So whats next for Nvidia???

nitro28

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I like many, many, many people am anxiously awaiting some geforce 6800gt pci-e cards for the retail or better price. I'm just wondering if anyone has heard when nvidia is going to release a replacement for the 6800 series. I hate it when I buy a card and 2 months later it is blown away by a newer model. Oh well, so is computing!
 

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I'm thinking a 6800 Ultra in a PCI-e flavor. But other than that, not much.
 

Schadenfroh

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my guess is that they will move to longer development cycles now that they have SLI to compensate for highend and sales of those cards will go up as prices come down as the cost to manufacture falls, they will probably milk the 6x00 line for a while and maybe release a refresh that will probably be little more than a higherclocked version of the 6800 ultra. They have been spending a good bit of time working on the GPU for the PS3 so that takes some man power, but i would imagine some of the stuff developed there will make it to the PC in the form of NV50.

that is my prediction
 
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In truth, I think they might be waiting for ATi this time around. If the rumors about R5xx are to be believed, then nVidia will have their hands full trying to compete with it.

I think they might finally be learning their lesson and are letting ATi go first this next time, seeing how they went first in the past and it seemed to not turn out so great for them.

Yeah, I too believe they are going to use SLI to extend the product cycle. I think this is a very good thing, just so long as prices don't keep going up and up.
 

nitro28

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So how long do you think before ati releases an SLI card? Not a paper release, but actual products on the shelves. What was the time period between the 5x00 series and the release of the 6x00 series?
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: nitro28
So how long do you think before ati releases an SLI card? Not a paper release, but actual products on the shelves. What was the time period between the 5x00 series and the release of the 6x00 series?

never, they dont own SLI, but they do own MAXX, remember the Rage Fury Maxx? ATI already has a multichip solution but im not sure if it can be brought over to the radeons. THey will probably end up doing something along the lines of what alienware is doing, but again that is just my guess.
 

n7

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I'm sure Nvidia will paper-launch a new card later this spring or summer, & we might be able to buy it by 2006.

That's my guess
 

Lord Athlon

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What's next for nVidia ?

Easy

They sit on their asses and make millions with the PS3 graphic chipset :evil:
 

gusk1200

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Originally posted by: Lord Athlon
What's next for nVidia ?

Easy

They sit on their asses and make millions with the PS3 graphic chipset :evil:

Wait, so you're saying that NVidia are making the video chipset for Playstation 3?

Boy, this will get interesting considering Microsoft chose ATI for the Xbox:NeXt.
 

Lord Athlon

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Originally posted by: gusk1200
Originally posted by: Lord Athlon
What's next for nVidia ?

Easy

They sit on their asses and make millions with the PS3 graphic chipset :evil:

Wait, so you're saying that NVidia are making the video chipset for Playstation 3?

Boy, this will get interesting considering Microsoft chose ATI for the Xbox:NeXt.

Yep

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/m...ay/20041228125957.html

There was a big thread here about it if i rememb er right so you just have to search for it if you are interested


 

sfgtwsac

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Nvidia's next move will probably focus on "multimedia" chips that compete with All-in-Wonders and other stand-alone cards. After all, HTPC's are starting to get broader attention, and if Nvidia can bring out a strong HDTV product, with a related controller chipset that, for example, might provide hardware-based DRM. It's possible that they could take lead in providing the silicon to OEMs.
 

Drayvn

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nVidias chip is the NV48, everyone thought it was discontinues but in fact they only switched manufacturers, and they are planning it to be manufactured at the TMSC factory rather than the IBM factory.
 
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Originally posted by: Lord Athlon
What's next for nVidia ?

Easy

They sit on their asses and make millions with the PS3 graphic chipset :evil:


aint that true,

ps 1 sold like it was going out of fashion, ps2 sold like theres no tomorow....ps 3 will jus be the same, they have a cash cow for the next 4-5 years (after ps 3 release)
 

Kalessian

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What I want to know is when the damned 6800GT will drop in price. They've had almost a year to make it and it still is at $400. I can afford it but I won't spend $400 on a GPU that is already old.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Kalessian
What I want to know is when the damned 6800GT will drop in price. They've had almost a year to make it and it still is at $400. I can afford it but I won't spend $400 on a GPU that is already old.

