Load of BS. Just because a company has a no bid contract doesnt mean the other companies are suddenly non-existent.
Let us know what other companies can do the work of Haliburton.
Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: zendari
What other company can do the work that Haliburton is doing in Iraq?Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: palehorse74
no Zensari, you dont get it. what these people want is their CEO to hold their hands and wrap them up in cozy little blankets. it's apparently HIS job to make sure they spend their money intelligently, and that they also plan ahead appropriately for their future. and whatever their CEO cant help them do, they want Uncle Sam to do it for them... and for everyone else too!
bah...SOFT i say... this entire country has grown SOFT! 49.9% of our nation are a bunch of Sallies who want to be coddled from birth until death.
So I suppose you are willing to have military pensions cut and privatized, veterans benefits cut and privatized. You wouldn't want Uncle Sam to do it for them, would you?
Let's cut all of the Halliburton contracts, and let them depend on the free market.
We don't know if another company can do the work that Halliburton is doing in Iraq-
BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVEN NO BID CONTRACTS.
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Genx87
I always find it sad liberals on these forums cant express their ideas without hoping for something bad to happen to the person they are conversing with.
Yeah, but what do you expect? They reek of desperation and jealousy.
You should smell it from where I'm sitting. Nothing reeks worse then the smell of GREED.
Next time you harvest your crop dont sell it for maximum profit.
Think of the starving kids out there and sell it for less than the market price.
Let me tell you something slick, when I have to hire help I pay dam good wages. More then I would have to. I think it's just good business. When I need something done, they are right there for me, Johhny-on-the-spot.
When I was a machinist, I hired all my combining done because my time was worth a premium. I had the same combiner for years and i never once tried to get him to lower his price, while all the big coporate farms negoiated better deals with him.
Not once, but TWICE, he left them high and dry when there were some big storms coming to come do my crops before the storm hit. He made good money off of me and didn't want to see me go broke.
That is fine but Greed stinks and you already admitted to knowing the smell.
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Genx87
I always find it sad liberals on these forums cant express their ideas without hoping for something bad to happen to the person they are conversing with.
Yeah, but what do you expect? They reek of desperation and jealousy.
You should smell it from where I'm sitting. Nothing reeks worse then the smell of GREED.
Next time you harvest your crop dont sell it for maximum profit.
Think of the starving kids out there and sell it for less than the market price.
Let me tell you something slick, when I have to hire help I pay dam good wages. More then I would have to. I think it's just good business. When I need something done, they are right there for me, Johhny-on-the-spot.
When I was a machinist, I hired all my combining done because my time was worth a premium. I had the same combiner for years and i never once tried to get him to lower his price, while all the big coporate farms negoiated better deals with him.
Not once, but TWICE, he left them high and dry when there were some big storms coming to come do my crops before the storm hit. He made good money off of me and didn't want to see me go broke.
That is fine but Greed stinks and you already admitted to knowing the smell.
Meaning what? In your head someplace I know you think you made a point, but I guess I missed it. I do my best to sell my crop at the highest price I can get for it. So?? Does it follow that I'm GREEDY and don't pay a good wages to people who I might hire?
No it doesn't and I cited an example. Time to take a chill pill, dude.
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: zendari
What other company can do the work that Haliburton is doing in Iraq?Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: palehorse74
no Zensari, you dont get it. what these people want is their CEO to hold their hands and wrap them up in cozy little blankets. it's apparently HIS job to make sure they spend their money intelligently, and that they also plan ahead appropriately for their future. and whatever their CEO cant help them do, they want Uncle Sam to do it for them... and for everyone else too!
bah...SOFT i say... this entire country has grown SOFT! 49.9% of our nation are a bunch of Sallies who want to be coddled from birth until death.
So I suppose you are willing to have military pensions cut and privatized, veterans benefits cut and privatized. You wouldn't want Uncle Sam to do it for them, would you?
Let's cut all of the Halliburton contracts, and let them depend on the free market.
We don't know if another company can do the work that Halliburton is doing in Iraq-
BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVEN NO BID CONTRACTS.
Load of BS. Just because a company has a no bid contract doesnt mean the other companies are suddenly non-existent.
Let us know what other companies can do the work of Haliburton.
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Meaning what? In your head someplace I know you think you made a point, but I guess I missed it. I do my best to sell my crop at the highest price I can get for it. So?? Does it follow that I'm GREEDY and don't pay a good wages to people who I might hire?
No it doesn't and I cited an example. Time to take a chill pill, dude.
