably upset. Violent bullies might be deterred if they expect their target could be armed.
The only question here is whether the husband was no longer a threat because he was turning away. It all happened pretty quick. It might be difficult to process whether the threat has ended while you're still dazed from being shoved to the ground.
The murdered man brought a shove to a gun fight. You're right he deserved to be killed more than the man with a gun verbally assaulting a mean woman who took a parking spot not designated for her. A spot he took it upon himself to babysit and harass people over while armed.It's funny that you're even asking the question I've bolded.
The answer is clearly: No. A verbal confrontation is not justification for physical violence.
He doesn't deserve to get violently shoved to the ground for mouthing off at an inconsiderate asshole.
He doesn't deserve to die for mouthing off at an inconsiderate asshole.
Even if he himself is an asshole.
The husband's reaction to a man having words with his wife is to violently shove him to the ground -- even though his wife was clearly in-the-wrong by parking in a handicap parking space and the man was justifiably upset. Violent bullies might be deterred if they expect their target could be armed.
The only question here is whether the husband was no longer a threat because he was turning away. It all happened pretty quick. It might be difficult to process whether the threat has ended while you're still dazed from being shoved to the ground.