So I've got kittens

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Lifer
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Let me see if i got this correct. Mommy cat just suffered a bad break up, so went to a local bar got drunk and had unprotected sex, hence becoming a baby mama to an athlete? Whicn means endless days in court trying to sue for kitten support payments to keep up the lifestyle of luxury.
 

M0oG0oGaiPan

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I thought you're supposed to wait until they're a certain amount of months old before spaying? Not sure about neutering. There's a way to get the spaying done free through certain groups. (Might be aspca) I'll ask my gf about it later. I found a kitten that's she's raising. It's like 9 months old now.
 

randomrogue

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Don't get them spayed/neutered at the vet if it's that much. Talk to your local animal shelter about getting it done cheaper. Fixing was like $25 last time I did it. A bit more for shots too.

Never give the cats away. People will do horrible things to them or eat them. Charge money unless you absolutely know them.

Get on facebook, here, etc and have people share the pictures. If I was there I'd grab one and you can see that others would as well. You just need to get local people to see the pictures.
 

Rakehellion

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You need to spend some time volunteering at a shelter where cats have to be put down because nobody will adopt them.

Send those kittens to a shelter where they will at least have a chance to not spawn more unwanted cats. Kittens stand a very good chance to be adopted, it's the adult ones that get put down.

Exactly. I don't want them to be put down. I've been caring for them for the past three months, so why would I drop them off at a shelter to be crammed in a cage and killed when they stop being objectively cute?




I called the Toby Projects Vet Mobile line and got a callback. They say you want to call the ASPCA at 877-SPAY-NYC.

They do the free/lowest cost spay and neutering around. They have all kinds of programs you might qualify for. If you are low income or on any kind of public assistance you can may be able to get it done for $5/animal.

If I wasn't broke (and I mean broke broke) I would send you $20 to help out.

Good luck.

The ASPCA charges a flat $125 for dog, cat, male, or female. That's more than the Toby Project. There's another project that does free operations for feral cats, but I'm not sure how that works and I've had a hard time getting in contact with them.


I thought you're supposed to wait until they're a certain amount of months old before spaying? Not sure about neutering. There's a way to get the spaying done free through certain groups. (Might be aspca) I'll ask my gf about it later. I found a kitten that's she's raising. It's like 9 months old now.

Supposedly, it's fine to do at eight weeks. But that's before puberty, so the males end up looking like females.


Don't get them spayed/neutered at the vet if it's that much. Talk to your local animal shelter about getting it done cheaper. Fixing was like $25 last time I did it. A bit more for shots too.

Never give the cats away. People will do horrible things to them or eat them. Charge money unless you absolutely know them.

Get on facebook, here, etc and have people share the pictures. If I was there I'd grab one and you can see that others would as well. You just need to get local people to see the pictures.

I am charging a small adoption fee. I've been trying to do this on Facebook and through friends, but I've gotten no serious responses.

There are low-cost services available, but resources for these are extremely limited so it's hard enough to get one cat fixed, let alone eight.
 

gorobei

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set up a ustream or youtube channel. use it to collect donations for spay/neuter and food.
http://www.ustream.tv/sevenkittens

this will also help in getting them adopted.

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CZroe

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OP, we already addressed your concern about animal shelters: They are kittens. That doesn't happen to healthy tame kittens. They WILL be adopted and you won't have to pay a thing for getting them fixed. The new owners will be vetted too. Win. Win. Win. That's what you do with strays. Probably should have done it while the mom was still preggers.
 

Rakehellion

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OP, we already addressed your concern about animal shelters: They are kittens. That doesn't happen to healthy tame kittens. They WILL be adopted and you won't have to pay a thing for getting them fixed. The new owners will be vetted too. Win. Win. Win. That's what you do with strays. Probably should have done it while the mom was still preggers.

I don't know if they're healthy or tame. I'm not trying to drop them in the hands of an unknown corporation and get nothing but a pat on the ass and a receipt. I want to know they're in good hands.
 

CZroe

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I don't know if they're healthy or tame.
Of course you do. They grew up with you and they let you touch them. If they aren't healthy to boot, then the shelter is even better (they will receive care). I'm saying that a lame kitten may not get adopted. I'm not talking about worms or hidden chronic conditions.

