son is giving up soda

[surfsatwerk]

Drink coconut water.

Tastes like some exotic tropical islander peed in it.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Problem is that you usually drink much more Gatorade than soda. A can of soda is 12 oz but a gatorade bottle is usally 20-32 oz.

Pepsi Cola and Coca-Cola Classic have 41g of sugar per 12 oz., Mountain Dew has 46g of sugar per 12 oz., Gatorade G Orange has 22g of sugar per 12 oz. of beverage and Red Bull has 40g of sugar. It is common for other soft drinks and juices to have over 40g of sugar per 12-oz. serving.

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G2 Gatorade or Powerade Zero.

 

[Deeko]

Problem is that you usually drink much more Gatorade than soda. A can of soda is 12 oz but a gatorade bottle is usally 20-32 oz.

Pepsi Cola and Coca-Cola Classic have 41g of sugar per 12 oz., Mountain Dew has 46g of sugar per 12 oz., Gatorade G Orange has 22g of sugar per 12 oz. of beverage and Red Bull has 40g of sugar. It is common for other soft drinks and juices to have over 40g of sugar per 12-oz. serving.

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When I drink soda its almost never from a can, but rather from a bottle, which clocks in at 20 oz. When I drink Gatorade its usually from one of the larger 32 oz bottles - but I also almost never finish a bottle in one sitting. Of course, that's just me.

The whole 'but you can drink more Gatorade' argument a few people have made applies to a lot of the other suggestions people have made, too. You could drink more skim milk than you could soda, too. Too much of pretty much everything is bad for you.

 

[Saint Nick]

When I drink soda its almost never from a can, but rather from a bottle, which clocks in at 20 oz. When I drink Gatorade its usually from one of the larger 32 oz bottles - but I also almost never finish a bottle in one sitting. Of course, that's just me.

The whole 'but you can drink more Gatorade' argument a few people have made applies to a lot of the other suggestions people have made, too. You could drink more skim milk than you could soda, too. Too much of pretty much everything is bad for you.

Correct, but the problem is that the common retard doesn't think about these things. They just think "It has less sugar than soda!" and proceed to drink the whole bottle.

 

[vi edit]

Why not tea?

 

[darkewaffle]

This thread is pretty retarded. Gatorade is better than soda but still not a particularly great regular drink.

 

[AnonymouseUser]

Raw milk or gtfo imo

That would be great if it wasn't illegal.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

my son just returned from getting shaving cream and announced that he's giving up soda.

he's going to start drinking gatorade instead. his reasoning is that gatorade doesn't have HFCS. He's 22, has 3 jobs, so I won't argue too much.

Is gatorade any worse for him than soda?

He's going to switch from a product containing plant derived sugar to a product with multiple artifical colors? Odd. But to each their own.

I have never understood the campaign against HFCS. Its plant derived sugar. Nothing more.

http://nutrition.about.com/od/grainsandcereals/f/fructosesyrup.htm

What's next? Are people going to argue against using mined salt in favor of sea salt?

Oh wait, that's already happened.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sea-salt/AN01142/

 

[surfsatwerk]

That would be great if it wasn't illegal.

I got this operation going, you won't believe how many balloons it takes to move a profitable amount of raw milk across the border. On the plus side if a balloon should pop I don't need to go looking for a new mule.

 

[preslove]

my son just returned from getting shaving cream and announced that he's giving up soda.

he's going to start drinking gatorade instead. his reasoning is that gatorade doesn't have HFCS. He's 22, has 3 jobs, so I won't argue too much.

Is gatorade any worse for him than soda?

HFC = Sugar.

Gatorade has just as much sugar as soda per serving + salts.

 

[Rudee]

Anybody that needs 3 jobs has a history of poor decision making. No surprise that this was one of them.

Good luck

^^^ This

 

[eits]

He's going to switch from a product containing plant derived sugar to a product with multiple artifical colors? Odd. But to each their own.

I have never understood the campaign against HFCS. Its plant derived sugar. Nothing more.

http://nutrition.about.com/od/grainsandcereals/f/fructosesyrup.htm

What's next? Are people going to argue against using mined salt in favor of sea salt?

Oh wait, that's already happened.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sea-salt/AN01142/

it's not the same as sugar. the proportions of fructose and glucose are different, although the sweeness level is the same for hfcs-55. it's less for hfcs-42, but more needs to be used to achieve the same level of sweetness, which means more glucose.

 

[Blackjack200]

Nofat milk=water>>>>Gatorade>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Steaming dog turds>>Soda

Milk is full of sugar.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Skim milk blows

milk from an animal is horrible for you, can cause cancer.

 

[surfsatwerk]

milk from an animal is horrible for you, can cause cancer.

D:

What about goats, they're more like an agent of chaos than an animal?

