Social Security

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
11,521
0
76
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the
Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes
into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent "Trust Fund" rather than into the
General operating fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
Government program, and,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees
would never be taxed as income.

---------------------

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and
are now receiving a Social Security check every month --
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
the money we paid to the Federal government to "put
away" -- you may be interested in the following:

-------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from
the independent "Trust Fund" and put it into the
General fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
controlled House and Senate.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax
deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
"tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving
annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic
Party.

Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
even though they never paid a dime into it!

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and
violating of the original contract (FICA), the Democrats
turn around and tell you that the Republicans
want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed
citizens believe it!

/discuss
 

Darkhawk28

Diamond Member
Dec 22, 2000
6,759
0
0
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the
Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes
into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent "Trust Fund" rather than into the
General operating fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
Government program, and,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees
would never be taxed as income.

---------------------

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and
are now receiving a Social Security check every month --
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
the money we paid to the Federal government to "put
away" -- you may be interested in the following:

-------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from
the independent "Trust Fund" and put it into the
General fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
controlled House and Senate.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax
deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
"tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving
annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic
Party.

Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
even though they never paid a dime into it!

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and
violating of the original contract (FICA), the Democrats
turn around and tell you that the Republicans
want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed
citizens believe it!

/discuss

Source link?
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
11,833
1
0
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Source link?
you can look up each of those landmark decisions using Google.
Sure can.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/sschanges.asp


Stop posting your email spam forwards.

LMAO!!

I think Palehorse must have a heck of a goverment job to be able to sit around and post this worthless crap when we have soilders dying in Iraq. No wonder he supports the neoconsu so much.
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
11,521
0
76
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
LMAO!!

I think Palehorse must have a heck of a goverment job to be able to sit around and post this worthless crap when we have soilders dying in Iraq. No wonder he supports the neoconsu so much.

umm, you're "sitting around posting this crap" too, so what's your excuse?
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
11,833
1
0
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
LMAO!!

I think Palehorse must have a heck of a goverment job to be able to sit around and post this worthless crap when we have soilders dying in Iraq. No wonder he supports the neoconsu so much.

umm, you're "sitting around posting this crap" too, so what's your excuse?

I'm a self-employed farmer. I work from March until November and then get the winters off. When I'm busy, I work 16 hour days/7 days a week.

And you?
 

Uhtrinity

Platinum Member
Dec 21, 2003
2,263
202
106
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Source link?
you can look up each of those landmark decisions using Google.
Sure can.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/sschanges.asp


Stop posting your email spam forwards.


For someone who is 'so well read' (from his draft thread) you would think that he would have checked his sources. He posts this crap and expects us to believe everything he says? Any credibility the op had is lost (I gave him the benefit of the doubt, my bad). And as a sidenote, to think he is going into Military Intelligence is just scary, assuming that isn't a lie.

Like I said I served with a guy who sounds like you. He bounced back and forth between E1 and E4 so many times it was ridiculous, but you if you got him into a club off post, all of a sudden he was the greatest war hero known to mankind. Really sad actually.
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Wonder when palehorse will change the topic title to "I Like To Post Email Spam"?
 

Uhtrinity

Platinum Member
Dec 21, 2003
2,263
202
106
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
LMAO!!

I think Palehorse must have a heck of a goverment job to be able to sit around and post this worthless crap when we have soilders dying in Iraq. No wonder he supports the neoconsu so much.

umm, you're "sitting around posting this crap" too, so what's your excuse?



My excuse is that I am sitting home working part time collecting SS survivors(at least for a few more months until my son is preschool age). My son of course collects until he is 18 (makes a nice college fund). So I do take posts like this a little more serious than most.

Also, just heard a statistic today that said only something like 15% of current workers have a pension, compared to 75% in the 70's. 401k's don't cut it, at most they supplement. Most Americans will be relying on SS when they reach retirement. The solution, remove SS from the general fund ....
 

Todd33

Diamond Member
Oct 16, 2003
7,842
2
81

Please don't post right wing mass e-mails and then put /discuss. You aqre quickly becoming a troll.
 

zendari

Banned
May 27, 2005
6,558
0
0
Well you need to get votes somehow, what better way to do that than to bribe people with their own money?
 

conjur

No Lifer
Jun 7, 2001
58,686
3
0
Leave it to zendari to make a fool of himself, again.


Try reading the thread next time, kiddo.
 

Uhtrinity

Platinum Member
Dec 21, 2003
2,263
202
106
Originally posted by: zendari
Well you need to get votes somehow, what better way to do that than to bribe people with their own money?



