So i got a DUI

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sjwaste

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When I was in college, I got cited (not for DUI) because I was walking home drunk. I didn't have anything in my possession, but back then, it was acceptable to cite someone for possession when they admit to having consumed some beer. I wish I had fought that one, just to keep me from having to pay $200 for the worthless alcohol class. VASAP is designed for DUI offenders, but my class was full of college kids who either got DIPs or Underage Possession. I had to do some community service, which I actually didn't mind. Met some cool town folk that way and got to help out a charity that would later make the news because its president was siphoning off funds to remodel his house. The actual people that worked for the charity were very nice, though.

It comes down to being a local money grab, really. I think one kid a few years after I graduated lawyered up and got the bullshit "positive BAC = possession" overturned.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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welcome to the club... i have 1 too, still under license suspension for it... you can however get an occupational license and drive from 7 to 7 legally...

mine was from a car accident, and i had no breathalyzer/sobriety test, i actually went to the hospital, they filed the charge "at large" and i ended up being arrested for it like almost 3 months later, took a light plea bargain, and it's over with now except the license suspension.

Not exactly...you have to be coming from or going to your job. Chances are if you are stopped a cop will verify. They will have your tag on file...if you have two cars you are probably under the radar.

In my town our police have license plate scanners, they nail everyone.

It's all about revenue, not lives.

Interesting you got a plea bargain...in almost any place today DUI has a mandatory sentence that even the judge can't overrule.
 

cKGunslinger

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rhino56, i have zero tolerance for anyone whom drinks and drives as a friend of mine was killed by a drunk. some states, they confiscate your vehicle too. personally, if it were up to me, you would be force to drive around with a bright yellow license plate that says so others know to watch out.

it's not as bad as people who text/talk on cell, put on makeup, wear headphones, while driving, but it's still pretty bad.

how would you feel if you killed someone while drunk? next time, call a friend or take a taxi.

Your outrage, while justified, seems misplaced here. Did you actually read the thread?
 

Adul

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I was walking out of the gas station with a case of beer in each hand, they saw that i was going to my car and came up to me in the parking lot. Asked if i was drunk i said no i just had 2 beers, one with my dinner and one after, so it was about 2 beers for 2 hours at least.

i was getting beer so i didn't have to go out again that night. They asked me in a friendly way and i told them the truth, i only lived 1/4 mile from the gas station. A small town back in the 90's things were a lot different as far as cops letting you slide on stuff. However they were jerks and immediately cuffed me and booked me for DUI. So im just gonna get this bs behind me and the lady who runs adsap in SC made the decision, she could have wiaved it due to the age, but they want money, bottom line.




This was my first offense, i was arrested, paid the fine and released, i never heard anything else about it for 20 years. I don't drink at all, i have not even had a speeding ticket since then. This is a blatent case of people in a position of power abusing it.
What they are doing is not illegal by SC law, but it is highly unjust.

This is the letter ill be bringing to my counsler here this tuesday LOL
says right on it 1990 (my name blocked out to prevent internet stalkers from coming to my house and trying to rape me.)

http://www.ls1truck.com/upload/files/1/Picture 147.jpg


Why isn't this in the first post?
 

alevasseur14

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Feb 12, 2005
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That really sucks, dude. Have you initiated a civil suit to recover for your 100k in legal bills? You might not get it all, probably won't, but you might get something.

Might be a pretty easy win. He was convicted, so even though it was stayed, you might be able to plead negligence per se, get it on summary judgment, and then go right to damages. An actual lawyer in your own jurisdiction could make sense of it. This is the type of thing that would get taken on contingency.

Also, was he insured? Generally speaking, shouldn't his auto insurance company be paying your bills under his liability coverage? If that doesn't cover it, go after him for the deficiency.

I realize the legal system sounds like it's a no-win, get the lawyer rich scenario, but even if you get $0, stick it to this guy in court for almost killing you.

We're in the process of filing suit against the golf course that over-served him. Their insurance company is 'investigating' but they haven't talked to anyone and won't return my attorney's calls. We sent them a letter last week stating that if they didn't respond by July 1, the suit would be filed.

Today actually marks the one year anniversary of the crash. I can still 'feel' the parts of my spleen that ended up dying. It's weird.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Cabs here are cheap and plentiful, although I'm sure that more suburban areas can't say the same.

that's the rub. Most drinking folks like most folks are at the bottom of the disposable income scale. When they go out they are fully spent. A cab for most is not close to the happening spots they frequent. That free cab ride home usually gets their car towed, if offered.

Still none of them are really killing anyone due to their drinking. It's a sad mix of those drinking a bit late at night and then interacting on foot or behind a wheel. Usually it's the person trying to cross a street too drunk to even walk that walks out in front of a guy that would have hit them even if not drinking.

Fortunately this is rare. However, it's the common thing in drinking areas with DUI deaths.

IMHO law enforcement should do GANG traffic stops rather than DUI ones.

No money in it though.
 

alkemyst

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We're in the process of filing suit against the golf course that over-served him. Their insurance company is 'investigating' but they haven't talked to anyone and won't return my attorney's calls. We sent them a letter last week stating that if they didn't respond by July 1, the suit would be filed.

Today actually marks the one year anniversary of the crash. I can still 'feel' the parts of my spleen that ended up dying. It's weird.