IF the price drops at all, it will be because new cards will come out (but thats not guarentee), or, and more likely, TSMC starts to manufacture 6800GT's using 110nm process. More yield per wafer means less cost per chip for manufacturer and less cost for us end users. But I am not certain nvidia will just stop making the 6800GT or not. Maybe a 6850GT? Who knows.

The only thing you can do for now is prowl around for hot deals and sales or specials and get maybe 50 bucks under MSRP if your lucky.

I am actually leaning toward the X800XL. But only if it comes in at least 50.00 lower than the cheapest 6800GT. This looks to be a very promising card at the price point of 300.00. But I don't think we will ever see one available for that price point. I'm guessing anywhere from 350 to 400 for it. I'd like to get my hands on one just for kicks though.

 

Creig

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Seems rather suspicion that neither ATI NOR Nvidia can seem to get their cards out in great enough numbers to drive prices down. Almost like the Infineon price fixing scandal except this time it's "production" fixing. Keep production numbers low enough and prices will remain artifically high.
 
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Nothing. To exceed modern graphics cards, you'd need hair dryer cooling and a dedicated PSU. Both NVidia and ATI have hit some physical limits (mostly heat) on vid card speed, so we'll be seeing, I'm guessing, multi GPU cards as the next big thing. So in a few years it will be SLI PCI-E with dual GPU cores.
 

CaiNaM

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Originally posted by: Kalessian
What I want to know is when the damned 6800GT will drop in price. They've had almost a year to make it and it still is at $400. I can afford it but I won't spend $400 on a GPU that is already old.

the card was "announced (ie paper launch) " in april and didn't really make it to market until june. that's nowhere near a year, and it certainly isn't "old"; it's still current generation.
 

gusk1200

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I think there were some concerns that a whole new era of graphics cards would need to be made for Doom 3, and other games using that engine. But it seems to me now with the way the drivers are being written, and the capacity of the current GPU/RAM over PCIE or SLI, that we are probably seeing an alignment of video processability versus the industry graphics technology. Doom 3 was and still is the benchmark for graphics technology. Now its the consumers that are trying to catch up to be at their level. Just when everyone is about to get there, that's when they'll release the new hardware. By then, it could be a couple of years before another game hits a milestone in technology like Doom 3 did.
 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: gusk1200
I think there were some concerns that a whole new era of graphics cards would need to be made for Doom 3, and other games using that engine. But it seems to me now with the way the drivers are being written, and the capacity of the current GPU/RAM over PCIE or SLI, that we are probably seeing an alignment of video processability versus the industry graphics technology. Doom 3 was and still is the benchmark for graphics technology. Now its the consumers that are trying to catch up to be at their level. Just when everyone is about to get there, that's when they'll release the new hardware. By then, it could be a couple of years before another game hits a milestone in technology like Doom 3 did.

I think HL2 is more the standard than Doom3.. at least you can see stuff in HL2.
 

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how much do you want to bet that nVidia's PS3 GPU uses a Unified Shader Architecture, i.e. it is damn nigh identical to its DX10 GPU for the PC?

i'm pretty sure that ATI will do the same with the Xbox2 which will make the next console rumble a funny spectacle as both their hardware will have the same specifications and be of comparable power!
 

Spike

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Originally posted by: REMF
how much do you want to bet that nVidia's PS3 GPU uses a Unified Shader Architecture, i.e. it is damn nigh identical to its DX10 GPU for the PC?

i'm pretty sure that ATI will do the same with the Xbox2 which will make the next console rumble a funny spectacle as both their hardware will have the same specifications and be of comparable power!

As far as I know, ATI is also doing the graphics for the Nintendo Revolution, though that could just be rumor. Either way, nVidia and ATI are setting themselves up for some nice profits from the console market, though not as much as IBM who is helping in the design of all THREE consoles CPU's... lol, I bet they are all grins about that arangement!

-spike
 
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