I sure hope you never have to take off your rosey glasses and face reality. No matter how much you plan for your future one major thing can happen in your life and completely knock you off your feet, then where do you go and what do you do? Hopefully you will eventually mature and realize what the word civilized society means.

edit: Guess it doesn't apply if you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth.
 

zendari

Banned
May 27, 2005
6,558
0
0
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: zendari
Well you need to get votes somehow, what better way to do that than to bribe people with their own money?
I sure hope you never have to take off your rosey glasses and face reality. No matter how much you plan for your future one major thing can happen in your life and completely knock you off your feet, then where do you go and what do you do? Hopefully you will eventually mature and realize what the word civilized society means.
I guess I could be a liberal and steal from hard working citizens.
 

Uhtrinity

Platinum Member
Dec 21, 2003
2,263
202
106
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: zendari
Well you need to get votes somehow, what better way to do that than to bribe people with their own money?
I sure hope you never have to take off your rosey glasses and face reality. No matter how much you plan for your future one major thing can happen in your life and completely knock you off your feet, then where do you go and what do you do? Hopefully you will eventually mature and realize what the word civilized society means.
I guess I could be a liberal and steal from hard working citizens.



I'll bet Ive contributed much more in my 18 years of working (since I was 18) than you have in your 18 years of being alive. Troll on ..
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
13,816
1,126
126
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Franklin Roosevelt, a Democrat, introduced the
Social Security (FICA) Program. He promised:

1.) That participation in the Program would be
completely voluntary,

2.) That the participants would only have to pay
1% of the first $1,400 of their annual incomes
into the Program,

3.) That the money the participants elected to put
into the Program would be deductible from
their income for tax purposes each year,

4.) That the money the participants put into the
independent "Trust Fund" rather than into the
General operating fund, and therefore, would
only be used to fund the Social Security
Retirement Program, and no other
Government program, and,

5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees
would never be taxed as income.

---------------------

Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and
are now receiving a Social Security check every month --
and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of
the money we paid to the Federal government to "put
away" -- you may be interested in the following:

-------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party took Social Security from
the independent "Trust Fund" and put it into the
General fund so that Congress could spend it?

A: It was Lyndon Johnson and the democratically
controlled House and Senate.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax
deduction for Social Security (FICA) withholding?

A: The Democratic Party.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party started taxing Social
Security annuities?

A: The Democratic Party, with Al Gore casting the
"tie-breaking" deciding vote as President of the
Senate, while he was Vice President of the US.

-------------------------------------------------------------------

Q: Which Political Party decided to start giving
annuity payments to immigrants?

AND MY FAVORITE:

A: That's right! Jimmy Carter and the Democratic
Party.

Immigrants moved into this country, and at age 65,
began to receive Social Security payments! The
Democratic Party gave these payments to them,
even though they never paid a dime into it!

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Then, after doing all this lying and thieving and
violating of the original contract (FICA), the Democrats
turn around and tell you that the Republicans
want to take your Social Security away!

And the worst part about it is uninformed
citizens believe it!

/discuss

Ban this troll. /thread
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
13,816
1,126
126
Originally posted by: zendari
I guess I could be a liberal and steal from hard working citizens.

Nah, you are perfect being a neocon and that is how we like you. A clueless, warmongering, blame everyone else for his problems, loser.
 

zendari

Banned
May 27, 2005
6,558
0
0
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: zendari
I guess I could be a liberal and steal from hard working citizens.
I'll bet Ive contributed much more in my 18 years of working (since I was 18) than you have in your 18 years of being alive. Troll on ..

Then I guess you dont want unproductive individuals taking your tax dollars.
 

HombrePequeno

Diamond Member
Mar 7, 2001
4,657
0
0
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: zendari
I guess I could be a liberal and steal from hard working citizens.
I'll bet Ive contributed much more in my 18 years of working (since I was 18) than you have in your 18 years of being alive. Troll on ..

Then I guess you dont want unproductive individuals taking your tax dollars.

I don't want failing corporations taking my tax dollars either.
 

Todd33

Diamond Member
Oct 16, 2003
7,842
2
81
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Uhtrinity
Originally posted by: zendari
Well you need to get votes somehow, what better way to do that than to bribe people with their own money?
I sure hope you never have to take off your rosey glasses and face reality. No matter how much you plan for your future one major thing can happen in your life and completely knock you off your feet, then where do you go and what do you do? Hopefully you will eventually mature and realize what the word civilized society means.
I guess I could be a liberal and steal from hard working citizens.

I pay into the system more than you by 10x most likely, that is if you pay taxes at all living with your mommy. Don't talk to me about liberals stealing from working citizens, us blue state liberals pay more in Federal taxes than we get back. You want to whine about the leeches, go bark at your white trash Bush supporters in red states.
 
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