I'm not trying to drop them in the hands of an unknown corporation and get nothing but a pat on the ass and a receipt. I want to know they're in good hands.
And you risk that very thing happening the longer you wait. A shelter has an application process to make sure they are in good hands. If you truly want peace of mind, you'd take them to the shelter.
 

CZroe

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Make sure it's the right shelter. A lot of shelters are indeed, and many by necessity, kill shelters. Warning, the photos and info at this link is not happy stuff.

http://www.petapixel.com/2013/02/26/disturbing-photos-capture-the-realities-of-euthanization-at-animal-shelters/#more-102574

We know. Who doesn't know? That's why I made it a point to say how irrelevant that is for such adoptable kittens. Jeez. Quit trying to discourage him from doing the right thing! The kittens are clearly old enough to turn over without their mom.
 
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Iron Woode

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I don't know if they're healthy or tame. I'm not trying to drop them in the hands of an unknown corporation and get nothing but a pat on the ass and a receipt. I want to know they're in good hands.
call the North Shore Animal League and see if they will take them. They will be in the hands of professionals who obviously care about animals.
 

thedarkwolf

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I thought you're supposed to wait until they're a certain amount of months old before spaying? Not sure about neutering. There's a way to get the spaying done free through certain groups. (Might be aspca) I'll ask my gf about it later. I found a kitten that's she's raising. It's like 9 months old now.

They have to be at least 8 weeks old and 3lbs.

I have a low cost place near me that is like $35 for males and $40 for females.
 

MrSquished

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We know. Who doesn't know? That's why I made it a point to say how irrelevant that is for such adoptable kittens. Jeez. Quit trying to discourage him from doing the right thing! The kittens are clearly old enough to turn over without their mom.

discourage from doing the right thing? what kind of logical wasteland do you come from anyways?
 

CZroe

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discourage from doing the right thing? what kind of logical wasteland do you come from anyways?

The right thing is not to waste time and risk not getting good owners while they are still easily adoptable and/or give these kittens to people who may not get them fixed.

As we discussed, healthy tame kittens rarely end up euthanized. Despite the pictures in the article you link to, the risk is so low that it would be irresponsible to not do so in fear of that happening.

It's almost like telling people not to vaccinate their children because some perfectly healthy kids have adverse reactions to it.

KEY POINTS:
The man can't afford to have them fixed.
They need to be fixed.
The man wants to make sure they get a caring owner.
The man wants to make sure they don't end up becoming pet food.
The man does not know if they are healthy.

The shelter addresses all of these concerns. The cat was a stray. If this isn't the most perfect and ideal solution for such a situation, just when do you expect people to utilize such a service? I guess you only want feral and known-diseased animals to go to shelters where the kill rate will suddenly skyrocket because people were too scared to send adoptable pets there. Self-fulfilling prophecy. A shelter is the best way for the OP to get what he wants for these cats and I stand by that. I specifically wanted a kitten to raise with a small dog so that they would get along and noticed that NONE of the San Diego County shelters could keep kittens up for adoption for more than a day. They were usually adopted as soon as they photos were posted. We ended up getting a small dog instead (mini pin mix), as it was the perfect playmate. We wanted a kitten for other reasons than "cute" but we saw that demand was simply too great for "cute" kittens.

Shelters are very much aware of the disproportionate demand for puppies and kittens. The questionnaire is very particular because they want to make sure that it doesn't end up being sent right back once it outgrows being "cute."
 
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MrColin

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OP, we already addressed your concern about animal shelters: They are kittens. That doesn't happen to healthy tame kittens. They WILL be adopted and you won't have to pay a thing for getting them fixed. The new owners will be vetted too. Win. Win. Win. That's what you do with strays. Probably should have done it while the mom was still preggers.

That isn't a safe assumption at all. It depends on the shelter. I worked in two different municipal shelters for about 3 years total. During the busy months aka "kitten season" I was tasked with euthanizing enough healthy tame kittens to fill a 45 gallon trash can, a couple of times each week. This was simply to make room for the kittens coming in each day, at the end of a long euthanasia day you would think we would have a couple empty cages, but no, there were never any empty cages. Frequently I would have to get the euthanasia drugs back out at closing time and stay late to make room for the last drop offs of the day.