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: Genx87
I always find it sad liberals on these forums cant express their ideas without hoping for something bad to happen to the person they are conversing with.
Yeah, but what do you expect? They reek of desperation and jealousy.
You should smell it from where I'm sitting. Nothing reeks worse then the smell of GREED.
Next time you harvest your crop dont sell it for maximum profit.
Think of the starving kids out there and sell it for less than the market price.
Let me tell you something slick, when I have to hire help I pay dam good wages. More then I would have to. I think it's just good business. When I need something done, they are right there for me, Johhny-on-the-spot.
When I was a machinist, I hired all my combining done because my time was worth a premium. I had the same combiner for years and i never once tried to get him to lower his price, while all the big coporate farms negoiated better deals with him.
Not once, but TWICE, he left them high and dry when there were some big storms coming to come do my crops before the storm hit. He made good money off of me and didn't want to see me go broke.
That is fine but Greed stinks and you already admitted to knowing the smell.
Meaning what? In your head someplace I know you think you made a point, but I guess I missed it. I do my best to sell my crop at the highest price I can get for it. So?? Does it follow that I'm GREEDY and don't pay a good wages to people who I might hire?
No it doesn't and I cited an example. Time to take a chill pill, dude.
Those starving kids, how dare you sell for the highest price possible. Totally greedy CEO you are!!
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: zendari
What other company can do the work that Haliburton is doing in Iraq?Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: palehorse74
no Zensari, you dont get it. what these people want is their CEO to hold their hands and wrap them up in cozy little blankets. it's apparently HIS job to make sure they spend their money intelligently, and that they also plan ahead appropriately for their future. and whatever their CEO cant help them do, they want Uncle Sam to do it for them... and for everyone else too!
bah...SOFT i say... this entire country has grown SOFT! 49.9% of our nation are a bunch of Sallies who want to be coddled from birth until death.
So I suppose you are willing to have military pensions cut and privatized, veterans benefits cut and privatized. You wouldn't want Uncle Sam to do it for them, would you?
Let's cut all of the Halliburton contracts, and let them depend on the free market.
We don't know if another company can do the work that Halliburton is doing in Iraq-
BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVEN NO BID CONTRACTS.
Load of BS. Just because a company has a no bid contract doesnt mean the other companies are suddenly non-existent.
Let us know what other companies can do the work of Haliburton.
Boy, we're way OT here, but why couldn't the contracts have been reduced in size and scope to give other corporations a chance to compete for them.
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: zendari
What other company can do the work that Haliburton is doing in Iraq?Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: palehorse74
no Zensari, you dont get it. what these people want is their CEO to hold their hands and wrap them up in cozy little blankets. it's apparently HIS job to make sure they spend their money intelligently, and that they also plan ahead appropriately for their future. and whatever their CEO cant help them do, they want Uncle Sam to do it for them... and for everyone else too!
bah...SOFT i say... this entire country has grown SOFT! 49.9% of our nation are a bunch of Sallies who want to be coddled from birth until death.
So I suppose you are willing to have military pensions cut and privatized, veterans benefits cut and privatized. You wouldn't want Uncle Sam to do it for them, would you?
Let's cut all of the Halliburton contracts, and let them depend on the free market.
We don't know if another company can do the work that Halliburton is doing in Iraq-
BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVEN NO BID CONTRACTS.
Load of BS. Just because a company has a no bid contract doesnt mean the other companies are suddenly non-existent.
Let us know what other companies can do the work of Haliburton.
Boy, we're way OT here, but why couldn't the contracts have been reduced in size and scope to give other corporations a chance to compete for them.
Still waiting on what other companies can do these jobs.
The no-bid contract was the brainchild of Clinton. Haliburton did such a fine job in the Balkans they were awarded a no-bid contract again in 01.
In a way it isnt a bad idea, when you need something yesterday you arent stuck in a drawn out negotiating phase where the company has the govt by the ballz and not vice versa.
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: zendari
What other company can do the work that Haliburton is doing in Iraq?Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: palehorse74
no Zensari, you dont get it. what these people want is their CEO to hold their hands and wrap them up in cozy little blankets. it's apparently HIS job to make sure they spend their money intelligently, and that they also plan ahead appropriately for their future. and whatever their CEO cant help them do, they want Uncle Sam to do it for them... and for everyone else too!
bah...SOFT i say... this entire country has grown SOFT! 49.9% of our nation are a bunch of Sallies who want to be coddled from birth until death.