 

[ViviTheMage]

D:

What about goats, they're more like an agent of chaos than an animal?

cancer, cancer, cancer, see the trend?

 

[Sho'Nuff]

it's not the same as sugar. the proportions of fructose and glucose are different, although the sweeness level is the same for hfcs-55. it's less for hfcs-42, but more needs to be used to achieve the same level of sweetness, which means more glucose.

I never said that HFCS was the "same" as sugar. Just that it was plant derived, like sugar. As disaccharides of glucose and fructose, HFCS and table sugar are chemically quite similar, though as you say the ratio of G and F is different in HFCS than it is in table sugar.

My comment re: sea salt and mined salt is similar. Two products, used for the same purpose, different chemically (sea salt has more minerals), but still horrible for you if eaten in excess.

Moderation is the key, not exclusion.

FWIW, I was a chemist before I became a patent attorney.

 

[surfsatwerk]

cancer, cancer, cancer, see the trend?

So my mother gave me cancer before I even had a chance...:'(

 

[ViviTheMage]

So my mother gave me cancer before I even had a chance...:'(

It's all environmental, haha.

I was not breast fed :thumbsup::thumbsup:

no milk cancer for me.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Your son's reasoning is flawed but he could see benefit from reduction of empty calories. Personally Gatorade would be no replacement for soft drinks' caffeine, flavor, and carbonation so I'd just cut back and do other things to improve health.

Tell him to just start matching however much other drinks he consumes with equal amounts of water. Get a water bottle with one of those hooks and keep it on his belt all day and fill it up when it gets low.

one time, yeah, it is ridiculous. multiple times a day over time, though, it is actually significant.

If you're drinking 100 calories worth of sugar multiple times a day, over time its going to fuck your health pretty much regardless of what "sugar" it is, unless you compensate for it.

 

[eits]

If you're drinking 100 calories worth of sugar multiple times a day, over time its going to fuck your health pretty much regardless of what "sugar" it is, unless you compensate for it.

that's something we can both agree on. i think where our opinions may differ is in the overall difference affect between the two sweeteners, if at all, and which one may be worse.

 

[darkswordsman17]

cancer, cancer, cancer, see the trend?

The fuck do crabs have to do with this? Do crabs make milk? Are you suggesting the OP's son switch to a diet subsisting of crab urine?

 

[Red Squirrel]

I'd stick to pop just because it's cheaper and you can buy it in bulk. (ex: a case of 12 vs buying one bottle of Gatorade at a time). Just need to cut down, no need to quit. To those saying water, some people like to have a "recreational" drink sometimes. If you're thirsty, drink water, if you just want to have a drink to go with a bowl of chips or whatever, then pop. Or if eating pizza or a poutine, you need to have a pop, it just goes together!

I lost 10 pounds in a few days by going from 5+ pops a day to <2, some days none. Sugar is very fattening. You don't have to quit, you just have to slow down. This goes with anything. Life is too short to go on super strict diet. My motto is, eat drink and be merry! Just don't overdo it.

 

[jagec]

The average municipal tap water is buffered to 7-7.5pH. Obviously add some baking soda, or anything of a higher pH, and it would take far less to buffer soda.

The pH is OK, but again, it has almost no buffering ability. These are separate things. It would take a much lower volume of 1M Tris@pH 7.5 to neutralize a soda than 10 mM NaOH@pH 12.

The buffering ability of drinking water also varies dramatically between locations, despite the pH remaining fairly constant. Therefore, it's just a bad idea to draw any conclusions from drinking water titration statistics.

Interestingly enough, Gatorade has a higher mean buffering capacity than Coca-Cola.

I don't think you understand what "puss" means in this context. You tube it.

Again, mild stimulation of the immune system is not a bad thing for a healthy individual, and might even be beneficial.

You're right about the gross-out factor, of course.

 

[SirStev0]

I gave up everything except water and liquor from NYE until mid June of this year. I didn't lose a pound. Kinda pissed me off. I have stuck with it except I added beer back into the equation since I really got no benefit cutting it out.

There is some evidence that HFCS is behind the exponential increase in NASH liver disease. There is also some evidence that a half-a-dozen other things are behind it as well.
The liver and GI tract have an intrinsic regulatory system that we have barely scratched the surface of understanding. Yes Sucrose (plain old fashion sugar) is a 50-50 bond of glucose and fructose. And yes HFCS is a 50-50 mix of glucose and fructose, but I would not be in the least surprised to find out that the presentation of sucrose to the gut vs the presentation of glucose/fructose to the gut would start two different cascades of signaling in the gut neurosystem.

There is actually some argument that we should really say we have 3 different nervous systems: Central, Peripheral, and GI. We really only barely have an understanding of the layers and complexity of the Gut. Not surprising that we are barely treading water in the treatment of Diabetes.