Fuck that over-serving shit. Fuck these lawsuits.

It's sad you were hurt, but focus on the person that hurt you, not everyone else they passed that day or week/month/year.
 

alevasseur14

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Fuck that over-serving shit. Fuck these lawsuits.

It's sad you were hurt, but focus on the person that hurt you, not everyone else they passed that day or week/month/year.

That's really easy for you to say, I'm sure. I don't want to sue anybody but the dude is jobless and his insurance company has already paid out. You know what I got from them? 34K. Doesn't even come close. The hospital and my health ins. co. are arguing over a 50K write off the hospital agreed to and then wanted to take back. So, this whole nightmare could get 50K more expensive.

I almost died, both my parents took over a week off to stay with me in the hospital and had to buy a new car, and it took me off my bike (it's the only car I have) for 3 months. I just graduated from college and I'm over 100K in debt for something I didn't do and can never hope to pay off? Fuck that. Either the Golf Course pays my medical bills or I declare bankruptcy. Those are my choices.
 

alkemyst

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That's really easy for you to say, I'm sure. I don't want to sue anybody but the dude is jobless and his insurance company has already paid out. You know what I got from them? 34K. Doesn't even come close. The hospital and my health ins. co. are arguing over a 50K write off the hospital agreed to and then wanted to take back. So, this whole nightmare could get 50K more expensive.

I almost died, both my parents took over a week off to stay with me in the hospital and had to buy a new car, and it took me off my bike (it's the only car I have) for 3 months. I just graduated from college and I'm over 100K in debt for something I didn't do and can never hope to pay off? Fuck that. Either the Golf Course pays my medical bills or I declare bankruptcy. Those are my choices.

Like I said it sucks...you are in the entitlement crowd.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
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well actually I was, not due to a DUI, but due to an insufficient insurance policy on the old lady that hit my ex-wife.

We were left with about $100k in bills.

I was only 23 at the time....16 years later I am holding up fine.
 

Babbles

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Jan 4, 2001
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I hate it when cities have laws where you cannot park in municipal lots or metered spaces from 3am to 6am (or thereabouts). You get punished for leaving your car overnight so in a way you have an incentive to drive home after the bars close.

Granted that should not be an excuse for going on a nightly bender, but regardless I think it is relatively hypocritical to punish those that want to be responsible by getting alternative transportation home and leave their car.
 

alevasseur14

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well actually I was, not due to a DUI, but due to an insufficient insurance policy on the old lady that hit my ex-wife.

We were left with about $100k in bills.

I was only 23 at the time....16 years later I am holding up fine.

Fair enough. But if you were dumb enough to just sit there and swallow all those bills, I guess there's no use explaining myself further.

So you think people should be able to sue anyone they came across the day they did damage?

In Minnesota, there are laws in place that hold establishments that over-serve someone accountable. The bar at the course never should have continued serving him and after multiple people warned them about this guy, they should have made sure he wasn't driving when he left. There are way more details involved that I haven't shared and these details don't make me feel bad at all for asking the golf course to pay my medical bills.

As I mentioned before, I don't want to sue anybody but I'll be damned if I'm going to pay for someone else's fuckup. Forgive me for thinking I'm "entitled" to not having my financial well being fucked up for the rest of my life.
 

OBLAMA2009

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this sucks. cops and courts have tried to create pariahs out of people who have consumed small amounts of alcohol and screwed up their lives in order to create a financially lucrative industry for themselves and judging from the ignorant comments from the dummies here they seem to have succeeded.

instead of screwing up people like op they should concentrate on crap like this:

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0416/lawsuit-drunk-cop-ran-woman-supervised-investigation/

and this:

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/john-ardelean-chicago-police-dui-crash-killed-two.html

and this:

http://www.duiblog.com/2009/02/22/drunk-cop-kills-woman-cops-arrest-scapegoat/

or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu41iMVU3q0

and this:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1f4_1179038976

(cliffs: cops that actually harm other people, unlike op, and then get away with it scot-free, because they are cops instead of doctors, lawyers, garbage collectors, students, etc...these are the types they need to bring back *** **** as a punishment for, imo)
 
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boomhower

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Sep 13, 2007
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this sucks. cops and courts have tried to create pariahs out of people who have consumed small amounts of alcohol and screwed up their lives in order to create a financially lucrative industry for themselves and judging from the ignorant comments from the dummies here they seem to have succeeded.

instead of screwing up people like op they should concentrate on crap like this:

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0416/lawsuit-drunk-cop-ran-woman-supervised-investigation/

and this:

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/06/john-ardelean-chicago-police-dui-crash-killed-two.html

and this:

http://www.duiblog.com/2009/02/22/drunk-cop-kills-woman-cops-arrest-scapegoat/

or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu41iMVU3q0

and this:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1f4_1179038976

(cliffs: cops that actually harm other people, unlike op, and then get away with it scot-free, because they are cops instead of doctors, lawyers, garbage collectors, students, etc...these are the types they need to bring back *** **** as a punishment for, imo)

You get any population of people together as large as every law enforcement professional and you are going to get some screw ups, there isn't a whole lot you can do about it. If they get off you need to come down on the DA's, they are voted in.
 

BabaBooey

Lifer
Jan 21, 2001
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Too bad he got ya so early,maybe next time you will get the chance to actually kill someone or yourself......... D:


 
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