So I suppose you are willing to have military pensions cut and privatized, veterans benefits cut and privatized. You wouldn't want Uncle Sam to do it for them, would you?
Let's cut all of the Halliburton contracts, and let them depend on the free market.
We don't know if another company can do the work that Halliburton is doing in Iraq-
BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVEN NO BID CONTRACTS.
Load of BS. Just because a company has a no bid contract doesnt mean the other companies are suddenly non-existent.
Let us know what other companies can do the work of Haliburton.
Boy, we're way OT here, but why couldn't the contracts have been reduced in size and scope to give other corporations a chance to compete for them.
Still waiting on what other companies can do these jobs.
The no-bid contract was the brainchild of Clinton. Haliburton did such a fine job in the Balkans they were awarded a no-bid contract again in 01.
In a way it isnt a bad idea, when you need something yesterday you arent stuck in a drawn out negotiating phase where the company has the govt by the ballz and not vice versa.
So now it's 06. I guess no one but Haliburton can do the job and now they can dictate their price to us.
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Meaning what? In your head someplace I know you think you made a point, but I guess I missed it. I do my best to sell my crop at the highest price I can get for it. So?? Does it follow that I'm GREEDY and don't pay a good wages to people who I might hire?
No it doesn't and I cited an example. Time to take a chill pill, dude.
And employers buy thier products for the lowest price possible.
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Meaning what? In your head someplace I know you think you made a point, but I guess I missed it. I do my best to sell my crop at the highest price I can get for it. So?? Does it follow that I'm GREEDY and don't pay a good wages to people who I might hire?
No it doesn't and I cited an example. Time to take a chill pill, dude.
And employers buy thier products for the lowest price possible.
Products, by definition is what the employer produces. I guess you are trying to say they purchase their inputs as cheap as possible. They also lie, cheat, and even steal, and everything else they can think of, all in the name of the Almighty Dollar.
Originally posted by: conjur
Sure can.Originally posted by: palehorse74
you can look up each of those landmark decisions using Google.Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Source link?
http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/sschanges.asp
Stop posting your email spam forwards.
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Meaning what? In your head someplace I know you think you made a point, but I guess I missed it. I do my best to sell my crop at the highest price I can get for it. So?? Does it follow that I'm GREEDY and don't pay a good wages to people who I might hire?
No it doesn't and I cited an example. Time to take a chill pill, dude.
And employers buy thier products for the lowest price possible.
Products, by definition is what the employer produces. I guess you are trying to say they purchase their inputs as cheap as possible. They also lie, cheat, and even steal, and everything else they can think of, all in the name of the Almighty Dollar.
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
LMAO!!
I think Palehorse must have a heck of a goverment job to be able to sit around and post this worthless crap when we have soilders dying in Iraq. No wonder he supports the neoconsu so much.
umm, you're "sitting around posting this crap" too, so what's your excuse?
Originally posted by: sandorski
Inbox = Word of God! Everyone knows that.
Originally posted by: palehorse74
woot! time for them to start calling us names again! I love this part! pure comedy gold...
GG!
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Meaning what? In your head someplace I know you think you made a point, but I guess I missed it. I do my best to sell my crop at the highest price I can get for it. So?? Does it follow that I'm GREEDY and don't pay a good wages to people who I might hire?
No it doesn't and I cited an example. Time to take a chill pill, dude.
And employers buy thier products for the lowest price possible.
Products, by definition is what the employer produces. I guess you are trying to say they purchase their inputs as cheap as possible. They also lie, cheat, and even steal, and everything else they can think of, all in the name of the Almighty Dollar.
And criminal behavior results in punishment under federal law. Merely paying low wages isn't lying, cheating, or stealing.
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: zendari
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Meaning what? In your head someplace I know you think you made a point, but I guess I missed it. I do my best to sell my crop at the highest price I can get for it. So?? Does it follow that I'm GREEDY and don't pay a good wages to people who I might hire?
No it doesn't and I cited an example. Time to take a chill pill, dude.
And employers buy thier products for the lowest price possible.
Products, by definition is what the employer produces. I guess you are trying to say they purchase their inputs as cheap as possible. They also lie, cheat, and even steal, and everything else they can think of, all in the name of the Almighty Dollar.
Labor markets product is human labor.
btw normal everyday humans lie, cheat, and even steal in the name of money, drugs, sex, or fun.
Should be demonize the entire human race now?