Some might read the above and think it sounds cold blooded but it happens every day in every public shelter because of fucking fuckers who don't get their pets spayed and neutered.
There aren't enough homes for them all. OP, if you don't get them all fixed, or force adoptive owners to do so, you will be contributing to this problem.
Private no kill shelters exist, I'm on the BOD for one in my area. Some have intake fees, some don't. You're in a somewhat favorable position as "kitten season" hasn't yet reached full swing. It gets really bad around May and continues through autumn.
You can have an adoption contract that requires the new owner gets it done in X number of days. Feel free to include wording to the effect that if they fail to do so, MrColin will come to their house and damage the owners face. Alternatively, you can require them to pay up front, an amount that will cover the spay/neuter and they can pick up from the vet when they are ready.
Depending who you ask, one fertile female cat and its offspring can produce between 400 and 400,000 cats over seven years. I imagine in Brooklyn most of them would be squished in the road and/or eaten by sewer rats as kittens.

That girl and one of her kittens is a tortoiseshell, they are always pregnant in my experience. They are like the chubby redheads that get pregnant while on the pill and using condoms, extremely fertile.
 

CZroe

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That isn't a safe assumption at all. It depends on the shelter. I worked in two different municipal shelters for about 3 years total. During the busy months aka "kitten season" I was tasked with euthanizing enough healthy tame kittens to fill a 45 gallon trash can, a couple of times each week. This was simply to make room for the kittens coming in each day, at the end of a long euthanasia day you would think we would have a couple empty cages, but no, there were never any empty cages. Frequently I would have to get the euthanasia drugs back out at closing time and stay late to make room for the last drop offs of the day.

Some might read the above and think it sounds cold blooded but it happens every day in every public shelter because of fucking fuckers who don't get their pets spayed and neutered.
There aren't enough homes for them all. OP, if you don't get them all fixed, or force adoptive owners to do so, you will be contributing to this problem.
Private no kill shelters exist, I'm on the BOD for one in my area. Some have intake fees, some don't. You're in a somewhat favorable position as "kitten season" hasn't yet reached full swing. It gets really bad around May and continues through autumn.
You can have an adoption contract that requires the new owner gets it done in X number of days. Feel free to include wording to the effect that if they fail to do so, MrColin will come to their house and damage the owners face. Alternatively, you can require them to pay up front, an amount that will cover the spay/neuter and they can pick up from the vet when they are ready.
Depending who you ask, one fertile female cat and its offspring can produce between 400 and 400,000 cats over seven years. I imagine in Brooklyn most of them would be squished in the road and/or eaten by sewer rats as kittens.

That girl and one of her kittens is a tortoiseshell, they are always pregnant in my experience. They are like the chubby redheads that get pregnant while on the pill and using condoms, extremely fertile.
The thing is, those concerns are supposed to motivate people to get their pets spayed and neutered and support shelters (donate money or adopt), but people are using those concerns to justify doing the opposite. You may have the best of intentions, but it's still scaremongering people away from the right choice. If you avoid sending them to shelters and risk perpetuating the problem, you are ignoring the very reason they exist and making things worse. They need resources AND cooperation.

I love my 2010 rescue pet from the Rancho Coastal Humane Society (Encinitas, CA) and plan to send another donation when I can afford to.

When it come to space, triage logic dictates that you keep the most adoptable cats, so kittens are still relatively safe at all but the most crowded shelters.
 
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randomrogue

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Lets say the female is fertile at 5-8 months, lives to be 10 years old, and has 5 kittens per litter. With a 63 day pregnancy and 7 weeks to wean you can pretty much figure on an average of 3 litters per year.

If you let this go and each female kitten has kittens the numbers add up really fast.
 

MrSquished

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The right thing is not to waste time and risk not getting good owners while they are still easily adoptable and/or give these kittens to people who may not get them fixed.

As we discussed, healthy tame kittens rarely end up euthanized. Despite the pictures in the article you link to, the risk is so low that it would be irresponsible to not do so in fear of that happening.

It's almost like telling people not to vaccinate their children because some perfectly healthy kids have adverse reactions to it.

I'm seriously wondering about the voices in your head.

Absolutely nothing in my post said not to get the kittens fixed, or not to take them to any shelter, or not to try to get them good homes. Some shelters are truly no kill and many are not. Do a little research first is what I implied.

I think you need to up the meds.
 

jaqie

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omgomgomg I wish I lived closer, I would so love to have the tortiseshell or one of the calicos!

socute! thank you for posting pics!
 
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