Someone's stats calc is being generous...

GeoffS

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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My two machines typically put out 25k-27k of primegrid results a day... pretty steadily unless one of them gets the 3-second errors. Today & yesterday are ummm kinda special....

 

Sunny129

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Nov 14, 2000
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have you checked to see if the same thing hasn't happened to other project participants over the last day or two? that would at least confirm or rule out a recent increase in credit per task.

i was also gonna suggest that it might have been a massive credit dump, but that usually only happens either when a user lets a project continue to run on his/her host but doesn't allow completed tasks to be reported for an extended length of time (and then decides to report them all at once), or when a project server goes down for a day or more, causing a participating host to return lots of completed results all at once when the project server finally comes back online...and upon further inspection of the graph you posted, the project server clearly wasn't offline for the few days prior to your massive increase in PPD, or else you wouldn't have earned credit at all on those days.
 

Fardringle

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Oct 23, 2000
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I'm not currently running Primegrid, but I have seen similar things multiple times on other projects. Some times it's a spike down (actually getting "negative" credits for the day), other times a big spike up like yours. I'm not sure if the projects are actually adjusting the credits or if it's just a reporting error.
 

GeoffS

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I haven't looked specifically at other peoples' work... I'm pretty casual about this, not like I used to be! So I don't know if this is happening across the board or not. I'm not a hoarder & dumper... I just let the queues flush & fill as whatever rate.

I'm not sure how the database crash would affect people in a positive way... if anything I would expect that to cause a severe dip in numbers since work has basically gone up in smoke, as I understand it.

Are they maybe calculating in the "bonuses" they talk about here

http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=5141

I currently run:

PPS_LLR
Today 69,042 Last Update 3,798 Yesterday 10,673

Sierpinski / Riesel Base 5 Problem (LLR)
Today 41,808 Last Update 25,995 Yesterday 25,463

Sophie Germain Search
Today 17,761 Last Update 6,785 Yesterday 6,905


 

Sunny129

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I'm not sure how the database crash would affect people in a positive way... if anything I would expect that to cause a severe dip in numbers since work has basically gone up in smoke, as I understand it.
right - that was the 2nd credit dump scenario i mentioned above - the stats sites would show zero credit earned for those days that the project server was down, even though your host may have been crunching work for that project during that downtime. so if the project was down for X days, then as soon as it goes back online, your host would dump X days worth of completed results onto the server in a single communication, which translates to a credit dump according to all the stats sites.

that said, i think the only way such a project outage could be a negative thing for a host is if that host doesn't have enough work in the cache to last the duration of the outage. otherwise, all the credit not counted during the days of the outage ends up getting reported as a credit dump once the project goes back online...
 

GeoffS

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Actually, if I read the write up correctly, they had to restore the entire database from a many hours old backup. That is going to result in work being returned for which there is no record of it being handed out, and as such, no credit being giving for the work.... among other things. I'm not terribly concerned, but there's no way that I had as much work backlogged as I'm getting credit for.

Also... looking at the BOINC client, all of this extra credit is coming from one machine, not evenly spread out over the two machines. I'm going to have to check that machine tonight and see if it's doing something funky. I bet it's chewing through those damned 3-second WU again...


right - that was the 2nd credit dump scenario i mentioned above - the stats sites would show zero credit earned for those days that the project server was down, even though your host may have been crunching work for that project during that downtime. so if the project was down for X days, then as soon as it goes back online, your host would dump X days worth of completed results onto the server in a single communication, which translates to a credit dump according to all the stats sites.

that said, i think the only way such a project outage could be a negative thing for a host is if that host doesn't have enough work in the cache to last the duration of the outage. otherwise, all the credit not counted during the days of the outage ends up getting reported as a credit dump once the project goes back online...
 
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