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: zendari
What other company can do the work that Haliburton is doing in Iraq?Originally posted by: marincounty
Originally posted by: palehorse74
no Zensari, you dont get it. what these people want is their CEO to hold their hands and wrap them up in cozy little blankets. it's apparently HIS job to make sure they spend their money intelligently, and that they also plan ahead appropriately for their future. and whatever their CEO cant help them do, they want Uncle Sam to do it for them... and for everyone else too!
bah...SOFT i say... this entire country has grown SOFT! 49.9% of our nation are a bunch of Sallies who want to be coddled from birth until death.
So I suppose you are willing to have military pensions cut and privatized, veterans benefits cut and privatized. You wouldn't want Uncle Sam to do it for them, would you?
Let's cut all of the Halliburton contracts, and let them depend on the free market.
We don't know if another company can do the work that Halliburton is doing in Iraq-
BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVEN NO BID CONTRACTS.
Load of BS. Just because a company has a no bid contract doesnt mean the other companies are suddenly non-existent.
Let us know what other companies can do the work of Haliburton.
What does this line of thinking have to do with what the discussion was? NOTHING.Originally posted by: zendari
The price of a car is higher because the market will demand cars at a higher price. No single employer or store can artificially set the price of gum, or cars, or labor, in the competitive market.Originally posted by: conjur
Because we all know it takes the same skilled labor to design and assemble a car as it does a pack of gum.Originally posted by: zendari
Why do you pay $20000 for a car and $.30 for a pack of gum? Various goods and services have various prices.Originally posted by: conjur
Too bad many employees aren't getting that, though. Why should a company pay more than minimum wage if they don't have to? That whole "profit maximization" thing.Originally posted by: zendari
And companies owe the employee nothing other than the market value of their good day's work.
Why should they offer healthcare benefits? Again, that whole "profit maximization" thing.
An economy that tailors to the corporation and the executives that run them and treating the employees like Bantha fodder is one doomed to fail.
Originally posted by: marincounty
WASHINGTON - Iraq needed fuel. Halliburton Co. was ordered to get it there â?? quick. So the Houston-based contractor charged the Pentagon $27.5 million to ship $82,100 worth of cooking and heating fuel.
In the latest revelation about the company's oft-criticized performance in Iraq, a Pentagon audit report disclosed Monday showed Halliburton subsidiary KBR spent $82,100 to buy liquefied petroleum gas, better-known as LPG, in Kuwait and then 335 times that number to transport the fuel into violence-ridden Iraq.
Pentagon auditors combing through the company's books were mystified by this charge.
"It is illogical that it would cost $27,514,833 to deliver $82,100 in LPG fuel," officials from the Defense Contract Audit Agency noted in the report.
http://www.poormojo.org/pmjadaily/archives/002709.html
You're right, I don't think there is another company that can do the job Halliburton is doing-ripping off the American taxpayer.
Originally posted by: conjur
What does this line of thinking have to do with what the discussion was? NOTHING.Originally posted by: zendari
The price of a car is higher because the market will demand cars at a higher price. No single employer or store can artificially set the price of gum, or cars, or labor, in the competitive market.Originally posted by: conjur
Because we all know it takes the same skilled labor to design and assemble a car as it does a pack of gum.Originally posted by: zendari
Why do you pay $20000 for a car and $.30 for a pack of gum? Various goods and services have various prices.Originally posted by: conjur
Too bad many employees aren't getting that, though. Why should a company pay more than minimum wage if they don't have to? That whole "profit maximization" thing.Originally posted by: zendari
And companies owe the employee nothing other than the market value of their good day's work.
Why should they offer healthcare benefits? Again, that whole "profit maximization" thing.
An economy that tailors to the corporation and the executives that run them and treating the employees like Bantha fodder is one doomed to fail.
With your stellar credentials in sociology and economics, you should've easily made it into Stern or Wharton. :roll:Originally posted by: zendari
No, quite a bit. Employers cannot simply lower wages to the minimum in the interests of profit maximization, therefore, the bolded post is null and void.
The minimum wage itself is a foolish idea. When the minimum wage is $10, what happens to those workers who merit only $6 an hour?
Uhh...migrant farm workers? You think companies are paying them living wages? HA!Originally posted by: zendari
No, quite a bit. Employers cannot simply lower wages to the minimum in the interests of profit maximization, therefore, the bolded post is null and void.
Nobody merits $6/hr in this country in the 21st century. Nobody.The minimum wage itself is a foolish idea. When the minimum wage is $10, what happens to those workers who merit only $6 an hour?