Someone please explain "Nguyen"

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DVK916

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Originally posted by: JinLien

Most common Vietnamese surnames are borrowed from the Chinese.

Nyg is a common Chinese sound (also is a last name) that are in use in parts of Asia.

Nguyen is pronounce exactly the way it is spell as 99.99% of the Vietnamese words, however the South, parts of the North, and Central Vietnam bastardized it because they are too lazy to pronounce it correctly as it is intended.

Vietnamese are so lazy that they drop characters or part of a word so they can talk quicker such as, Cali for California, or pound as pow (it is too much work to pronounce the d at the end).

South Vietnamese pronounce tr as g, and v as d.

PS. Most educated Vietnamese do not speak with the speech impediment that plagues the common population.


It is just a dialetical difference. It isn't incorrect. Also we don't say tr as g we say it sort of like ch but different.

The north say tr and ch the same, while the south differentiate them. Same was x and s.

Also "uye" is a single syllable sound. Vietnamese is monosylabic language.


Also interesting fact. The word Viet Nam come from the chinese words Nan Yeu, Nan was changed to Nam and Yeu was Changed to Viet. It originally ment South Yeu.
 

jspeicher

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I don't think the original question has been answered yet.

And 2nd, why do so many of the vietnamese at work have this name'?
 

jonessoda

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Nguyen is just a really common name in Vietnam, like Kim or Park in the Koreas, or Smith in English-speaking areas.

As to Kim being pronounced Geem, the Hangul jamo giyeok can be pronounced either as K or G. I believe the voicing depends on where it is in a syllable. Also, in most languages, the phoneme represented by 'i' is pronounced like the 'ee' in the English 'see' or 'fee.' The sound as the 'i' in 'lit' or 'sit' is actually mostly used in Germanic languages only.

Wikipedia's entry on Nguyen
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: jonessoda
Nguyen is just a really common name in Vietnam, like Kim or Park in the Koreas, or Smith in English-speaking areas.

As to Kim being pronounced Geem, the Hangul jamo giyeok can be pronounced either as K or G. I believe the voicing depends on where it is in a syllable. Also, in most languages, the phoneme represented by 'i' is pronounced like the 'ee' in the English 'see' or 'fee.' The sound as the 'i' in 'clit' or 'sit' is actually mostly used in Germanic languages only.

 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: AgentUnknown
Originally posted by: ricochet
Originally posted by: jspeicher
every vietnamese at work has that last name, well...maybe just 10 of them....why is this?

It's because Vietnamese are incestous. Duh.


That an idiotic statement.

The name is pronounced NGUYEN and I will say and pronounce it the way I want it b/c it's my last name. Fvck off.

So do all Vietnamese have 4' wooden rods pemanently imbedded in their rectums or just you and caivoma? Is it because the US kicked your asses in that war?

:laugh:
 

JinLien

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Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: JinLien

Most common Vietnamese surnames are borrowed from the Chinese.

Nyg is a common Chinese sound (also is a last name) that are in use in parts of Asia.

Nguyen is pronounce exactly the way it is spell as 99.99% of the Vietnamese words, however the South, parts of the North, and Central Vietnam bastardized it because they are too lazy to pronounce it correctly as it is intended.

Vietnamese are so lazy that they drop characters or part of a word so they can talk quicker such as, Cali for California, or pound as pow (it is too much work to pronounce the d at the end).

South Vietnamese pronounce tr as g, and v as d.

PS. Most educated Vietnamese do not speak with the speech impediment that plagues the common population.


It is just a dialetical difference. It isn't incorrect. Also we don't say tr as g we say it sort of like ch but different.

The north say tr and ch the same, while the south differentiate them. Same was x and s.

Also "uye" is a single syllable sound. Vietnamese is monosylabic language.


Also interesting fact. The word Viet Nam come from the chinese words Nan Yeu, Nan was changed to Nam and Yeu was Changed to Viet. It originally ment South Yeu.
Vietnam in Cantonese is Yueh/Yuet Nam, and Vietnam has Chinese root is because Yueh/Yuet is a Cantonese base language which greatly affected ancient Vietnamese language (modern Vietnamese is Mon Khmer base with a touch of Yuet).

PS. All of Canton and Southern Canton didn?t belong to China, and was absorbed into China colossal land mass. South Yuet is the only people that had enough courage to stand up against the Chinese Imperialistic army and gains autonomy that had fought off not only the Chinese, but including the Mongolian, French, Japanese, and recently American.

<-- Quoc Viet

Quoc = Land/Country

Viet = Vietnam

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Correction South Vietnamese pronouce r as g.
 

Ricochet

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Originally posted by: AgentUnknown
Originally posted by: ricochet
Originally posted by: jspeicher
every vietnamese at work has that last name, well...maybe just 10 of them....why is this?

It's because Vietnamese are incestous. Duh.


That an idiotic statement.

The name is pronounced NGUYEN and I will say and pronounce it the way I want it b/c it's my last name. Fvck off.

If you clueless people don't see that statement as an obvious attempt at a bad joke, I truly feel sorry for the lot of you.


 
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